Do You think Saskatchewan will be the next Alberta?

[Greco Roman]

Originally Posted by babo

A turd with sprinkles on it is still a turd.

This quote just made my boring office day more insightful

[Mark Bench]

Originally Posted by Mayor Quimby

No because it is true and history tells me so, also. Do some research smart ass.

Easy to see why you are so popular on the forum.

[CCF]

Originally Posted by Mark Bench

Easy to see why you are so popular on the forum. Good thing you're in that S.H. known as Regina where you belong!

Hmm, I was not aware that it was known as that.

[Mark Bench]

Originally Posted by CCF

Hmm, I was not aware that it was known as that.

You mean "Super Hub" of southern Saskatchewan? Anyway I apologise for getting carried away. MQ just seems so touchy about everything from the posts I've read.

[CCF]

Originally Posted by Mark Bench

You mean "Super Hub" of southern Saskatchewan? Anyway I apologise for getting carried away. MQ just seems so touchy about everything from the posts I've read.

Unfortunately, I don't believe that's what you meant.

[newflyer]

Better yet I can work LONG hours to pay for my housing and utilities in the free markets of Alberta.

This has to be the saddest reason for not wanting your economy to expand.

I am not sure where you get the idea in Alberta work longer hours.. but I guess it scares you to no end, or you just want to create fear so all those who might not know how backwards socialism really is won't want to see things change.

Seems like I have much more confidence in Saskatchewan business and its people than you do. I am pretty sure there are over 200,000 ex-saskatchewan pats who would love to see Saskatchewan's economy be more open to growth and investment... but I guess you'll just tell them how much longer 8 hours a day is in Alberta (this is your arguement??)

I have yet to meet anyone at Telus or Bell or MTS who works more than 8 hours a day. So scarey...

[Jonitecture]

I have heard that Saskatchewan has the most untouched Natural recources in Canada or something...is this true? i dont think Saskatchewan will ever boom to the extent Alberta has but, hopefully we shall grow into a beautiful provence that is not the butt of many jokes in Canada.

[vid]

I think Saskatchewan will be the next Saskatchewan.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by vid

I think Saskatchewan will be the next Saskatchewan.

[psych1]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

As opposed to the glory that was old Winnipeg.

[The Kid]

Originally Posted by Brokenhead

If the world stops using oil and start using hydro and windpower Maniotba will be the King (possibly northern Quebec too).

But I do hope Saskatchewan and Manitoba ecomonies continues to grow.

I don't know why people like to kid themselves about wind and hydro replacing oil.

While I do believe hydro and wind should and will play an ever increasing role, like it or not....OIL IS KING and will remain so in our lifetime.

Sask has lots of oil and should exploit it now before something does eventually replace oil.

[Jonitecture]

don't know why people like to kid themselves about wind and hydro replacing oil.

While I do believe hydro and wind should and will play an ever increasing role, like it or not....OIL IS KING and will remain so in our lifetime.

Sask has lots of oil and should exploit it now before something does eventually replace oil.

i think most people know that for now, but things like sun, wind and water need to play a more important role. but i agree, natural sources of power will not outshine oil until oil is gone

[osmo]

Originally Posted by lubicon

Sask will likely (and hopefully) continue to improve it's economy but I don't ting you will see growth like you do in Alberta. Despite it's abundant natural resources and potential there are a number of factors that will hold it back IMHO:

1. Rapidly aging population. The average age in Sask is greater than Alberta and growing older at a rapid rate. This is accelerated by the number of young people moving out (if this trend can be reduced or reversed it will help). This will put an ever increasing strain on social services (which are taxpayer funded) meaning higher and higher taxes as the proportion of population that is working shrinks and the financial burden is placed on fewer and fewer workers.

2. Relatively high First Nations population. I believe it's one of the highest per capita populations in Canada. Not to be too negative here but the unemployment rate if very high in this demographic and a lot of them are moving to the larger cities. As in example #1, they put an ever increasing strain on services while contributing very little to payig for these services.

3. The mindset of Sask just does not seem to be condusive to an Alberta style boom. It just seems that people there want to rely on the government to provide for them much more than in Alberta. There is less of an entrepeneurial spirit in Sask it seems. My in laws live there and ALL of them work for the Sask government and are quite happy to do so. One even quite a great private sector job to go work for SaskTel as she didn't like the fact that she had to work OT once in awhile.

