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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 4:39 AM
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last i checked the site was still a functioning parking lot but that was a few weeks ago
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As we know the Allegro is approved, and their website indicates they are 'preparing for the building'. After approval how long does it usually take to issue the contracts and for supplies to start arriving?
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As we know the Allegro is approved, and their website indicates they are 'preparing for the building'. After approval how long does it usually take to issue the contracts and for supplies to start arriving?
Totally depends.

Sometimes they are ready to go within days and in other instances there are a myriad of issues to be buttoned up, to begin construction.
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Developer may miss chance at $1 TriMet tract

Despite settling design issues, Allegro sale now may be a no-go
By peter korn
The Portland Tribune, Jan 25, 2008

Even in a depressed housing market, some deals may be just too good to pass up. For instance, how about this? A half-block of Goose Hollow property five blocks from downtown — for $1.

That’s how much the developers of the proposed 158-condominium tower called the Allegro arranged to pay TriMet for the property three years ago. It appears that in two weeks those developers will default on their deal with TriMet, leaving potential buyers lining up, hoping to get the same deal.

TriMet wants to sell the property, especially to a buyer who will build something for people who will use the underutilized MAX station near the site.

Feb. 10 is the closing date for the development agreement between TriMet and California developer M. David Paul and Associates.

By then, the developer needs to show it has obtained the necessary city permits and that it has sufficient financing to complete its proposed 20-story tower on Southwest 18th Avenue across from Lincoln High School.

But a November letter sent to TriMet by the developer makes clear that it isn’t going to meet the deadline. And it doesn’t sound as if TriMet is open to the idea of an extension.

“Our view is the way the agreement reads, it’s over after Feb. 10 if the conditions to close haven’t been met,” said Jillian Detweiler, TriMet senior planner.

The Allegro was the focus of neighborhood and City Hall attention in 2006, when questions were raised about its size and the transfer of development rights that made its size possible.

Neighborhood opposition changed the Allegro design, and forced a building considerably smaller than originally proposed.

Construction was supposed to have begun on the Allegro last summer, but never did. Paul Krueger of M. David Paul wrote TriMet that the slowdown in the condo and financial markets “makes it impossible to obtain reasonable financing on this type of development.”

Detweiler said that TriMet already has fielded inquiries from other developers. The $1 purchase price may be part of the reason. It was offered by TriMet, even though the property was appraised at more than $2 million in 2003, because of problems at the site, Detweiler said.

Anyone who develops the site is required by TriMet to produce 76 public parking spaces that were lost when the MAX line along Southwest 18th Avenue eliminated on-street parking.

Also, a large city sewer pipe runs beneath the site, and a developer will have to replace the pipe, estimated at a cost of $450,000.

Detweiler said this week that a new appraisal may come before attempts to sell the property again, and that given the state of the Portland condo market, a project that doesn’t depend on market-rate housing — such as a subsidized-housing building — might make more financial sense.

“These market cycles happen, but it’s a disappointment. There was a lot of energy by a lot of people put into this,” Detweiler said.

A lot of money, too. In his letter to TriMet, Krueger said that his company already had invested about $2.5 million in the Allegro.
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Bulky building brought FAR to fore

After the Allegro, transfers of air rights will get more scrutiny
By peter korn
The Portland Tribune, Jan 25, 2008

Some buildings can have an impact even unbuilt.

That may well be the legacy of the Allegro.

If TriMet refuses to grant the Allegro’s developer a deadline extension to finish designs and arrange financing, the project will not be remembered primarily as a proposed building that fell prey to a downturn in the condominium market.

Rather, it will be known as the building that forced city officials to take a closer look at how developers were buying and selling development rights.

The original design for the Allegro, approved by the city, was for a 21-story condominium tower and a 16-story tower next to it, by far the most massive building in its immediate Goose Hollow neighborhood, just west of downtown.

The Goose Hollow neighborhood association successfully appealed that approval, and eventually a smaller design was submitted and approved.

But it was the way the Allegro’s developers were able to increase the size of their initial proposed building that drew the attention of people in the Portland development community.

City code allows developers to buy, sell and trade certain development rights, called floor-to-area ratio.

Basically, a property is assigned a floor-to-area ratio, or FAR, which dictates the total floor space of any buildings constructed on site.

Land zoned for a 9-to-1 FAR can have the total floor space of the property’s building, regardless of height, be no more than nine times the size of the property’s dimensions.

If buildings go higher, they must be skinnier.

