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MWRRI ARRA Applications: Minnesota

Now that mosts states have submitted their pre-apps for ARRA funding, I thought we could look into what the Midwest states are wishing for..

I wll segment postings by state to aid to further specific discussion.

Minnesota: $382 million
St. Paul Union Depot
$137 million for build a multimodal transit hub at the St. Paul Union Depot. The project includes final design work and construction

Midwest Regional Rail Initiative
$50 million for Chicago-Milwaukee-Twin Cities passenger rail corridor project, which would include environmental documentation, preliminary engineering and design work.

Northstar Phase II
$150 million for a Minneapolis to St. Cloud passenger rail service. The project includes final design and construction

Northern Lights Express
$45 million for the Northern Lights Express intercity rail line between Duluth and Minneapolis. The project includes preliminary engineering and design work.


http://www.dot.state.mn.us/newsrels/...nger-rail.html

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MWRRI ARRA applications: Missouri

Missouri: $201.3 million

ARRA Rail initiatives pre-applications

1. Knob Noster Passing Siding Extension: ($8,500,000) Project would extend existing siding to 9,000 feet and break up a 27 mile segment with no usable siding.

2. Webster Universal Crossover: ($4,400,000) Project would increase ability to sort freight and passenger trains into and out of the St. Louis area.

3. Second Rail Bridge over Osage River: ($33,800,000) Project would eliminate train delay caused by single-track bottleneck over bridge and reduce maintenance flexibility by adding crossovers.

4. Rail Crossing Safety Improvements: ($3,600,000) Project would upgrade 13 crossings and close two, mostly west of Sedalia.

5. Double Track Lee's Summit to Pleasant Hill: ($56,600,000) Project would complete double track and signal upgrades to increase Amtrak train speed from 79 to 90 mph at this segment.

6. Kingsville Passing Siding: ($11,500,000) Project would break up 25-mile segment with no passing siding.

7. Hermann Universal Crossover: ($5,200,000) Project would close an 18.2 mile gap on double mainline track with no crossovers.

8. Third Mainline Track in Jefferson City Yard: ($9,700,000) Project would increase fluidity through the Jefferson City yard by maintaining bi-directional freight operations with Amtrak operations.

9. Real-Time Passenger Information Displays: ($3,000,000) Project would install displays at eight intermediate stations to provide general train status information.

10. Strasburg Grade Separation: ($15,000,000) Project would construct an overpass and remove a current at-grade crossing at Route E.

11. New Locomotive and Coach Equipment: ($50,000,000) Seek to purchase two new sets of locomotives and passenger equipment for use on the St. Louis to Kansas City route. (Application is part of the state of Wisconsin's application)

http://www.modot.org/newsandinfo/Dis...I&newsId=35841

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MWRRI ARRA applications: Iowa

IOWA $548.9 million.
ARRA Rail Initiatives pre-applications

$60 million. Chicago-Rockford-Dubuque 79mph intercity rail (Restore the Blackhawk line)

$62.9 million. Chicago-Quad Cities-Iowa City 79mph intercity rail. New service.

$29 million. BNSF line track restoration near Ottumwa Subdivision. California Zephyr service line.

$106 million. Iowa City-Des Moines. New 79mph service, contingent on Chi-Moline service.

$291 million. Des Moines-Omaha. New 79mph service, contingent on Chi-Des Moines service.

http://www.iowadot.gov/recovery/railprogram.htm

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MWRRI ARRA Applications; MICHIGAN

Michigan. $803 million
ARRA pre-applications

Michigans application includes station improvemnets and construction and track signalization and track improvements and right of way purchases and double tracking installations.

Individual project applications can be found here:
http://www.michigan.gov/mdot/0,1607,...8528--,00.html

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MWRRI ARRA application: ILLINOIS

ARRA Pre-Applications: Illinois 3.334 billion + $122 million joint app with Iowa.

Illinois' rail project has subdivided portion called the "Chicago Terminal Limits". Which helps to identify very local choke points in Chicago that affect an entire intercity or long distance train route. It is comparable to the CREATE program boundaries in the freight rail business. 2 Chicago terminal projects are part of CREATE.


