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Old Posted Mar 1, 2017, 5:40 PM
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Im not sure Sammy's lawyer is doing him any favours here...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...eque-1.4001030
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2017, 12:27 AM
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Im not sure Sammy's lawyer is doing him any favours here...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...eque-1.4001030
Here's what should happen
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...rges-1.4046781
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2017, 3:09 AM
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Any word on the design for the protectors around the new HQ? Jersey barriers and old sidewalks are starting to get on my nerves a tad. Would be nice to have 'em finished for the games. Hope there's some cool design and lots of planters so it's lessens the harshness of a block long blank wall.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2017, 1:51 PM
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Any word on the design for the protectors around the new HQ? Jersey barriers and old sidewalks are starting to get on my nerves a tad. Would be nice to have 'em finished for the games. Hope there's some cool design and lots of planters so it's lessens the harshness of a block long blank wall.
http://www.winnipeg.ca/finance/finda...r_Proposal.pdf

The city just awarded an engineering contract in January for all phases of design and construction for rehabbing Garry st and including protected bike lanes. Part of the assignment is design of the bollards around the police headquarters and integrating them into the streetscape somehow.

Out of the 16million budgeted in the prelim capital budget, only 3m is given to garry st in 2017, with 10m in 2018.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2017, 2:14 AM
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Whats inside?

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I went to Doors Open specifically to see the new Police Headquarters, but the tour was limited to the small corner of the museum. I was told the only way to get inside is the back of a cruiser or pass the police recruit training. We paid for it,, does it really have to be 100% hidden, even photos online? Post any you know of. I would really like to see what we got for a $hundred million adding over 200,000sq feet to a pretty big space to begin with.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2017, 3:20 AM
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I went to Doors Open specifically to see the new Police Headquarters, but the tour was limited to the small corner of the museum. I was told the only way to get inside is the back of a cruiser or pass the police recruit training. We paid for it,, does it really have to be 100% hidden, even photos online? Post any you know of. I would really like to see what we got for a $hundred million adding over 200,000sq feet to a pretty big space to begin with.
You want to experience the full schematics of the Winnipeg Police Service building? Think about what you're asking. I understand the innocent of your inquiry though.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2017, 5:09 AM
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You want to experience the full schematics of the Winnipeg Police Service building? Think about what you're asking. I understand the innocent of your inquiry though.
I didn't use the word schematics. People are pretty paranoid,, opps,, has someone called the cops on me?

Jokes aside. There must me a middle ground where they can show the public inside without compromising safety.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2017, 6:00 AM
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I didn't use the word schematics. People are pretty paranoid,, opps,, has someone called the cops on me?

Jokes aside. There must me a middle ground where they can show the public inside without compromising safety.
Honestly, it's not that interesting. Other than the cells in central processing, it's not much different than a regular office building. Cubicals, hallways, a few break rooms and elevators.

Basically though, the middle ground is just showing the public the museum. Lots of confidential meetings are had with victims, etc on the secure side. I understand your curiosity as well, but I'm sure you get why the public can't see a lot of it.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2017, 3:22 PM
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"I understand your curiosity as well, but I'm sure you get why the public can't see a lot of it."

I would be curious to see side by side before and before and after pictures. Its a huge tranformation. FYI: Last I heard the twin postal building in Vancouver is set to have 2 condo towers build on top.
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2017, 2:54 PM
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Also curious on the insides of the new police hq but also realize for security and operational reasons tours for the random public is just a solid no. That said WPS should be able to take some pictures of the interior and after proper vetting share them with the public. It would have been ideal to get those pictures done after construction was completed but before staff had moved in.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2018, 4:20 PM
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So what does everyone think about the police union demanding secured parking for its members? Apparently there was another incident recently where a police officer was accosted near his car by a baddie. The WPA has now asked for the Millennium Library parkade to be reserved for police.