The Allegro site is zoned for a FAR of 9-to-1. But the developers wanted to build larger, so they made two deals to purchase unused FAR from two different sites.

They agreed to buy FAR from a small building in the Lloyd District, and they agreed to buy 105,000 square feet of FAR rights from TriMet for $1.4 million. TriMet was selling undeveloped air space above a transit mall near the Allegro site.

The two transfers were not illegal, but they went further than any previous transfers ever had attempted, according to city planning officials.

When the Portland City Council upheld the neighborhood association’s appeal of the Allegro’s original design, it instructed city planners to consider tightening the rules governing FAR transfers.

In fact, city planners met with a variety of people in the development community in early 2007 to address FAR, but no changes ever were made in city code.

The two most criticized pieces of the Allegro FAR transfer involved its long-distance exchange of development rights from one neighborhood to another, and the overall amount of FAR the Allegro acquired.

City code places no limit on how much FAR can be transferred to a site.

But neither scenario is likely to occur now, according to Jeff Joslin, land use manager with the Bureau of Development Services.

Joslin said that even without changes to city code, developers know that the city is unlikely to approve long-distance FAR transfers unless developers show a public benefit both from the receiving and sending sides.

Joslin said that since the Allegro, no developers have asked city planners for approval to transfer FAR from one neighborhood to another.

“I would say the word is out on the street,” he said.

And since the Allegro’s proposal, only one building has requested — and has received — city approval for a FAR transfer from central city sites.

Last year developer Tom Moyer was given approval to transfer unused air rights above his South Park Blocks Five property, behind the Fox Tower on Southwest Park Avenue and Taylor Street, to his South Park Blocks Four property, a block north on Park Avenue.

Block Four is to be a 35-story office building, thanks to the transfer of FAR from the Block Five property, on which will sit a city park.

The city’s design commission approved the transfer, Joslin said, because there was a clear public benefit in the form of the new park.

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This is a great site and has amazing potential.

It won't break my heart if the Allegro development group doesn't do this deal. When they won this project they looked like good guys although over time they just seem like greedy developers with a low level of commitment to his project.

I would be thrilled to see Tri Met offer the site to a better development team. We're going to live with this for 100 years so a delay of a couple of years is worth it if we get something really stunning and smart.
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^or something stunning and smart wont make it past the NIMBYs and a five story squat building will be built. I liked the design and the height. I just hope another developer can pull something off as equally good, if not better.
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$450k Sewer pipe replacement. Yiikes

I did not know about the sewer line replacement. $450k, that changes my perception of the $1 deal.
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2008, 5:15 PM
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The $1 sale price is way too low even with the sewer replacement. The $450,000 estimate might be an actual costs although there was and is a desire to puff up these extra costs so the $1 land sale seems better to the public. If the developer does below grade parking the actual costs of the sewer replacement goes down since most of the excavation costs are required for the garage in any event.

There are some site issues that should justify Tri Met selling the land for less than $1 although I suspect Tri Met can get way more than $1 for it if they look for new development partners.
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The site and height would really have complimented the civic well, and now the civic might look (sorta like big pink does) kind of homeless in a sea of 4-5 story buildings.
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Looks like M. David Paul the Allegro developer and Tri Met are about to fight it out in court. According to today's Tribune they are filing a law suit against Tri Met for $3.5 million for expenses and seemed to be throwing around huge lost profit numbers although it wasn't clear if the lost profit was part of the litigation.

I'm in Tri Met's corner on this one. The LA Developer is out of touch with Portland and loose with the truth. I would rather see Tri Met terminate the development agreement and get a stronger developer on board who will pay more for the site and actually build something good for the city.

I love the quote from M. David Paul that they would have made $50 million profit on this project had it gone ahead and Mark Edlen and others pointing out how inflated this number is.

I tried to open the Tribune site to copy the article but couldn't get the website to open this morning.
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2008, 7:49 PM
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^I agree, these people are creeps. Anyway, here's the story

Allegro builders sue TriMet on $1 sale

Developers, agency clash over missed deadline, lost profits
By peter korn
The Portland Tribune, Apr 22, 2008

One month after TriMet filed a court complaint seeking to terminate its deal to sell a half-block of Southwest Portland property to a California developer for $1, the developer and its partners have fired back by filing a lawsuit and asking for $53.5 million in damages.

The developers of the proposed Allegro condominiums claim that by not being able to follow through with their plans for a 158-unit building on Southwest 18th Avenue near Lincoln High School, they will lose an estimated $50 million in profits.

