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Old Posted Apr 9, 2014, 5:30 AM
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Piecora's sold their building. It's a little different than being unlucky.

Anyway they can go anywhere, or at least anywhere that doesn't mind pizza exhaust. No need for a low-density building.
I liked Piecora just the way it was. Not everything has to be high density.
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Old Posted Apr 10, 2014, 6:06 AM
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I went by there this morning. It's being painted a dark green color.
Yeah, you're right........except I think its a dark gray; not green. Definitely an improvement over that beige color.

As it turns out, its both gray and green.

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I liked Piecora just the way it was. Not everything has to be high density.
I've been inside there only once. I don't remember very much about the interior. Is it nostalgic? Hopefully they'll be able to just move to a temporary place once the design-permit process is done and then move back in the new building.
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2014, 1:34 AM
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I've been inside there only once. I don't remember very much about the interior. Is it nostalgic? Hopefully they'll be able to just move to a temporary place once the design-permit process is done and then move back in the new building.
I liked the pizza and the inside was typical Seattle funk.........ugly but cool at the same time. Its why I like Seattle........good food and who gives a f-ck what the place looks like. It was fun........a few years back, when I was in grad school, we would go there after class.

Its gone for good. The owners have sold out and it won't reopen.

I am all for new construction and increased density.........but Seattle is one of the few cities in this country that has a heart and soul. And I don't want to lose that........nothing is worth that loss. IMO.
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Yea, I think I know how you feel. Walking down Pine St last Friday I felt like I was in an emerging Kirkland. The old shops are almost all gone and almost everything is new or recent (2 - 3 yrs old) and "hipster".
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2014, 4:37 PM
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Yea, I think I know how you feel. Walking down Pine St last Friday I felt like I was in an emerging Kirkland. The old shops are almost all gone and almost everything is new or recent (2 - 3 yrs old) and "hipster".
Exactly. There needs to be a balance.....hipster is fine but I don't want to lose all that is unique to Seattle. There is a hole in the wall joint in Ballard.....called Mike's..........its essentially a greasy spoon sports bar with a crummy jukebox.........but it has the best chili and all the fries are real fries......not the frozen, regurgitated kind. Another place my friends and I like to hang out at. These kind of places are endangered with all the new construction because they need a low rent to survive.

As far as Pine goes, I don't know what to say. It looks terrible. I think the loss of Bauhaus is a crime. That was one of my favorite corners of Seattle.......people sitting out, reading, chatting, smoking, etc. Gone.

At the same time, I like what's happening to Broadway...the urban feel of it.......but then Broadway was never that unique.

I think we may be moving just a bit too fast and need to slow down. I know that's blasphemy for this kind of forum.....but the loss of Piecora kind of hit a chord with me.
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I like the pace of infill but I think the slow culprit is City Council. They take waaaaaaaay too long to do anything, and then end up restudying it when no study is needed! For instance, primarily national and international retailers can afford new large retail spaces. Fix? Pass regulation requiring small spaces. Some developers (most of them out-of-town companies) don't like it? Too bad. Did City Council ever get this done? I know community people have been pushing for it for a couple of years at least.

I'd also love to see more woodsy/rustic design elements encouraged.
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Um Bauhaus isn't gone, it moved across the street. It'll move back to its original location after that development is finished. Bill's off Broadway will also return. I'm trying to think of what businesses have actually left on pine. As far as I can see they're adding businesses and replacing parking lots and dilapidated buildings with more density. Three20 may not be the most attractive but it's a huge improvement over the Marion apartments. Actually when I moved here pike/pine was a dump. I can't wait to see it lined with dense 6-8 story residential buildings.
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Didn't see this on page 1; please excuse if its a redo.


New Renderings For Saltworks, Ballard's Creativity Incubator


Friday, April 11, 2014, by Sean Keeley



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Old Posted Apr 12, 2014, 4:04 PM
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What's interesting about this one is the developer is choosing to build more affordable housing.

Seattle Builder Aims Low

Spectrum Is Building Three Apartment Buildings in Seattle



http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...&mg=reno64-wsj
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Old Posted Apr 12, 2014, 4:09 PM
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I like the pace of infill but I think the slow culprit is City Council. They take waaaaaaaay too long to do anything, and then end up restudying it when no study is needed! For instance, primarily national and international retailers can afford new large retail spaces. Fix? Pass regulation requiring small spaces. Some developers (most of them out-of-town companies) don't like it? Too bad. Did City Council ever get this done? I know community people have been pushing for it for a couple of years at least.
I am hoping that the Council will become more responsive now that we have districts.

