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Old Posted Apr 11, 2007, 2:08 PM
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Hopefully tending to upscale, publicized and attractive for CP, GWCC and AmericasMart visitors, with some well-maintained multimedia and display common areas. There's plenty of parking space for the locals as well.

I'm sorry Cousins didn't acquire and develop it as a multilevel "Avenue".
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I still think an Atlanta version of NYC's Chelsea Market, or a "downtown" version of the Dekalb Farmer's Market would be an awesome idea for the old Macy's building.
I think that would be a great idea in concept, but downtown doesn't have the residential force to support the actual market like that. Now, I think SoNo might be a wonderful use of this concept.
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I think that would be a great idea in concept, but downtown doesn't have the residential force to support the actual market like that. Now, I think SoNo might be a wonderful use of this concept.
You mean like Sweet Auburn market?
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I think that would be a great idea in concept, but downtown doesn't have the residential force to support the actual market like that. Now, I think SoNo might be a wonderful use of this concept.
I would agree that Downtown doesn't currently have the residential numbers to support it, but I would think that a combination of tourists, conventioneers, residents, and daytime office workers might support it until more people move Downtown.

As for SoNo, that would rock, since I live there!
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How does Midtown's per capita income in 1 and 3 mile radii compare to Buckhead's?

This is the real number that any potential retailers are interested in.
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I would agree that Downtown doesn't currently have the residential numbers to support it, but I would think that a combination of tourists, conventioneers, residents, and daytime office workers might support it until more people move Downtown.
yeah, if it was like the Strip District in Pittsburgh or the Reading Terminal Market in Philly it would both support whatever residential population there is as well as be a tourist attraction if you got high quality (not plastic could-be-anywhere), shops/produce stalls/lunch counters with genuine Atlanta connections. What Sweet Auburn was meant to be, I think.
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Let's pitch it to the new owner.
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How does Midtown's per capita income in 1 and 3 mile radii compare to Buckhead's?

This is the real number that any potential retailers are interested in.
Here's an overview of the Midtown trade area:

http://www.midtownmile.com/trade_area.html

And here are some for Downtown:

http://www.atlantadowntown.com/Doing...own_Glance.asp

I believe there's also some good retail market information in the report at:

http://www.atlantadowntown.com/ImagineDowntownIntro.asp

From everything I've heard,Downtown/Midtown are statically some of the most under-retailed urban areas in the nation.
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You mean like Sweet Auburn market?

Yes and no. Sweet Auburn is outstanding. It is such a great farmers' market-type installation. I think there is potential to have another similar area with more international or higher-end culinary wares. Having a culinary destination area like that (with a combination of markets) could actually be a wonderful defining aspect for these regions of Atlanta. It also would serve to promote both the culinary and cosmopolitan reputation of the city. We've got some great chefs that love to discuss their ideas and work. Why not reward them with a place where they can meet their customers and truly get creative with a plethora of items right in front of them.
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Here's an overview of the Midtown trade area:

http://www.midtownmile.com/trade_area.html

And here are some for Downtown:

http://www.atlantadowntown.com/Doing...own_Glance.asp

I believe there's also some good retail market information in the report at:

http://www.atlantadowntown.com/ImagineDowntownIntro.asp

From everything I've heard,Downtown/Midtown are statically some of the most under-retailed urban areas in the nation.
Great info, how does the $81K Average HH income compare to Buckhead? (For comparison to see if high-end retailers would prefer a buckhead or midtown location if forced to choose).

Also, what the heck is Psychographic Segmentation?
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Let's pitch it to the new owner.
I'm there, man!
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Yes and no. Sweet Auburn is outstanding. It is such a great farmers' market-type installation. I think there is potential to have another similar area with more international or higher-end culinary wares. Having a culinary destination area like that (with a combination of markets) could actually be a wonderful defining aspect for these regions of Atlanta. It also would serve to promote both the culinary and cosmopolitan reputation of the city. We've got some great chefs that love to discuss their ideas and work. Why not reward them with a place where they can meet their customers and truly get creative with a plethora of items right in front of them.
Great idea. Is the Food Network based here in ATL? Some interesting possibilities...
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Great idea. Is the Food Network based here in ATL? Some interesting possibilities...
Pretty sure the network is based out of New York. However, I can name at least one popular Chef on their network that is from Atlanta (and filsm regularly here), and another from Savannah. There may be even more, but I'm just not that into food network. Good Eats is the shit though.
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Food Network's HQ is in the Chelsea Market building near the Meatpacking District. Paula Deen is from Savannah and tapes her show from there. Tyler Florence is from Greenville, South Carolina. i don't know what Atlanta chef you are thinking of. Who is it?
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It's Alton Brown!!!!!

I've bumped into him a couple of times.
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Food Network's HQ is in the Chelsea Market building near the Meatpacking District. Paula Deen is from Savannah and tapes her show from there. Tyler Florence is from Greenville, South Carolina. i don't know what Atlanta chef you are thinking of. Who is it?
I think Paula actually does the bulk of her filming in her home in Savannah now. I remember her mentioning on one of her shows that the kitchen in her new home was specifically designed with the idea in mind that she could shoot more episodes right there in Savannah.

BTW, Alton Brown's show just won a Peabody Award....very prestigious!
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It's Alton Brown!!!!!

I've bumped into him a couple of times.
Every once in awhile, you see them filming at Harry's Farmers Market in Roswell.
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I love me some Paula Deen! My boyfriend and I are addicted to her. She seems so generally warm and funny and i love her little cackle/laugh.
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Alton Brown is awesome. I love how he gives you the "science" behind cooking. One FN "chef" I cant stand, however, is Sooondra Llllee and her wretched "food" kreations.

For the Midtown Mile, does anyone know if something is planned at the Federal Reserve. I know they probably wont allow any construction there, but can something be done to minimze this huge break in the street wall? I think a really attractive fence could be put up (to sort of give people something to "push" back on) or is that totally anti-urban?
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For the Midtown Mile, does anyone know if something is planned at the Federal Reserve. I know they probably wont allow any construction there, but can something be done to minimze this huge break in the street wall? I think a really attractive fence could be put up (to sort of give people something to "push" back on) or is that totally anti-urban?
Perhaps there could be a marketplace with street-vendors and such. It could be a small performance area with dancing/musical performers, or a place where public demonstrations (like the tobacco "truth" ads or something) are held. If there is enough pedestrian traffic, I could see this space being put to good use. Don't know how protective they are of that space though. It seems that after the majority of Peachtree is developed in this area (with buildings/stores up to the street), this open space might be valued and could be put to great use.
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