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That's a better view. It's actually a striking tower.

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Looks like a cousin of Citicorp (Citigroup)

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Yes! this is a rather exciting rendering. If the real thing comes anywhere close to how it is depicted it will be fantastic, and, an instantly recognizable feature to the east side skyline. Almost makes up for the sad state of affairs on the old Con-Ed site.
     
     
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Yes! this is a rather exciting rendering. If the real thing comes anywhere close to how it is depicted it will be fantastic, and, an instantly recognizable feature to the east side skyline. Almost makes up for the sad state of affairs on the old Con-Ed site.
Almost. That one is turning into a battle to get anything built. But this tower will be a new landmark for the area. It almost makes up for the disappointing Bloomberg Tower (shown in the distance).
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That's a great design. It makes you wonder what structures we can't imagine now, that will be built in the city down the road.
     
     
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I have my reservations about the design, but without doubt it will add to the sheer variety of NYC skyscraper design... not just a bunch of glass boxes. And that's a good thing.
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It's also a very light design, something we don't see a lot of.
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simply great design, love it!! please build it soon
     
     
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That's a great design. It makes you wonder what structures we can't imagine now, that will be built in the city down the road.
Yeah but let's not be so assured of this one just yet as it will be years before it gets under way and there is already word that the area NIMBYs have hired lawyers to try to fight the height.
     
     
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Why do I get the feeling that some of the very same rich NIMBY's opposing new highrises in NYC are at the same time writing out checks for apartments in some 2,000 foot tower in Dubai? Hypocrites.
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Yeah but let's not be so assured of this one just yet as it will be years before it gets under way and there is already word that the area NIMBYs have hired lawyers to try to fight the height.
I'd be shocked if the NIMBYs didn't try to fight it.

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The high-rise at 250 East 57th Street, as designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, is an angular 59-story glass tower over a retail base. Its offering plan still requires state approval.

The 1.5-acre site now houses P.S. 59 and the High School of Art and Design, which faces Second Avenue. For the 2011 school year, the schools will have roomier new quarters. The elementary will triple in size, and the high school will grow 40 percent, Mr. Smarr said.

First, though, World-Wide Group must build P.S. 59 a temporary facility; It is currently under construction on East 63rd Street.
The new schools will get this one pushed through. If only there was a way to increase the tower's size/height, becoming the visible beacon that Bloomberg should have been. But its fine just the way it is.
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this one looks very nice, but we need more renders!
     
     
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I'd be shocked if the NIMBYs didn't try to fight it.
I don't see why they wouldn't either. If it's not for solid reasoning, then it will be for spite.
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I don't see why they wouldn't either. If it's not for solid reasoning, then it will be for spite.
At the same time, some will be pleased by the new school space:

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The 1.5-acre site now houses P.S. 59 and the High School of Art and Design, which faces Second Avenue. For the 2011 school year, the schools will have roomier new quarters. The elementary will triple in size, and the high school will grow 40 percent
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Fund Closes $4.2B Deal for School Build



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NEW YORK CITY-The New York City Educational Construction Fund has closed the first phase of an agreement with the World Wide Group LLC to construct two new schools here in conjunction with a 59-story--up to 715 feet in height--residential and retail tower at 250 E. 57th St. at Second Ave.

Anderson Kill & Olick PC represented the Fund in the transaction, negotiating the lease and development agreements encompassing all facets of the project, including the financial terms, design and construction, insurance and indemnity.

In June 2006, the Fund revealed that it had designated locally based World Wide Group to be the developer for the redevelopment here, which currently houses the High School for Art and Design. The project will include a new high school designed by Skidmore Owings & Merrill.

The project will also include a new elementary school, approximately 200,000 sf of retail space, and a 488,000-sf, 300-unit residential tower containing affordable and market-rate housing. In 2006, plans were to begin construction in late 2008. James Cullen, head of Anderson Kill's real estate and construction practice, tells GlobeSt.com that they hope to start construction by September.

As GlobeSt.com previously reported, the mixed-use project is expected to cost $500 million, and Cullen tells GlobeSt.com that that number is very much "in the ballpark". The High School for Art and Design will gain 40% more space than it has at present, incorporating an art gallery to display students' work and significant upgrades to its studios and labs, according to a prepared statement.