I don't mean to paint everone in Sask with the same brush but it's how I see it in general.

i agree with evreything that you are saying.. i am not a fool to belive over infalted nubmers put out by the government..i really dont see sask having a big amazing boom like alberta the ppl arnt here to sustian it.. are population prymid is very stretch.. lots of old ppl.. and lots and lots of kids ... in 20 years when those kids grow up will the have a fluorishing economy to dive into or a over stretched economy with high taxes etc....

i just really think sask will go through a boom but it wont be sask ppl gettin the money forign investors are comming in and gettin the benifits.. like how one person said ask ppl jumped on the alberta housing boom then came back.. yea some did but more alberta ppl NOW are buying up all the homes in sask and gettin even more money in there pockets.. i am a young person im 21 and i live in regina i dont see any oppurtunitys here otehr then its cheap to go to school.. once i have my education im out .. thats hte mindset of many.. nobody plans to grow old here

it seems that sask is stuck in the same rut as atlantic canada .. tehy relied on certin industrys like fishing and manufacting .. but now are in a econmic slump.. sask is still rellying on a dead agriculture industry and i kno the future does look brite for some hybrid spin offs like ethenal and wind power and other junk calvert is saying .. like i dont understand this game plan of sitting on your oil until the price is so skyhigh u qill be swiming in money.. or until alberta runs out reither or is gonna take 20 years.. i really dont kno if we will have 700,000 ppl in 20 years

[CCF]

i am a young person im 21 and i live in regina i dont see any oppurtunitys here otehr then its cheap to go to school.. once i have my education im out .. thats hte mindset of many.. nobody plans to grow old here

Speak for yourself.

[Hawker]

Geesh osmo, you are 21 and going to school...elementary school perhaps? You may have some good ideas in your post above, but with several mispelled words in a couple sentences, I couldn't read your whole post.

[Ruckus]

Originally Posted by CCF

Speak for yourself.

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[Nathan]

Originally Posted by SASKFTW

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You can add a 3rd to that. I'll exhaust all opportunities here before I even think of moving elsewhere.

[CCF]

Also, Saskatchewan has the third highest tuition costs in the country. Not exactly cheap compared to other universities. Although it's cheap in terms of living costs.

[vid]

"nobody plans to grow old here"

Really? I think Regina would be a wonderful city to retire too. It's big and diverse, but also pretty relaxed. It also has a beautiful natural setting. What you probably meant to say is "I don't think I'll be able to find a career here", that's part of your lack of opportunity finding abilities. Calgary or not, opportunity isn't one to jump out of a closet and smack you in the face with a 50,000$/yr salary.

I would assume that Regina's university, like Lakehead, has most of it's courses built around the local economy, so that instead of training people to be successful when they leave, it trains them to be successful where they already are.

[molasses]

Originally Posted by newflyer

The hard work comment was a reference to a comment made by Delreg. I said many workers in Calgary have it pretty damn easy.

The boom and bust economy you speak of is really due to the commodity Calgary is based on. Industries like telecom are not cyclical.

Crown Corps are not even moderately as efficient as successful private business. Government run businesses are full of inefficiences from top to bottom. It really is based on many economic reasons, but the most simplistic answer is government business is not forced to compete for profit. It is also a product of politics and political staging.

This will be my last post on this issue. I am not going to attempt to further convince you of proven economic fact that private enterprise is many times more efficient than government. Or bring up how significant economies like China and other leftist governments has grown with a growth of private investment. All I'll say is Saskatchewan could be much more.

hehe, ya we really want to be like China and grow our economy, if only we started up some sweatshops and opened up the economy.....that's the thing a pro-business government is good for the economy, but as stated above a mixed economy is better for people....I like having cheap insurance rates, decent health care and somewhat of a social safety net. Countries like Sweden and Norway are always rated as having the best quality of life...most countries in Europe would be considered to be very left leaning by Alberta/U.S. standards, yet we (Canadians/Sask) always want to compare ourselves to Alberta or the U.S. instead of someplace like Sweden which has a great economy and a great quality of life. I know I save more money in Saskatoon than I would in Alberta, that seems good for me.....so I'd rather keep it that way that be able to wave around a big pay check, then immediately have to spent that on mortgage/insurance etc.