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Old Posted Sep 20, 2008, 12:56 AM
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Will Prince George Take Off?

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Will Prince George take off?
The B. C. city dreams of being an air hub, but federal rules stand in its way


Nathan Vanderklippe, Financial Post
Published: Saturday, September 13, 2008



Stieg Hoeg is nervous as he prepares to set foot on the flawless black asphalt of Runway 15-33. The fresh pavement will make this the third-longest runway in Canada when it opens next month, but even though several planes have already landed on it, Mr. Hoeg, the airport manager, has yet to step on it.

It's not that he's worried about getting in the way of incoming aircraft -- the runway is still closed. He's just superstitious. With only weeks to go before the runway extension is formally opened, he doesn't want premature footsteps to jinx it or the lofty aspirations its $36-million price tag represents.

For him and many others in this northern B. C. city, these 11,450 feet of landing space are hallowed ground, a red carpet leading to a bright new future for an area that sees its future potential as "enormous."

That belief is the foundation of a bid to transform a massive 2,500-acre tract of forest and hay fields surrounding the airport into a logistics park and remake Prince George into a global transportation and manufacturing hub. The new runway, they hope, will bring in the massive air freighters that carry time-sensitive cargo across the globe.

In a city madly trying to escape its forestry roots, the optimism is so thick it hangs in the air. City boosters suggest Prince George's next chapter will involve flying fish, beef and even wine to Asia, building computer components, perhaps making car parts. In a part of the country renowned for its wallet-stuffing forestry salaries, there is even talk of stealing manufacturing plants now staffed by China's inexpensive labour force.

The city's economic-development arm, Initiatives Prince George, has begun marketing the advent of the "northern decade" and one local businessman predicts Prince George's population will explode from its current 80,000 to 200,000 by 2020.

"It's going to be one of the biggest things," says Harry Backlin, 79, the Coldwell Banker realtor who helped assemble the airport lands for a Vancouver developer. In the past 33 years, he claims involvement in $600-million worth of city development, and is one of the scheme's most vocal supporters.

"You know why? 'What the mind of man can conceive and believe, he will achieve.' That's from Napoleon Hill," he said, referring to an early U. S. motivational writer.

An entire wall of Mr. Backlin's office in downtown Prince George is lined with floor-to-ceiling mirrors. "I believe in making things look larger, OK?" he says -- but is adamant the airport plans are no illusion.

"I will not live to see it all come together, but what we have done -- we've impregnated the animal and the baby is born and it's starting to develop and we're feeding it."

Eight hundred kilometres north of Vancouver, Prince George developed next to the vast forests that for decades fuelled its economy.

"It used to be that Prince George was a lumber camp for families," says Don Zurowski, a city councillor who can recall the times when forestry downturns produced 25% unemployment rates.

Today, forestry is in the worst mess anyone can remember, yet the town's unemployment rate only nudged up from 5.1% to 7.6% --evidence that change has already begun. New jobs have come from the mining boom, a fast-growing university and other public-sector investments that include a new cancer centre. Recent years have brought a 550,000-square-foot retail complex and big-name box stores such as Costco and Home Depot.

Yet local industry remains firmly tied to forestry, despite the geographic virtues that optimists say will remake the region.

Prince George is a crossroads city, lying at the confluence of north-south and east-west roads and rail lines. It sits beneath the circumpolar air routes that connect North America with Asia. A study done for the airport suggests Boeing 747s flying from Hong Kong to Dallas could save 8,000 pounds of fuel per flight -- and more than $300,000 a year -- by stopping in Prince George instead of Anchorage, the current destination for such refuelling stops.

In addition, the growing container traffic coming through the new Fairview Terminal in nearby Prince Rupert gives Prince George easy access to Asian markets.

In fact, its neighbour's success has greatly built up Prince George's hopes.

"You look back 15 years, it was a wild idea to have a container port in Prince Rupert. That's a reality today," says Tim McEwan, chief executive of Initiatives Prince George. As he speaks, the latest trainload of containers rolls beneath his office window as proof. "So some-thing's right about this place."

Apart from its location, Prince George has abundant land--and it's cheap, at about 10% of Lower Mainland values. The city is on the cusp of turning all those attributes into massive capital infusions and thick new profit streams, Mr. McEwan says. "We're going from field of dreams to reality," he said.

Yet for all its optimism, the city has little to show for its ambitions -- and has its share of skeptics. Apart from a $20-million intermodal facility built by CN Rail, little transportation and logistics investment has materialized. The Prince Rupert trains don't even stop in Prince George, and air experts doubt the planes will, either.

"They face a pretty formidable challenge in being able to wrestle away a fair amount of business out of Anchorage," says Rick Erickson, a Calgarybased aviation consultant at R. P. Erickson & Associates.