1) Chicago Terminal Limits for the Midwest Regional Rail System (submitted in two parts - row below)
Studies are needed to address the complex problems within the terminal limits that constrain efficient operations of the MWRRS and to identify solutions to ensure efficient passenger rail operations

2) Track 1 A Project - Final Design/Construction for Quad Cities, Milwaukee and Detroit, $172,000,000
Track 1 B Project - St. Louis, Detroit and Milwaukee Corridors, $135,000,000


3)Chicago to St. Louis HSR Corridor - Joliet to St. Louis Meet Resolution Project
First phase of ground work for HSR corridor project approved by FRA, consisting of final design/rehabilitation/construction of existing sidings, new sidings and 2nd main to accommodate train meet points associated with HSR corridor and accompanying signal, bridge and crossing work. $64,000,000

4)Amtrak Illinois Zephyr Galesburg Congestion Relief Project
Construct 3 new tracks on BNSF in Galesburg for staging freight trains to improve passenger train service; build 3rd mainline track through Galesburg passenger station for improved efficiencies and install a new connection between Brookfield and Mendota. $45,500,000

5) Chicago-Moline-Iowa City Intercity Rail
Re-establishment of passenger rail service between Chicago, the Quad Cities and Iowa City. Requires signals, grade-crossing eq. reconstruction of track and new stations. Joint with IA $62,900,000

6) 74th St. Flyover, 75th Flyover (Forest Hill) and Belt Junction/Dan Ryan track changes to facilitate construction
CREATE - Metra Southwest Service commuter trains to relocate to LaSalle Street Station. Construction of two flyover structures along the Belt Junction and Dan Ryan. $500,000,000

7) Chicago to St. Louis HSR Corridor - Station/Platform/Parking Improvement Program
2nd element of ground work for HSR corridor project approved by FRA consisting of preliminary engineering/NEPA for upgrading existing stations/platforms and providing new stations/platforms/parking to accommodate increased passenger demand associated with Chicago to St. Louis HSR corridor. $108,000,000

8) Chicago to St. Louis HSR Corridor - Double Main/PTC Project
Amend the existing HSR corridor pgm. To accommodate 8 round trip HSR frequencies /1 round trip long distance Amtrak train and increased freight traffic as modeled. $2,300,000,000 Not sure but this could be the amendment that introduces the new true HSR 220mph route. That would mean that this is only to establish the corridor route but not an actual application for funding.

9) Chicago-Genoa-Rockford -(Route C) or Chicago-Belvidere-Rockford (Route A) Freeport-Dubuque Intercity Passenger Rail
Improvements to rail corridors to re-establish intercity passenger rail service between Chicago and Dubuque, IA - a rail corridor of 183 miles running east-west across the northern portion of Illinois from Chicago through Elgin, Rockford, Freeport, Galena, IL and into Dubuque, IA. Joint with Iowa DOT. $60,000,000

10) Chicago to St. Louis 220 mph high-speed express feasibility study and alternative analysis.
Development of plan to include widening existing ROW and constructing new tracks as well as moving existing freight tracks, acquiring new rolling stock, adding overhead electrification, grade- $10,000,000

11 Englewood - 63rd and State Streets Railroad Improvement Proj. and Grade Separation - approx. 5% has already been committed by IDOT, the CREATE Railroads and other federal funds. No dollar figure provided in the pre application.

http://www.dot.state.il.us/stimulus/...plications.pdf

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MWRRI ARRA applications: Indiana

ARRA Pre-Applicaitons: Indiana $171 million

Most importantly Indiana has applied for funding of the "South of the Lake Corridor" which will benefit every eastern and southeastern US city that connects to Chicago by rail.

1) Chicago -Indianpolis-Cincinnati (a service corridor) $22 million.
2) Chicago -Cleveland (a service corridor) $49 milliion
3) Indiana Gateway Improvements (South of the Lake Corridor) $100 million

http://www.in.gov/indot/3064.htm

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MWRRI ARRA Applications Wisconsin

ARRA Pre-Applicatioins: Wisconsin $1.219 billion

Wisconsin DOT is the lead agency for the MWRRI. They are submitting this fleet applicvation jointly with Iowa, Minn, Mo, Ill, Ind, Mich and Ohio.


