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Old Posted Apr 2, 2018, 1:44 AM
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Chicago spends woefully little on international marketing. It makes one want to pull his hair out.

It's like they just don't care. Awful, awful lack of insight. The Democratic Machine is in part to blame. We're too busy paying for all the patronage and all of those exorbitant pensions. We just need to declare bankruptcy already so that the new generation can refocus on more useful things.
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I don't think immigration has anything to do with tourist promotion, crime data, media coverage and the like. The average dude in Pakistan isn't exactly choosing where to immigrate based on the latest Huffpost article. NYC had the same rate of immigration as today thirty years ago, when murders were at a record high.

Immigration, overwhelmingly, is influenced by family and jobs, IMO.
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2018, 2:20 AM
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I don't think immigration has anything to do with tourist promotion, crime data, media coverage and the like. The average dude in Pakistan isn't exactly choosing where to immigrate based on the latest Huffpost article. NYC had the same rate of immigration as today thirty years ago, when murders were at a record high.

Immigration, overwhelmingly, is influenced by family and jobs, IMO.
I think New York is an exception, not the rule.

We also don't know how many immigrants coming though New York actually stay there. It's a port of entry, but I'm not sure about its role as the ultimate destination 2, 5, or 10 years down the road...
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Why is Chicagos immigration number so low relative to its size in metro area? It has a long history of immigration and economy is huge.
Dunno... maybe the crime rate has something to do with it?
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Dunno... maybe the crime rate has something to do with it?
But crime rates were just as high or higher decades ago when Chicago was still getting lots of immigrants.
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But crime rates were just as high or higher decades ago when Chicago was still getting lots of immigrants.
Yeah, crime was much worse when immigration was higher.
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These immigration rates will probably go down in the coming years with the changes the dump administration is making at United States Customs and Immigration Services, and all the Visa rules they are changing.
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Immigration in 2017 by MSA:
- New York MSA: + 160,842
- Miami/Fort Lauderdale MSA: + 81,824
- Los Angeles MSA: + 63,083
- Washington D.C. MSA: + 44,760
- Houston MSA: + 43,094
- Boston MSA: + 35,142
- San Francisco/Oakland MSA: + 32,568
- Dallas/Fort Worth MSA: + 30,798
- Chicago MSA: + 28,302
- Philadelphia MSA: + 23,269
- Orlando MSA: + 22,207
- Seattle MSA: + 21,394
- San Jose MSA: + 20,747
- Atlanta MSA: + 20,451
- San Diego MSA: + 15,445
- Tampa MSA: + 13,725
- Detroit MSA: + 13,214
- Minneapolis/Saint Paul MSA: + 13,107
- Phoenix MSA: + 12,070
- Baltimore MSA: + 9,050
- Austin MSA: + 8,185
- Sacramento MSA: + 7,722
- Columbus MSA: + 7,350
- Las Vegas MSA: + 7,221
- Denver MSA: + 7,034
- Riverside/San Bernardino MSA: + 6,787
- Providence MSA: + 6,381
- Portland MSA: + 6,335
- Charlotte MSA: + 6,279
- Bridgeport MSA: + 6,218
- San Antonio MSA: + 6,173
- Hartford MSA: + 5,857
- Nashville MSA: + 5,510
- Cleveland MSA: + 5,045
- Honolulu MSA: + 4,839
- Indianapolis MSA: + 4,603
- Raleigh MSA: + 4,407
- Pittsburgh MSA: + 4,359
- New Haven MSA: + 4,323
- Cincinnati MSA: + 4,285
- Jacksonville MSA: + 4,043
- Saint Louis MSA: + 4,032
- Buffalo MSA: + 3,972
- Milwaukee MSA: + 3,689
- Oklahoma City MSA: + 3,599
- Kansas City MSA: + 3,572
- Richmond MSA: + 3,540
- New Orleans MSA: + 3,521
- Virginia Beach/Norfolk MSA: + 3,505
- Rochester MSA: + 3,459
- Salt Lake City MSA: + 3,359
- Cape Coral/Fort Myers MSA: + 3,174
- El Paso MSA: + 3,110
- McAllen, TX MSA: + 2,989
- Louisville MSA: + 2,970
- Albany MSA: + 2,650
- Tucson MSA: + 2,570
- Grand Rapids MSA: + 2,233
- Omaha MSA: + 2,213
- Fresno MSA: + 2,083
- Bakersfield MSA: + 2,072
- Madison MSA: + 1,949
- Tulsa MSA: + 1,949
- Harrisburg MSA: + 1,880
- Greensboro/Winston-Salem MSA: + 1,861
- Des Moines MSA: + 1,807
- Memphis MSA: + 1,680
- Greenville, S.C. MSA: + 1,592
- Baton Rouge MSA: + 1,443
- Columbia, S.C. MSA: + 1,377
- Albuquerque MSA: + 1,194
- Birmingham MSA: + 1,103
- Little Rock MSA: + 1,054
- Boise MSA: + 947
- Knoxville MSA: + 833
- Colorado Springs MSA: + 799
- Charleston, S.C.: + 702
- Reno MSA: + 576
- Chattanooga MSA: + 516


