HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #1  
Old Posted Oct 15, 2012, 10:34 PM
SteelTown's Avatar
SteelTown SteelTown is online now
It's Hammer Time
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 19,883
Ontario Liberal leadership

Dalton McGuinty has just resigned. A new Liberal leader will be needed and we'll have a new Premier.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #2  
Old Posted Oct 15, 2012, 10:36 PM
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
Innsertnamehere Innsertnamehere is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 11,595
beat me to this thread my a whole 2 minutes! it will be interesting to see what happens. I was thinking the other day how no major ontario party has a likable party leader. this might (hopefully) change things.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #3  
Old Posted Oct 15, 2012, 10:48 PM
eternallyme eternallyme is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 5,243
Any potential leader would have a LOT of bridges to rebuild. If they stick to the McGuinty script, they would likely be reduced to no better than the third party role.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #4  
Old Posted Oct 15, 2012, 11:00 PM
haljackey's Avatar
haljackey haljackey is offline
User Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 3,205
I know Chris Bentley has always been gunning for the position, but I don't think that will happen now that he's being accused for being found in contempt of the legislature.
__________________
My Twitter

My Simcity Stuff
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #5  
Old Posted Oct 15, 2012, 11:39 PM
Pimpmasterdac's Avatar
Pimpmasterdac Pimpmasterdac is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: London
Posts: 693
Thank god about time! Best news Ontario could have received. McGunity should've resigned a while ago. He's left Ontario in a lot worse situation than when he got it 9 years ago.

Bentley had been positioning himself big time to take over the leadership, but his goose has been cooked by this gas plant fiasco. He'll be lucky to get re-elected as an MPP let alone become Liberal leader.

IMO the leadership would be like being named captain of the Titanic after the iceberg has hit. Nothing is going to change the result of the disaster.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #6  
Old Posted Oct 15, 2012, 11:49 PM
eternallyme eternallyme is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 5,243
The only option I can see without a sinking ship situation is for the Liberals to pick someone outside of caucus - such as in municipal politics or in the private sector - with no provincial experience.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7  
Old Posted Oct 15, 2012, 11:49 PM
Troll Troll is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 50
ah good, because a new liberal leader will prevent voter fatigue from electing the PC candidate who is less than capable
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #8  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 12:15 AM
vid's Avatar
vid vid is offline
I am a typical
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Thunder Bay
Posts: 41,172
Quote:
Originally Posted by eternallyme View Post
The only option I can see without a sinking ship situation is for the Liberals to pick someone outside of caucus - such as in municipal politics or in the private sector - with no provincial experience.
I agree.

It's interesting that just minutes before this was announced, I completed a survey on his performance that was basically "dis-satisfactory/disapprove" right down the line. Tim Hudak got even lower marks.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #9  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 12:31 AM
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
Innsertnamehere Innsertnamehere is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 11,595
The next election will be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if we get record low turnout levels, as it will truly become voting for the best of 3 evils.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #10  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 1:07 AM
waterloowarrior's Avatar
waterloowarrior waterloowarrior is offline
National Capital Region
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Eastern Ontario
Posts: 9,244
Yasir Naqvi and Kathleen Wynne could be good urban choices.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #11  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 1:23 AM
haljackey's Avatar
haljackey haljackey is offline
User Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 3,205
Quote:
Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere View Post
The next election will be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if we get record low turnout levels, as it will truly become voting for the best of 3 evils.
I hate all 3 major political parties in Ontario and it seems many others do as well.

Instead of voting for the one you hate the most, why not support the Ontario Green Party or a fringe party?

I recall last election many voters wanted a 'none of the above' option so they could vote without voting. It is meant to express their disatisfaction with the election system or the choices.
-Ontario did have a proportional representation referendum in the 2007 election but I believe but it failed miserably.
__________________
My Twitter

My Simcity Stuff
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #12  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 1:33 AM
MolsonExport's Avatar
MolsonExport MolsonExport is offline
The Vomit Bag.
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Otisburgh
Posts: 44,903
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteelTown View Post
Dalton McGuinty has just resigned. A new Liberal leader will be needed and we'll have a new Premier.
wholly cow, an ignominious end to the reptilian kitten eater from space.
__________________
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. (Bertrand Russell)
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 1:34 AM
MolsonExport's Avatar
MolsonExport MolsonExport is offline
The Vomit Bag.
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Otisburgh
Posts: 44,903
Article by the glob on the subject: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4614086/
__________________
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. (Bertrand Russell)
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #14  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 1:36 AM
vid's Avatar
vid vid is offline
I am a typical
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Thunder Bay
Posts: 41,172
Ontario has "vote without voting". It's called "declining the ballot", and it is what I did.

You go to the polling station and follow the process until they hand you the ballot, and then simply give it back to them and say "I decline my ballot". If we can get more people doing this we might make a difference.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #15  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 1:54 AM
eternallyme eternallyme is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 5,243
Quote:
Originally Posted by waterloowarrior View Post
Yasir Naqvi and Kathleen Wynne could be good urban choices.
They need to stay outside the current caucus, otherwise they will still have all the baggage. They need a serious new direction. Only an outside (i.e. someone in municipal politics) can help now.

Any good mayors in Ontario tied to the Liberals but have never served in the Ontario Legislature?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #16  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 2:00 AM
toaster toaster is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 329
Quote:
Originally Posted by eternallyme View Post
They need to stay outside the current caucus, otherwise they will still have all the baggage. They need a serious new direction. Only an outside (i.e. someone in municipal politics) can help now.

Any good mayors in Ontario tied to the Liberals but have never served in the Ontario Legislature?
Jim Watson did serve, but it was before most of the scandal.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #17  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 2:36 AM
Janbe Janbe is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 52
I have a question? When the budget is introduced in the spring and if an opposition votes it down, then does Mcguity run in the next election even though he is stepping down?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #18  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 3:01 AM
eternallyme eternallyme is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 5,243
Quote:
Originally Posted by Janbe View Post
I have a question? When the budget is introduced in the spring and if an opposition votes it down, then does Mcguity run in the next election even though he is stepping down?
That is correct.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #19  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 3:38 AM
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
Innsertnamehere Innsertnamehere is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 11,595
Nope. This resignation means parliament will be stopped until the new leader is elected. I.E. no new budget until the new leader is elected.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #20  
Old Posted Oct 16, 2012, 4:02 PM
vid's Avatar
vid vid is offline
I am a typical
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Thunder Bay
Posts: 41,172
There will probably be a new leader by next spring, no?
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Ontario
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 1:54 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.