Total anticipated project/program capital cost (in millions of dollars)(Note: preapplication estimates will not be binding):
$1.219 billion (rough estimate, 2008 $). Includes: 1) 31 coach car sets @ $23.5 million per set; 2) 62 locomotives @ $4.2
million per locomotive; 3) Six train service/inspection facilities @ $30 million per facility; 4) One heavy repair backshop @
$50 million

I have not found the pre application for Wiscon rail routes, but will amend this post when it is located.

http://www.iowadot.gov/recovery/pdfs...pplication.pdf

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MWRRI OHIO HUB ARRA Application- Ohio

MWRRI- OHIO Hub $250 to $400 million
ARRA Pre-applications

3-C Corridor: Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati

The first phase of the corridor development program envisions re-establishing passenger rail service over existing rail lines between Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton and Cincinnati, the 3 C corridor, with intermediate stops in suburban Cleveland, a stop near Mansfield, suburban Columbus, Springfield, Hamilton/Middletown, and suburban Cincinnati.

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/Divisions...pplication.pdf

I have not found other Ohio rail ARA applications. If I do I will post here.
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6) 74th St. Flyover, 75th Flyover (Forest Hill) and Belt Junction/Dan Ryan track changes to facilitate construction
CREATE - Metra Southwest Service commuter trains to relocate to LaSalle Street Station. Construction of two flyover structures along the Belt Junction and Dan Ryan. $500,000,000

11 Englewood - 63rd and State Streets Railroad Improvement Proj. and Grade Separation - approx. 5% has already been committed by IDOT, the CREATE Railroads and other federal funds. No dollar figure provided in the pre application.

http://www.dot.state.il.us/stimulus/...plications.pdf
There isn't actually a #11. It's meant to be a footnote to #6, which includes two flyovers at 75th Street and Englewood Junction. 5% of that project's cost is already covered through other sources, but IL is seeking 95% of the funds from stimulus monies. This project includes the taking and demolition of maybe 12 or 13 homes to accommodate the new viaduct.
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I know Evansville, IN was studying a possible commuter rail. Does anyone have any news on that or if they will step up to the plate and try to attract high speed rail to the city?
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ARRA Pre-Applicatioins: Wisconsin $1.219 billion

Wisconsin DOT is the lead agency for the MWRRI. They are submitting this fleet applicvation jointly with Iowa, Minn, Mo, Ill, Ind, Mich and Ohio.


Total anticipated project/program capital cost (in millions of dollars)(Note: preapplication estimates will not be binding):
$1.219 billion (rough estimate, 2008 $). Includes: 1) 31 coach car sets @ $23.5 million per set; 2) 62 locomotives @ $4.2
million per locomotive; 3) Six train service/inspection facilities @ $30 million per facility; 4) One heavy repair backshop @
$50 million

I have not found the pre application for Wiscon rail routes, but will amend this post when it is located.

http://www.iowadot.gov/recovery/pdfs...pplication.pdf
Sweet Jeebus, is Wisconsin ever serious about this.
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Sweet Jeebus, is Wisconsin ever serious about this.
You have no idea. Ex-NIMBYs are now in support of it under the understanding that it will upgrade the rail infrastructure and mean less interference with traffic and less late night alarm bells by replacing grade crossings. There is also great demand for Milwaukee-Madison rail service, of which there is currently none.

Governor Jim Doyle has been spearheading high speed rail in Wisconsin and has recently decided not to run for reelection, creating a huge political vacuum at the capitol. His absence from office could significantly affect our chances with this, especially when Scott Walker, Milwaukee's Chicago-School economics adherent County Executive is looking like the leading candidate into the gubernatorial elections.
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Wow, NIMBYs arguing in favor of high-speed rail. Tell that to those jokers in Palo Alto.

Well, at least it's good to know that the entire Midwest network will run with the Talgo cars. I was under the impression that only the Chi-Madison line would use them.

Also, grant recipients will be chosen later this year. Even if Doyle doesn't win re-election, it will be too late for his successor to stop the project in a politically-expedient way. Obviously, Scott Walker COULD send the funds back to the Feds at any point, but by the time he has that power, bidding will already be taking place, and Wisconsin construction/engineering firms will be pissed that this major job was stolen out from under them.