2017 immigration stats for select Canadian CMAs:
Toronto: 86,525
Montreal: 44,615
Vancouver: 29,875
Calgary: 17,895
Edmonton: 15,925
Winnipeg: 11,835
Ottawa: 8,705
Saskatoon: 5,940
Regina: 5,300
Halifax: 3,745
Given that Australian cities got mentioned once or twice in this thread, just thought I'd add the net overseas migration stats for the year to 30 June 2017, which were released today (http://abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/...OpenDocument):

Sydney +84,684
Melbourne +79,974
Brisbane +17,998
Perth +11,653
Adelaide +9,610

Immigration is not usually as concentrated in Sydney and Melbourne as it was this year. Perth is usually the third most popular destination but there has been a big outflow of people in the last couple of years after record growth in the preceding 10 years or so.
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Given that Australian cities got mentioned once or twice in this thread, just thought I'd add the net overseas migration stats for the year to 30 June 2017, which were released today (http://abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/...OpenDocument):

Sydney +84,684
Melbourne +79,974
Brisbane +17,998
Perth +11,653
Adelaide +9,610

Immigration is not usually as concentrated in Sydney and Melbourne as it was this year. Perth is usually the third most popular destination but there has been a big outflow of people in the last couple of years after record growth in the preceding 10 years or so.
If this is "net migration" I think it can't be compared to the other cities' numbers which are total "in-migration" only.

Unless I am mistaken.
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As I read the glossary, it is net international immigration, i.e. counting both out and in.

https://www.census.gov/glossary/#ter...ionalmigration

This is apparent from the fact that a few metros on the chart have negative net international migration.

https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...xhtml?src=bkmk

Looks like of all places Lake Havasu City, AZ has the lowest net international migration at -105.
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If this is "net migration" I think it can't be compared to the other cities' numbers which are total "in-migration" only.

Unless I am mistaken.
According to this the US numbers at least are net migration
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Old Posted Apr 26, 2018, 1:49 AM
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According to this the US numbers at least are net migration
Aren't emigration rates pretty low for either country, compared to immigration rates?

How many times more foreigners want to become Americans or Australians, versus Americans or Australians wanting to move away and become residents of other countries?

Unlike immigration, emigration is never really on the radar for most "nations of immigrants", not at least the way you'd see it discussed by the average person on the street. Americans moving away en masse to other countries rather than a tiny trickle of expats (except in the case of things like Americans claiming to want to move to Canada when Trump was elected or Bush was elected etc., which is mostly talk and no action) is rarely seen as a major phenomenon.
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Maybe it's a trickle, but I know a number of people who have done it.
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