The suit also asks for $3.5 million in expenses that developers say they have incurred so far on the controversial project.

The deal between TriMet and the group formed by the developers, called Butler Block LLC, had a closing date of Feb. 10. By then, the developers were supposed to show they had secured all necessary permits and financing to complete the project.

But the developers told TriMet that the depressed condo and financial markets were preventing them from completing the financing arrangements on time.

According to Michael Simon, one of the attorneys representing the developers, the lawsuit hinges on whether the developers were entitled to a series of deadline extensions based on a provision in the original agreement with TriMet.

“There is a provision in the contract that basically says as long as Butler Block was acting in good faith, the deadlines do not apply,” Simon said. “We are relying on those provisions to say the deadlines have not expired.”
Some doubt profit claims

The developers’ claim that they are being denied $50 million in future profits throws new light on the original $1 sale of the property.

At the time of the sale, TriMet justified the price based on difficulties at the site. Any developer of the site would be required to replace an underground sewer pipe — estimated at about $500,000 — and put in underground parking — at an estimated cost of $1.6 million — to replace surface parking that will be lost.

TriMet officials originally said they were in favor of the Allegro partly because it would have stood right next to a light-rail station, which would have encouraged more MAX ridership.

Developers and planners contacted by the Portland Tribune said they considered the $50 million profit projection greatly inflated.

Mark Edlen, who has developed many of Portland’s largest projects, said he has never made $50 million in profits off a single residential building. “Not even close,” Edlen said.

Peter Finley Fry, a planning consultant on many Portland development projects, said that a profit of $15 million to $18 million probably would represent a good return on a building the size of the proposed Allegro — until the recent housing downturn, when even that profit would be unlikely.

Finley, who called the $50 million profit figure “not credible,” said that even in a normal condo market developers rarely saw profits above 20 percent of their costs.

“Basically 18 percent is a really good return, and 12 percent is bankable,” Fry said.

Condominium towers the size of the Allegro generally cost between $60 million and $80 million to build, according to housing experts.

Even assuming a high-end 18 percent profit margin, if the Allegro cost $65 million to build it would yield a profit of about $12 million.
Neighbors opposed early plan

The developers’ lawsuit says that TriMet was pressured to not extend the development agreement deadline by the Goose Hollow Foothills League, the area’s neighborhood association, and owners of an adjoining property site.

The neighborhood association successfully appealed an early design proposed for the Allegro because it involved transfers of development rights from other properties that would have allowed the Allegro to grow beyond its zoned size.

Jerald Powell, chairman of the neighborhood association planning committee, called the suit against TriMet “very audacious.”

“Everybody in town knows about it,” Powell said. “I think it’s been perceived as suspicions confirmed. We’re not dealing with an enterprise that’s looking to do business in Portland. We’re looking at someone who is interested in bullying the people who are interested in doing business in Portland.”

In Powell’s estimation, the Allegro’s developers simply lost their building because the market turned sour on them. And that, Powell said, is the cost of doing business.

“The reason developers get big profits when they make a profit is because they often lose money or break even,” Powell said. “Developing big buildings is a risky business. You get paid for taking the risk, and sometimes you lose.”

Powell said that he thought the TriMet property was worth between $1 million and $3 million. TriMet officials said they already have been contacted by other developers interested in the property.

Fry said the Allegro’s contorted history, and the new lawsuit, were bad for the city.

“I think it’s sad that instead of us building a brand-new building next to a transit station, all the money is being spent on litigation,” Fry said.
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^ 50 mil profits?! I hope Trimet's lawyers show up to court and just laugh hysterically. Talk about sore losers... their building fell through when the condo market crashed, and now they are trying to make their money back by claiming huge losses hoping Trimet will settle out of court... what absolute trash.
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Being a developer ( large or small) is all about risks...and developers all over the city have projects stalled in design or at the end of construction documents, have spent up to millions in fees and they either move ahead or they stop and often lose their investment.

Tri Met shouldn't be obligated to reimburse these developers when the developers couldn't or didn't make the project work. When the project was sold to Tri Met the project was a rental project and I don't think they can claim that there hasn't been a rental market. I think the developers switched to condos and they decided to pile on the FAR and fight the neighborhood and the City. They lost the fight, they lost time and they missed the market.
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I sincerely hope these developers never attempt to do business in Portland again. They fail to understand the local real estate market while pursuing their project and then sue our public transit agency because of their own mistakes. What a bunch of losers.
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