Besides, while conservative pundits love to rag on high-speed rail at the national level as a matter of principle, pols at a lower level, like Congressmen and governors, tend to be more pragmatic and realize the political benefits to themselves, and economic benefits to their constituencies, of rail spending (cynics would say they are just pigs out for more pork).
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You have no idea. Ex-NIMBYs are now in support of it under the understanding that it will upgrade the rail infrastructure and mean less interference with traffic and less late night alarm bells by replacing grade crossings. There is also great demand for Milwaukee-Madison rail service, of which there is currently none.

Governor Jim Doyle has been spearheading high speed rail in Wisconsin and has recently decided not to run for reelection, creating a huge political vacuum at the capitol. His absence from office could significantly affect our chances with this, especially when Scott Walker, Milwaukee's Chicago-School economics adherent County Executive is looking like the leading candidate into the gubernatorial elections.
I was just thinking about that as I read the price tag on that application. It seems odd to me that he'd risk leaving right as this thing is getting off the ground.

I've really got to study exactly what Michigan's application consists of. As far as I know, ours isn't so much geared to new grade seperations, which is something I'd really love to see happen. What I do know is that since we've been upgrading our infrastructure for years, now, that we'll need less money than most to meet our goals. Our line west of Kalamazoo already reaches speeds of 95 MPH because of the upgrades.
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Also, grant recipients will be chosen later this year. Even if Doyle doesn't win re-election, it will be too late for his successor to stop the project in a politically-expedient way. Obviously, Scott Walker COULD send the funds back to the Feds at any point, but by the time he has that power, bidding will already be taking place, and Wisconsin construction/engineering firms will be pissed that this major job was stolen out from under them.
Not to play a game of tennis, here, but the only thing I admire Scott Walker for is his conviction. He returned Federal stimulus funds for the County this year and would likely not hesitate to terminate a federally funded infrastructure project regardless who it would hurt.
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I know Evansville, IN was studying a possible commuter rail. Does anyone have any news on that or if they will step up to the plate and try to attract high speed rail to the city?
The Indiana Legislature rejected the funding amendment that would provide money for the study. The route is not part of Indiana's ARRA pre-applications. It is dead for this year at least.

Why doesn't Indiana have a plan to link Evansville-Bloomington-Indy-Anderson- Muncie-Ft. Wayne? That would make more sense to me. Oh yeah, they would rather pave over prime farmland and build a 4 lane divided highway.
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...Well, at least it's good to know that the entire Midwest network will run with the Talgo cars. I was under the impression that only the Chi-Madison line would use them....
What makes you think this?
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There isn't actually a #11. It's meant to be a footnote to #6, which includes two flyovers at 75th Street and Englewood Junction. 5% of that project's cost is already covered through other sources, but IL is seeking 95% of the funds from stimulus monies. This project includes the taking and demolition of maybe 12 or 13 homes to accommodate the new viaduct.
Have any schematics or something of this?

Though 12 or 13 homes are worthy tradeoff for the improved connectivity, Rather than condemning and demolishing them, would it be possible to move them and fill in some of the empty lots in the neighborhood? I know houses like these are a dime a dozen, but still, that might be a nice gesture for the neighborhood, better than pure demolition. Moving a house just down the block doesn't cost that much much (probably less than new construction at any rate.)
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No, I've never seen any diagrams, but I have to imagine, given the costs involved, that IDOT/Metra will choose to build a wide-radius turn at 75th and Normal that allows Southwest Service trains to travel at a high speed onto the Rock Island tracks... but it probably won't be such a big turn as to take land away from Hamilton Park to the north.

Moving the houses seems like a nice idea, but I'm not sure to what extent the Lot Next Door program has taken hold there in Auburn/Gresham. Some of the "vacant lots" may in fact be owned by the residents of the existing houses. I agree though, that the red-brick Victorians on Normal Avenue are pretty cool. They'd be tough to move, but it might be worth it.

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Wisconsin is submitting the application for money to buy 31 train sets. Presumably, these are the ones assembled in their own state (Talgo). I don't know if this includes, or is in addition to, the two sets the state already purchased. However, this could have national benefits. If a substantial portion of the current fleet on the Hiawatha, Lincoln Service, and Wolverine is replaced by Talgo passenger cars, then it frees up quite a few cars to be used on new lines around the country, including the new lines Illinois has planned for Chi-Dubuque and Chi-Quad Cities.
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