I think this situation is another example of how badly screwed up the police HQ project has turned out to be. There is an obvious need for some measure of secured parking for officers... when you're walking to your car alone at 2 am and there are gangsters and drug dealers out there who want to get even with you, you would probably appreciate having a secured parking facility. One was initially contemplated in the former Canada Post warehouse, but when the city scrapped plans to use the Canada Post office tower as part of the project, that meant there was no room left for parking in the warehouse.

Given the growth in the area, I wonder if the Parking Authority should be tasked with building a parkade on an adjacent block - hell, get the SkyCity parkade built - and cordon off a couple of levels for police? That might be the most reasonable thing to do here. It'll cost a lot of money, but what else can you do? It would be idiocy to eliminate the library's parkade to make up for this situation.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2018, 4:28 PM
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^ I personally things its kind of hilarious (or ironic?) that the police need secured parking.

I am not sure how much of a big deal this really is, considering the complaints are coming from the union. Honestly, why not just arrange to have uniformed escorts to your car? Surely if it is THAT big of a problem, the police can figure out how to address it on their own. I mean, good grief - security is kinda their thing.

If this whining does result in some sort of secured parking set aside for the police, they sure as shit better be paying market rates for their personal parking spots, and not the taxpayers.
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Crime in a parkade. That's wrong on multiple levels.
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Crime in a parkade. That's wrong on multiple levels.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2018, 4:53 PM
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So what does everyone think about the police union demanding secured parking for its members? Apparently there was another incident recently where a police officer was accosted near his car by a baddie. The WPA has now asked for the Millennium Library parkade to be reserved for police.

I think this situation is another example of how badly screwed up the police HQ project has turned out to be. There is an obvious need for some measure of secured parking for officers... when you're walking to your car alone at 2 am and there are gangsters and drug dealers out there who want to get even with you, you would probably appreciate having a secured parking facility. One was initially contemplated in the former Canada Post warehouse, but when the city scrapped plans to use the Canada Post office tower as part of the project, that meant there was no room left for parking in the warehouse.

Given the growth in the area, I wonder if the Parking Authority should be tasked with building a parkade on an adjacent block - hell, get the SkyCity parkade built - and cordon off a couple of levels for police? That might be the most reasonable thing to do here. It'll cost a lot of money, but what else can you do? It would be idiocy to eliminate the library's parkade to make up for this situation.
And a female student walking from the U of W was pulled into a car by three men and luckily she was able to escape losing her jacket and backpack in the attack. Point is that crime happens everywhere, no one is immune and no one is forcing you to stay on the job as a police officer if you feel unsafe!

The spending for the WPS and WFPS went unchecked far too long with unsustainable wage increases above the rate of inflation with salaries this city can no longer afford, hell you had the fire fighters union chief (Forrest) receiving a salary and benefits for twenty years from the city without a written contract nor was this guy doing any work for the city!
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2018, 5:25 PM
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I fall into the camp that WPS should not be given secure parking downtown. Not that their members don't deserve safety but rather the employer is responsible for ensure downtown is safe for everyone. Allowing them to basically roll into the station, get into their personal vehicle and escape to the suburbs or further isn't addressing the fundamental issues.

From a practical point of view though, if they are going to be given secure parking convert the lower level of the Millennium Library and make in exclusive WPS use. That said they should fully need to pay the same market rate as the public access first level.
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Remember, these are POLICE OFFICERS. They are the police. So be an officer when the baddies approach you. The civilian employees of the police are no different than anyone else downtown. Shouldn't take away the publics parkade for the police. That's just silly.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2018, 5:43 PM
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Let them carry their guns. I am tired of punks and other criminals. Make downtown safer then...have foot patrols.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2018, 5:58 PM
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To be clear, I'm supportive of finding some type of solution for them. Just not taking away public amenities.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2018, 6:15 PM
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Let them carry their guns. I am tired of punks and other criminals. Make downtown safer then...have foot patrols.
Bowman and the "lets all move downtown" proponents keep telling us how much safer it is downtown now and yet trained police officers fear walking to their parked vehicles around the public safety building, either it's union ploy for some subsidized parking or downtown really isn't safe (which is probably true).
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