Under the development plan, as GlobeSt.com previously reported, the developer will receive a 75-year lease of the air rights within which the apartment tower and retail space will be constructed. The income from this lease will finance the construction of the new schools, also being undertaken by the developer.

The two schools will not tap into taxpayers dollars, and the lease will produce a 75-year stream of income that may be used for similar public school projects, according to a prepared release. In total, the air rights lease agreement has a capital value in excess of $4.2 billion.

As GlobeSt.com previously reported, in the first phase of construction, World Wide will focus on redeveloping the High School of Art and Design and Public School 59, the two schools currently located on the site. Phase II will focus on the mixed-use component of the project. An estimated 20% of the 320-residential units will be affordable housing. Phase II can not start until Phase I is completed, so the anticipated completion date for Phase II is 2015.

According to information found on the Fund's website, the current school facilities on the site date back to the 1950s and are outmoded. Cullen tells GlobeSt.com that it is "ironic that it houses the High School for Art and Design."

The project would require the temporary relocation of P.S. 59 to another site for nearly three years during construction of the new school facilities, however Cullen tells GlobeSt.com that the High School for Art and Design would remain in its current facility until construction of the new school facilities is complete.

The temporary relocation site for P.S. 59 is located at 213 E. 63rd St. between Second and Third avenues. Cullen explains that the temporary relocation site wasn't previously a school, it was turned into a school and "that site will continue to serve as permanent swing space, if other schools need to be renovated or overhauled."

He explains that the air rights leases are "a boon to New York City on multiple fronts--educational infrastructure, housing stock and livability. We are very pleased to have the opportunity to help the City maximize its air rights assets."

This is the second new development commenced by the Educational Construction Fund in the last 18 months, the first being a similarly structured deal to build a new 540-seat 80,000-sf $45-million middle school and 241,000-sf apartment and retail complex on East 91st Street that includes 155 cooperative apartments.

Anderson Kill & Olick, P.C. represented the Fund in both transactions. Construction for the project began in April 2007, GlobeSt.com has learned. That mixed-use development by the DeMatteis Organizations and the Mattone Group is expected to reach "substantial completion" by early 2009.

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Manhattan To Get New Schools As City, Developer Reach Deal

By PETER KIEFER
June 19, 2008


Negotiators for the city have reached a multibillion-dollar agreement with a developer to build two new schools in Manhattan and a 59-story mixed-use tower at 250 E. 57th St.

Lawyers for the New York City Educational Construction Fund announced yesterday that they had closed on the first phase of financing for the World Wide Group to construct a new elementary school and a new high school that would replace the High School for Art and Design. In return, the World Wide Group has secured a 75-year lease from the city for a 1.5-acre site at East 57th Street and Second Avenue, where it plans to construct 200,000 square feet of retail space and 488,000 square feet of residential space. The developer plans to build 300 residential units, an unspecified number of which will be dedicated to "affordable" housing.

This type of deal, which allows for the creation of new schools at no cost to taxpayers, was more common in the 1970s, and is being revived by the Bloomberg administration. It calls for lease payments to be used for similar public school projects and, in total, the New York City Educational Construction Fund estimates the agreement has a capital value in excess of $4.2 billion.

The developer will add 40% more space to the High School for Art and Design, along with an art gallery and other upgrades. The new elementary school will be built on the site where P.S. 59 exists.

World Wide Group has built about 1,350 residential apartments in Manhattan, and was a partner in the development of the mixed-use Worldwide Plaza on West 50th Street.
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Seems like the school deal fends off any potential nimbys on this one. Anyone opposing this development would be seen as a child-hating monster, so thanks to the school perhaps the tower is immune.

Heh, I never thought I'd advocate using children as human shields, but here we go.
     
     
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Anything to satisfy these NIMBY's. Now if we can just include a Chuck E Cheese over at the Seaport propolsal, perhaps it can move foward without much objection
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But I do foresee a problem. The plan is to build the schools first and then the apartment tower but as you know with the recent construction accidents, once the new school opens, the NIMBYs will then say construction on the tower will endanger (and also disturb) their "precious" children.
     
     
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