Carmen's Hotel/Condo | ? | 44 fls | Proposed - Page 2

matt602 · #21 Posted **Jul 20, 2012, 11:08 PM**

I'm gonna agree with what's being said. I really hope council isn't going to get duped into this junk.

realcity · #22 Posted **Jul 21, 2012, 7:02 AM**

That powerpoint is a very good, very compelling position. If I was council, I would have a difficult time to NOT give the HCC to Carmens.

thistleclub · #23 Posted **Jul 21, 2012, 11:56 AM**

FWIW, the Mercantis were 2010 campaign donors to Mayor Bratina, Councillor Farr, Councillor Merulla, Councillor Morelli, Councillor Jackson and Councillor Whitehead.

Dwils01 · #24 Posted **Jul 22, 2012, 5:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by ihateittoo

I think this sums it up nicely.

Where is the Hamilton Grand?

Dr Awesomesauce · #25 Posted **Jul 22, 2012, 10:00 AM**

^The list is very, very long, my friend; the Grand is just the tip of the iceberg.

More than anything, I'm pissed at the Spec for running this story. A story, incidentally, with absolutely no legs whatsoever. I suppose I could go to the Spec and say that I'd like to build a 24K gold pyramid downtown and that all I need is a few investors and they'd run it on the front page the next day. Truly craptacular.

I excuse people new to Hamilton for frothing at the mouth, but born and bred Hamiltonians should know better. Did somebody really utter the letters MGM? Let's not forget what planet we're on. We'd be lucky to get MSG.

thistleclub · #26 Posted **Jul 22, 2012, 11:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by pEte fiSt iN Ur fAce

I excuse people new to Hamilton for frothing at the mouth, but born and bred Hamiltonians should know better. Did somebody really utter the letters MGM? Let's not forget what planet we're on. We'd be lucky to get MSG.

MGM probably gets mentioned in conjunction with "Vegas-style" because they own 40% of that city's gaming industry. It and other publicly listed corporations run 21st century Las Vegas. Icons like the Sands and Caesars are no exception.

But yes, this proposal seems unlikely to materialize.

The Spec has always swallowed this kind of bait without thinking, so it's kind of an historic tradition. Long before naïve boosterism took the city by storm, the Spec was there wearing metropolitan myopia on its front page above the fold.

SteelTown · #27 Posted **Sep 19, 2012, 5:46 PM**

City staff wants council to give the go ahead for Carmen's to operate the Convention Centre.

http://www.hamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyres/...Audit_Revi.pdf

durandy · #28 Posted **Sep 25, 2012, 9:03 PM**

time to see if the Mercantis can back up their bluster. I'm betting that 44 story tower was pure fantasy, but let's see if they can get rid of the subsidy as promised.

matt602 · #29 Posted **Sep 26, 2012, 12:29 AM**

I'm absolutely certain it was pure fantasy. I'll be shocked if anything at all is built downtown by them, let alone a 44 story building.

CaptainKirk · #30 Posted **Sep 26, 2012, 5:04 AM**

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When Carmen's bid to run the convention centre, it also proposed a 440-room hotel downtown, which would include 150 condo units and three restaurants. The company has chosen five possible locations for the development, said chair Peter Mercanti.

“It will happen and it will be something the city can be proud of,” he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/stor...hecfi-bid.html

Dr Awesomesauce · #31 Posted **Sep 26, 2012, 11:23 AM**

Why stop at 440 rooms? Let's make it an even 5,000. I'd say that's just as realistic.

SteelTown · #32 Posted **Jan 14, 2013, 2:37 PM**

Developer Mercanti wants to address council on Hamilton casino plan

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...on-casino-plan

Businessman PJ Mercanti is asking to speak to councillors at a future meeting to discuss his proposal for a casino.

The delegation will include business leaders, developers, education professionals and an executive from the gaming company.

As well as a casino, Mercanti says his proposed facility could include a hotel, gaming, a restaurant, night life, live shows, luxury retail and a museum.

SteelTown · #33 Posted **Jan 14, 2013, 3:03 PM**

Will be revealed on Feb 6 during the General Issues Committee.

Dr Awesomesauce · #34 Posted **Jan 15, 2013, 2:02 PM**

The museum of...what exactly?

It seems like every proposal in this city involves a museum.

bluevue · #35 Posted **Jan 15, 2013, 2:17 PM**

move the CFL Hall of fame? Increase traffic as a destination. I don't recall the new stadium incorporating it. I think the current location is too 'hidden' and should have a prominent street front. Just my 2 cents.

SteelTown · #36 Posted **Jan 15, 2013, 2:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by pEte fiSt iN Ur fAce

The museum of...what exactly?

It seems like every proposal in this city involves a museum.

Pretty sure it's the Canadian Music Hall of Fame. Fits nicely with the rumoured Hard Rock Casino.

realcity · #37 Posted **Jan 15, 2013, 3:21 PM**

^ I like that idea.

or perhaps a Canadian Comedy Museum, also goes well with stand up acts at a live venue.

matt602 · #38 Posted **Jan 15, 2013, 10:45 PM**

That doesn't sound like a bad idea but at the same time, I can't imagine it being much more of a tourist destination than the CFL museum already is.

bluevue · #39 Posted **Jan 16, 2013, 2:16 PM**

on the destination front, I was thinking more local traffic...I can't recall the last time I went to the CFL HOF (15 years)? But as part of the Casino, it may get increased natural traffic from those coming to play (tourists or locals coming in for the day etc.) Music HOF also a great idea...good boost to get the Juno's back here.