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What do you mean.......could you give some examples?
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Um Bauhaus isn't gone, it moved across the street. It'll move back to its original location after that development is finished. Bill's off Broadway will also return. I'm trying to think of what businesses have actually left on pine. As far as I can see they're adding businesses and replacing parking lots and dilapidated buildings with more density. Three20 may not be the most attractive but it's a huge improvement over the Marion apartments. Actually when I moved here pike/pine was a dump. I can't wait to see it lined with dense 6-8 story residential buildings.
There were a number of small places that are gone now. The only particular one I can remember is B&O Expresso. It moved to Ballard and was supposed to move back when a particular bldg was finished. Couldn't make it in Ballard and its now closed permanently. Those dilapidated bldgs you hate provide inexpensive retail spaces and affordable apts.

And when was Pike ever a dump?
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West Seattle development, mapped: 3,272 units planned, under construction, almost done, recently opened…

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What Slowdown? Eight Housing Markets That Are Speeding Up

by Ellen Haberle | April 8, 2014

Population Growth and Low Inventory Drive Competition for Homes

While the housing market has cooled in many major cities since last year, other cities have only gotten hotter. In certain areas of Texas, North Carolina, Colorado and the Pacific Northwest, homes are selling like hotcakes thanks to strong job and population growth, worsening inventory shortages and, as Redfin’s CEO pointed out in December, relative affordability. Buyers should prepare themselves: These markets are shaping up to be even more competitive than they were in 2013.

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Except Marion apartments was entirely empty, except for meth addicted squatters and graffiti taggers. B&O closed but broadcast opened about 2 blocks from where B&O was. Broadcast has much better coffee in my opinion. Unfortunately some of our favorite businesses close, but fortunately new ones are always opening. Despite what everyone says very few chains are opening on Capitol Hill outside of broadway.
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Except Marion apartments was entirely empty, except for meth addicted squatters and graffiti taggers. B&O closed but broadcast opened about 2 blocks from where B&O was. Broadcast has much better coffee in my opinion. Unfortunately some of our favorite businesses close, but fortunately new ones are always opening. Despite what everyone says very few chains are opening on Capitol Hill outside of broadway.
I am not an enamored with the quality of the construction and the retail trend I see on Pine. I like what's happening on Pike and Broadway.........Pine not so much.
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I think the stuff on pine east of Broadway is nice, and I like the one by the dog park and the red one next to three20. What's wrong with the retail trend? With the exception of world of beer it's mostly locally owned businesses. I'm optimistic about the 3 large developments and the smaller one above bill's.
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I think the stuff on pine east of Broadway is nice, and I like the one by the dog park and the red one next to three20. What's wrong with the retail trend? With the exception of world of beer it's mostly locally owned businesses. I'm optimistic about the 3 large developments and the smaller one above bill's.
Actually, I was talking Pine west of Broadway. I like Pine east of Broadway. I think its much better.
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Yeah three20 (which I happen to live in) and the other one with world of beer do look cheap. Doesn't bother me too much though, when the height limits are raised to 160-240' feet some time in the 20s they'll be the first to go. Besides world of beer I like the retail trend. Melrose market is great.
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This article says it like I feel about the closing. However, there may be hope.......one owner said she might reopen in another location.


Capitol Hill pizzeria closing after owners sell to developer


By Lindsay Cohen Published: Apr 15, 2014 at 5:58 PM PDT Last Updated: Apr 15, 2014 at 6:43 PM PDT


SEATTLE -- A longtime Seattle restaurant will serve its final meal this week, after the owners sold their property to one of the largest apartment ownership groups in the country.

Piecora's pizza, at 1401 E Madison St., closes Tuesday night after 32 years on Capitol Hill. The restaurant opened in 1982, serving New York-style pizza to a west coast crowd.

"It's very surreal," said restaurant manager Tim DiJulio, after letting in a crowd of people who had lined up outside the restaurant before opening. "There's a family atmosphere here that you can't put a finger on. It's hard to put into words."

DiJulio, who has been at the restaurant for two decades, said the pizzeria had been overwhelmed by customers since announcing of the closure.

"I wanted to be here one more time and to say goodbye," said Bob Riley, as he waited for a cheese pizza during Tuesday's lunch hour. "It's bittersweet. I'm really happy for the family. I don't blame them at all for what they're doing - the economics of it - but I'm really sad to see this place go."

Chicago-based Equity Residential bought the property that houses Piecora's and a tattoo parlor for a reported $10.3 million earlier this month.

"It's a big thing but this is where (the neighborhood is) going," added DiJulio. "You go back to New York; SoHo's not what it was. The Village is kind of not what it was. Ballard isn't even to me what it was."

"I'm happy for what they've achieved but I'm sad they're leaving. It's my favorite place for a pizza," added Mark Stepich of Madrona, who came for Tuesday lunch but also bought a second pizza to save.

"I'm going to freeze this for my brother-in-law. He's in LA. He's got this place on speed dial," joked Stepich. "He's going to owe me serious to not consume this immediately."

The restaurant planned to stay open until 9 p.m. Tuesday night and then have a private party for staff and regulars. One of the owners said she wasn't ruling out reopening in another location in the future.

"This to me is an icon. Losing Piecora's is a really big blow," added Riley, "and it scares me for so many other institutions around here."

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/C...255421691.html

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