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Old Posted Mar 22, 2017, 9:56 PM
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The village really needs a kick-ass project.
a couple kickass projects right on osborne are needed. buildup the main strip then deal with confusion corner. It could become epic
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That would require developers with passion for the city.
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a couple kickass projects right on osborne are needed. buildup the main strip then deal with confusion corner. It could become epic
If empty storefronts can't be filled it is unlikely any large projects will happen. The market is just too small.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 12:52 PM
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If empty storefronts can't be filled it is unlikely any large projects will happen. The market is just too small.
But that doesn't make any sense. Here we have the village as one of the most densely populated urban areas of the city which struggles to keep a few shops open. The market is plenty big. I'm not talking about major commercial projects. I'm talking about back filling parking lots with low rise residential blocks that have something that isn't a restaurant as ground floor retail.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 1:40 PM
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For what it's worth there is still good demand for residential space in Osborne Village as evidenced by the steady stream of small to mid sized projects getting built there over the last decade. As we speak there are more projects either in the pipeline or in the actual construction phase.

The real mystery is why that population growth isn't translating into an improved situation in the OV commercial strip... it's markedly worse now than it was 10 years ago, with big, prominent vacancies in the space above Shoppers Drug Mart, as well as the former American Apparel, Chook, Desart, Basil's and Osborne Village Inn locations, the soon to be former TD location, as well as a few other vacant spots or CRUs that are so underutilized they might as well be vacant.

I get that the Exchange District, Corydon and West Broadway have probably stolen some of Osborne Village's thunder, but that still doesn't fully account for the area's current state. I think there's some truth to what Optimus is saying... while there is plenty of growth in the area, the Osborne strip feels tired with not much new in years. A couple of new developments could breathe some life into the area. While the Gas Station Theatre redevelopment project is going to end up smaller than envisioned, there is still good potential in other lots in the area... considering how much is getting built elsewhere in the area, it's not that much of a stretch to imagine some mid-rise residential towers with a bit of ground floor commercial space eventually getting built there. One or two of those would probably have a noticeable effect.
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The real mystery is why that population growth isn't translating into an improved situation in the OV commercial strip... it's markedly worse now than it was 10 years ago, with big, prominent vacancies in the space above Shoppers Drug Mart, as well as the former American Apparel, Chook, Desart, Basil's and Osborne Village Inn locations, the soon to be former TD location, as well as a few other vacant spots or CRUs that are so underutilized they might as well be vacant.
Wasn't there talk here in the past that most of these places have the same landlord with a reputation for being difficult? Does that ring a bell for anyone else?
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2017, 1:52 PM
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^ That keeps coming up, but how much of the Village does this Scrooge McDuck landlord own? The way he keeps getting invoked you'd think he owned everything from Confusion Corner to Roslyn.
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The problem is the rent is to high for the retail to be viable in some of these spaces making for tight margins
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So just let your spaces sit empty? How is that fiscally logical?
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So the people who bought the Osborne Village Inn took a concert venue, a beer vendor, and an awesome diner... and converted it into a permanently vacant building?

I want to FedEx them a box of dog poop.
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For what it's worth there is still good demand for residential space in Osborne Village as evidenced by the steady stream of small to mid sized projects getting built there over the last decade. As we speak there are more projects either in the pipeline or in the actual construction phase.

The real mystery is why that population growth isn't translating into an improved situation in the OV commercial strip... it's markedly worse now than it was 10 years ago, with big, prominent vacancies in the space above Shoppers Drug Mart, as well as the former American Apparel, Chook, Desart, Basil's and Osborne Village Inn locations, the soon to be former TD location, as well as a few other vacant spots or CRUs that are so underutilized they might as well be vacant.

I get that the Exchange District, Corydon and West Broadway have probably stolen some of Osborne Village's thunder, but that still doesn't fully account for the area's current state. I think there's some truth to what Optimus is saying... while there is plenty of growth in the area, the Osborne strip feels tired with not much new in years. A couple of new developments could breathe some life into the area. While the Gas Station Theatre redevelopment project is going to end up smaller than envisioned, there is still good potential in other lots in the area... considering how much is getting built elsewhere in the area, it's not that much of a stretch to imagine some mid-rise residential towers with a bit of ground floor commercial space eventually getting built there. One or two of those would probably have a noticeable effect.
I love the densification that's going on in OV (in the form of 3 and 4 storey buildings). But I think their impact on population and "critical mass" is really overblown. Every new building that goes up has about the same amount of people as a small cul-de-sac does - a drop in the bucket really.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2017, 1:00 AM
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I love the densification that's going on in OV (in the form of 3 and 4 storey buildings). But I think their impact on population and "critical mass" is really overblown. Every new building that goes up has about the same amount of people as a small cul-de-sac does - a drop in the bucket really.
Yeah it wouod be great to see a few 10 to 15 floor projects go in.
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Agreed.
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caught some of the Vancouver ctv news on my time shift channels tonight and there was a story about how even robson street is struggling with its retail tenants. one block was quoted as having at least seven vacancies. story talked about old building stock, online trends and overpriced rents..
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2017, 12:03 PM
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From ambitious redevelopment to SRO apartments.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...038892?cmp=rss

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Should've just left OVI alone.
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From ambitious redevelopment to SRO apartments.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...038892?cmp=rss

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SRO apartments that rent for a minimum of $975/month. For 275 sq. feet.

Good luck to them.
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F*ck off. What a f*ckin joke. Will someone please emerge and build something amazing along Osborne...
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F*ck off. What a f*ckin joke. Will someone please emerge and build something amazing along Osborne...
If you want it that bad, do it yourself.
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