2013 US Combined Statistical Area Gross Product: Released Sep. 16, 2014

[BG918]

Originally Posted by YSL

But clearly Midland isn't the richest place when it comes to personal wealth. Same as Houston. Not a particularly wealthy but the booming industries (oil) pushes these GDP figures up.

Look at all of the energy cities and it's the same story. Denver, Tulsa, and OKC have big energy sectors in addition to behemoth Houston and Midland. Dallas and Fort Worth are also big but part of a much larger diversified economy. The percentage growth is impressive as well as oil & gas continues to boom.

[tech12]

That has me wondering....it's obviously no Houston, but how does the energy sector in the Bay Area stack up against other cities? Like everything else non-tech related it seems to often be overlooked in discussions, but it doesn't seem like a slouch, seeing as it's home to companies like Chevron, Pacific Gas & Electric, and several large oil refineries.

[atlantaguy]

Originally Posted by mhays

Don't do the "Tampa Bay" route. I was pretty old before I knew that the city was called just "Tampa."

Tampa Bay makes perfect sense for them though, as half of the metro population is across the Bay in Clearwater, St. Petersburg and their respective suburbs.

All three pro sports team use it, and the leading newspaper even changed their name from the St. Petersburg Times to the Tampa Bay Times. It works well for them.

[YSL]

Originally Posted by simms3_redux

So on that note, SJ may be absurdly high for a "large" metro at 6 figures now, and no, it doesn't include the East Bay, which would lower it, however, SF's GDP includes the East Bay and it's still #3 for "large" metros >500,000 people at $
The Bay Area is an absolute beast. The difference between it and the next guy up (Greater LA) is actually substantially less both in $ Amt and clearly by % than from Greater LA to Greater NYC.

Looking at CSAs, Houston has the highest GDP per capita in the USA.

There are only four CSAs in the US with very high GDP per capita $70,000+

Per Capita GDP per CSA ranking:

Houston 80,213
Bay Area 79 347
New York 72,670
Washington 70 339


After that..

Seattle 69 872
Denver 64 712
Boston 64,475
Mineapolis 63, 791

And just they're not in the top 10 but just for reference

Chicago 60 147
Los Angeles 54,130

.. This from using new CSA definitions from last year.

[antinimby]

Didn't Chevron moved to Houston recently?

[simms3_redux]

^^^No, corporate HQ is in San Ramon in a sprawling office campus. They have the former Enron buildings in Houston, though (so they likely have an even larger operation there). Makes sense - Houston is to oil/energy what the Bay Area is to tech.

In terms of refinery operations, I think the major presences are:

Houston (like ridiculous huge capacity)
Louisiana coast (again, ridiculously huge capacity...3,309,000 barrels a day capacity)
Rest of Texas cast (ridiculously huge capacity)

Metro Philadelphia (1,126,000 barrels a day capacity)
Los Angeles (973,000 barrels a day capacity)
Bay Area (819,000 barrels a day capacity)
Chicago Collar Counties (810,000 barrels a day capacity)
North of Seattle (618,000 barrels a day capacity)
OH from Toledo over to Cleveland (568,000 barrels a day capacity)

There are a couple states with multiple refineries that together have north of 300-400,000 barrels a day capacity, including OK and KY. There are also a few one-off large refineries in several cities:

Whiting, IN has a 405,000 barrel a day refinery, counted in Chicago's #s above
Rosemount, MN near St. Paul has a capacity of 320,000 barrels in its refinery
Linden, NJ outside of NYC has a refinery with 230,000 capacity
Elk Point, SD has a refinery with capacity of 400,000 barrels
Memphis has a refinery with capacity of 180,000 barrels


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...neries#Alabama

[Eightball]

D.C.-Area Economy Takes a Hit as Government Spending Drops

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/b...pending-drops/

[MNMike]

Minneapolis moved ahead of Detroit.

[Trae]

Originally Posted by antinimby

Didn't Chevron moved to Houston recently?

No, but they do have the old Enron towers, in addition to two other blocks downtown that will be used for additional towers. They also recently bought some land in the Katy area (west Houston suburb) for a small campus.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Leo the Dog

Not meant to be a slight to SF. It's not unheard of for teams to change names. LA Angles became Anaheim Angels and now the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

Or how about Golden State Warriors? They're not the Oakland Warriors.

Phoenix Cardinals became the Arizona Cardinals (they never played football in Phx city limits).

New England Patriots is an odd example. It's not a city or state, it's an entire region. Pretty unique.

The best example of a legacy team name not matching the history of its current market is probably the Los Angeles Lakers.

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

The best example of a legacy team name not matching the history of its current market is probably the Los Angeles Lakers.

hey, we have a few lakes in LA! lol

[dave8721]

Originally Posted by iheartthed

The best example of a legacy team name not matching the history of its current market is probably the Los Angeles Lakers.

Utah Jazz. I know I think of Utah when I think of Jazz music.

[Leo the Dog]

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan

hey, we have a few lakes in LA! lol

Do pools count?

[mhays]

Originally Posted by dave8721

Utah Jazz. I know I think of Utah when I think of Jazz music.

I don't think of music when I think of jazz.

[Trae]

Originally Posted by mhays

I don't think of music when I think of jazz.

He was being sarcastic because everyone knows Utah is the king of jazz. The Mormons invented it.

[Centropolis]

Originally Posted by simms3_redux

^^^No, corporate HQ is in San Ramon in a sprawling office campus. They have the former Enron buildings in Houston, though (so they likely have an even larger operation there). Makes sense - Houston is to oil/energy what the Bay Area is to tech.

In terms of refinery operations, I think the major presences are:

Houston (like ridiculous huge capacity)
Louisiana coast (again, ridiculously huge capacity...3,309,000 barrels a day capacity)
Rest of Texas cast (ridiculously huge capacity)

Metro Philadelphia (1,126,000 barrels a day capacity)
Los Angeles (973,000 barrels a day capacity)
Bay Area (819,000 barrels a day capacity)
Chicago Collar Counties (810,000 barrels a day capacity)
North of Seattle (618,000 barrels a day capacity)
OH from Toledo over to Cleveland (568,000 barrels a day capacity)

There are a couple states with multiple refineries that together have north of 300-400,000 barrels a day capacity, including OK and KY. There are also a few one-off large refineries in several cities:

Whiting, IN has a 405,000 barrel a day refinery, counted in Chicago's #s above
Rosemount, MN near St. Paul has a capacity of 320,000 barrels in its refinery
Linden, NJ outside of NYC has a refinery with 230,000 capacity
Elk Point, SD has a refinery with capacity of 400,000 barrels
Memphis has a refinery with capacity of 180,000 barrels


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...neries#Alabama

http://upload.wikimedia.org

St. Louis area has about the same production as St. Paul area but has expanded and is ramping up production of heavy oil from Alberta for Illinois and Missouri markets due to certain pipelines...

[Ch.G, Ch.G]

Originally Posted by Eightball

D.C.-Area Economy Takes a Hit as Government Spending Drops

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/b...pending-drops/

Yikes.

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by dave8721

Boatloads of retirees will always hold down per capita stats. They add to the population but don't produce much else. See Phoenix for the same issue.

And in Tampa's case it's literally boatloads of them cruising around in their fishing boats and yachts.