Cargo carriers have already made huge investments in Anchorage, where free-trade zones enable the easy flow of freight. Such zones do not exist in Canada, and it is unlikely Prince George could create one, he said. Air carriers have already made massive investments in Alaska that they are unlikely to abandon. While Prince George says it can match Anchorage on fuelling and landing fees, its ambitions are likely to run into a formidable wall:Ottawa.

For flights to pick up cargo in Prince George, they would have to secure federal traffic rights, and "the way it stands now, we are loath as a country to give cargo rights to non-Canadian players," Mr. Erickson says. "I salute the Prince George people, but I think they are facing some very, very severe challenges. I know the Calgary people have looked at this very closely and worked very hard to attract some Asian operators into the Calgary market, without any success."

The airport is nonetheless optimistic, banking on the current federal Asia-Pacific Gateway focus to help smooth regulatory concerns. Aside from the risks of an economic downturn or a punishing carbon tax -- both of which could scotch airport growth-- Mr. Hoeg sees his greatest risk as "being too successful and not providing a good level of service."

And he doubts his steps on to the runway damaged that prospect.

"It felt good," he says. "In fact, our luck had been going in the other direction-- we were having some challenges with construction. Now the weather has improved, the sky has opened, the birds are singing."

nvanderklippe@nationalpost.com
http://www.financialpost.com/most_po...html?id=788055
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Well, PG and PR suffer from the "last hired, first fired" syndrome. They expand only at the tail end of a boom period. By the time the investments are made, the boom has ended and the city languishes.

The first example of this happening was with the Grand Trunk Pacific railway. When that RR was conceived at the turn of the previous century, global trade and modernization were proceeding rapidly, and it was anticipated that trade between Asia and the Americas would boom.

That prediction was correct, but it would have to wait eighty years to come true. Instead, we got the Great War which devoured the capital of the British Empire, followed by WWII and the Cold War.

The investments in the GTP railway wouldn't really be justified by trade volumes until the late 20th century.

Now look at the timing of the article cited in this thread: Sept. 2007, right before the crash.

If I were in civic gov't, or living in the region, I would be very reluctant to ever involve any significant public expenditure if such spending depended on a near-term expansion. Instead, I would want to see a major commitment from outside capital before committing any of my own.

People in the Interior must make sure they absorb the lessons of their own history.
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From the looks of this project it looks like some of the key infrustructure for the logistics park will be constructed this year. There was some interest from major air carriers and apparently they are willing to utilize the airport if anchorage goes down for any reason. There are a lot of benefits of locating a business in Prince George, very cheap land, a great university and at least now, good transportation links to asia and the midwest. I see this as a long term investment and I have strong feelings that it will pay off.
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If you could put it on a plane, yes, I expect it would. Otherwise......
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i think it could serve the northern communities well if it offered say UK connections or more US ones

people would drive down from Ft st john or dawson creek, terrace etc if the7y could fly direct

I know we drove the 8+ hours from FSJ to edmonton a number of times to catch flights or pick people from overseas up - PG was/is only 4 hours would be much easier
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wow!! i say this city should try everything they can, frick that would be amazing. are they really gonna try this?
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Oh yeah they're gonna try this. One in, hopefully more to follow.

From Flightsource.ca
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Prince George Airport Welcomes First Trans-Pacific 747 Cargo Tech Stop
November 18th, 2009 ~ No Comments
Prince George, BC, Canada – At approximately 0835 hrs Tuesday the first 747 cargo aircraft, using Prince George as a fuel stop, touched down at YXS.

The Boeing 747-200f aircraft operated by Southern Air Inc, enroute to Caracas, Venezuela from Shanghai, China glided effortlessly onto the 11,450 ft runway in front of media, dignitaries and community supporters.

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Blaze at NT Air

Written by Citizen staff
Saturday, 19 December 2009

The NT Air hangar at the Prince George Airport went up in flames on Saturday afternoon. (Citizen photo by Brent Braaten) Related Items

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Local firefighters and RCMP are on the scene of a blaze at the Prince George Airport.
On Saturday afternoon, a fire started in the NT Air hangar and quickly engulfed the building. As of 4:20 p.m., there was no indication of the cause.


http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/2...at-nt-air.html
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This city has a 100 year history of great expectations that fail to manifest. Perhaps this time will be different.
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cape royds comment nails it perfectly i think.
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It sure will/is!!!
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^ you bumped a 2 year old dead-thread to add a +1 ??
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It sure will/is!!!
It would be nice if Prince George was able to take traffic away from Anchorage. However they have a way to go.......

Looking at arrivals over the past week: http://flightaware.com/live/airport/...time;sort=DESC

Lots of regional passenger flights from Vancouver. A weekly WestJet flight to Mexico. Some small commuter flights or private aircraft to: Kelowna, Dawson Creek, Terrace, Fort Nelson, Kamloops, Fort St. Johns, Quesnel, Saskatoon and Calgary.

Unfortunately the airport authority has some work to do.
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