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Old Posted Nov 3, 2015, 9:59 PM
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I wish they could just build this. Maybe make a 1600-1700' version, carve an wide rectangular opening around the 1500' mark, add an observation deck with restaurant, make it mixed used, and call it the CWFC. Chicago World Finacial Center.

One of my favorite proposals in the country that didn't happen.

While I liked the spire, it wasn't anything special except for its height (IMO). Now this proposal, this was a bummer to not have.

Whatever rises, this location, with impeccable views, needs to be great and something that stands out on the national level. Yes, I'd like it to be a super tall that exceeds all. To wishful thinking . Here Here...


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This in that location, and thats a wrap for the day.
Agree with all of this.
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Old Posted Nov 3, 2015, 10:00 PM
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I don't care how it looks, the one thing I know is that whatever it is... it will be unique. You may look at it once it's completed and say how ugly it looks. Well the one thing I know is that uniqueness... with time, will eventually go appreciated, and loved by Chicagoans.
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2015, 8:04 PM
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I don't care how it looks, the one thing I know is that whatever it is... it will be unique. You may look at it once it's completed and say how ugly it looks. Well the one thing I know is that uniqueness... with time, will eventually go appreciated, and loved by Chicagoans.
Yea... 2WTC has grown on me a lot at least from a couple angles.

I hope BIG doesn't try to get too weird though, I do appreciate simplicity and looking like a normal building. Height could always help.. maybe I'm being unrealistic but I'd be disappointed if it ends up shorter than 400.
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You may look at it once it's completed and say how ugly it looks. Well the one thing I know is that uniqueness... with time, will eventually go appreciated, and loved by Chicagoans.
Just like Prentice right?

...or maybe the Thompson Center?
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 12:29 AM
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Just like Prentice right?

...or maybe the Thompson Center?
Thompson Center is not functional, sad it could not stay longer. Prentice was difficult to see go, and it many tried to save it...
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Old Posted Nov 14, 2015, 8:53 PM
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Hell no, I don't want one of BIG's shitty toy block towers.
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Agree with all of this.
What a shame this never got build it's stunning! I had never seen this proposal before, what are the odds of this resurfacing as we are seeing proposals from before the recession starting to put back into recirculation. This would be perfect for the spire spot as indicated.
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What a shame this never got build it's stunning! I had never seen this proposal before, what are the odds of this resurfacing as we are seeing proposals from before the recession starting to put back into recirculation. This would be perfect for the spire spot as indicated.
0% The site is where the Loews was built.
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0% The site is where the Loews was built.
Not at that exact site but somewhere else who are the designers behind this proposal? Thanks
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2015, 3:14 AM
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Not at that exact site but somewhere else who are the designers behind this proposal? Thanks
DeStefano, and Fordham was the developer.
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I hope BIG doesn't try to get too weird though, I do appreciate simplicity and looking like a normal building.
There will be a competition with proposals from multiple firms.
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There will be a competition with proposals from multiple firms.
any insider info/clues on which firms may be involved in the process?
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There will be a competition with proposals from multiple firms.
It would be interesting if they selected the top 3 proposals and put it up for a public vote. If they are going all-out height wise it would certainly get a lot of media attention like the Spire itself did. It would be especially appropriate for Chicago given the architectural history and enthusiasm that many residents have, at least in comparison to most other cities.

It would be a genius marketing ploy as well. Just require a validated email address to vote and then boom, you get a massive database of email addresses you can directly market the units to.
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There will be a competition with proposals from multiple firms.
I hope SHoP is one of them

If it does end up being BIG his supertalls in NY aren't *that* bad, and would be something new for Chicago.
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I have written this off as a supertall
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Yeah, it'll be a shitbox
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I have written this off as a supertall
Why? Especially with a foundation already in the ground to support a supertall structure I would assume they have incentive to go for height.
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At this point, I'm more curious as to what they want more than who the architect is going to be. of course, that'll change once I find out what it'll be
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Yeah, it'll be a shitbox
Given the configuration of caissons, I highly doubt it will be a box. The foundation is designed for a round or septagon-shaped tower, and the architects will have to work around those constraints unless they want to pour some crazy system of giant grade beams to distribute the weight from a rectangular column grid.

The odd number of sides (7!) in Calatrava's design is actually a huge design challenge, because there's no easy or elegant way to transition that back to a 4-sided square or rectangular floorplate.
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Related would rather dig up the foundation than build something interesting.
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