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Old Posted Oct 1, 2017, 3:29 PM
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As much as I love USports the Panda Games are 95% students only going to yell shit at the other school. I ended up walking down Bank after the game and it was a sea of students from both schools. There's more interest in supporting your school/yelling at the other school than there is actual interest in football.
There is a lot of that at every university football game I've attended. Many of these people have never attended a football game in their lives and don't know the rules. It was on full display when Ottawa kicked a game tying field goal to end the 4th quarter and their fans rushed the field thinking the game was over.

It may largely be bandwagon support but this is how one builds interest in U Sports, the sport of football, and the CFL. Many will attend next year, may start paying attention to other regular season games, and/or try the RedBlacks.

A football culture develops over generations and it's big events like the Panda Game that are important in spreading the sport. Now if only we could get 7-8 other hyped matchups each season and then grow from there. We may never have anything that approaches the level of support a Notre Dame or Ohio State garner but we could one day get to a point where 20,000 at a U sports football game was quite common.

A good place to start: York - Toronto, Regina - Saskatchewan, Calgary - Alberta, Laurier - Waterloo, and McGill - Montreal. If Dalhousie ever re-instated football a cross town game featuring SMU and Dal would be a natural. If SFU ended their NCAA experiment and returned to the fold a SFU - UBC annual classic would be another.
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There's no reason why the Red and Blue Bowl couldn't develop into the equal of the Panda Game or bigger. Collectively there are 130,000 students at York and Toronto. Attendance is just a subway ride away. They'd have to bring aboard corporate partners and market it properly though. If it takes getting kids to go because it's part of the social calendar/an opportunity to party, so be it.

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Old Posted Oct 1, 2017, 3:53 PM
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A good place to start: York - Toronto, Regina - Saskatchewan, Calgary - Alberta, Laurier - Waterloo, and McGill - Montreal. If Dalhousie ever re-instated football a cross town game featuring SMU and Dal would be a natural. If SFU ended their NCAA experiment and returned to the fold a SFU - UBC annual classic would be another.
I think Montreal are rivals with Laval. Regina and Sask got a crowd of 16.5k for opening the lower deck at the first test game at Mosaic.
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"It appears that at least six CPL teams — in Hamilton, Edmonton (currently in the NASL), Ottawa (USL), Winnipeg, Regina and, most noteworthy, Halifax — could be ready to go next year. Respected soccer websites such as Waking the Red are treating that central half-dozen as very real."[Source]

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"Beyond Hamilton and Winnipeg, Halifax, Moncton and Regina - who hosted a friendly between Spanish side Valencia and the New York Cosmos at Mosaic Stadium in July and a CPL summit at the same time - look to be furthest along the line in their pursuit of a CPL team."

"Saskatoon, Ottawa, Edmonton, Calgary, Victoria, Quebec City, the Fraser Valley, Mississauga, London and Kitchener-Waterloo have also been linked with clubs to varying degrees."[Source]


"And there are supporters groups in Calgary, Fraser Valley, B.C., Halifax (Wanderers), Kitchener-Waterloo, Ont. (Grand River Union), London, Ont., Mississauga, Ont. (Sauga City Collective), Quebec City, Regina (Pile O Bones), Saskatoon (Bridge City Firm) and Toronto.

Fans in Edmonton and Ottawa are watching to see whether FC Edmonton (North American Soccer League) and Ottawa Fury FC (United Soccer League) remain with their current leagues.

“It’s not just about ‘my local club in Winnipeg,’ it’s also about the good of the game across the country,” said Beirne.

The CPL is still in its formative stages, with 10 employees. But it has been sanctioned as a member of the Canadian Soccer Association, as have teams in Winnipeg and Hamilton." [Source]

I haven't seen any concrete commitment from sponsors but there'll of course be some desire for shirt sponsors and general league sponsors. I know the joke/half-hope was that Keith's would be the Halifax club's shirt sponsor, but I don't know how much validity there was in that and was most likely tongue-in-cheek. I imagine the sponsors, presumably like the league itself, will be more regional in nature instead of vast national brands. Remains to be seen.
I wonder where a Fraser Valley team would play. Only kind-of sizable venue I can think of there is Rotary Park in Abbotsford, but it might only seat like 1,000-2,000 people. My natural assumption would have been to get a team playing out of Swangard again.
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I wonder where a Fraser Valley team would play. Only kind-of sizable venue I can think of there is Rotary Park in Abbotsford, but it might only seat like 1,000-2,000 people. My natural assumption would have been to get a team playing out of Swangard again.
TSS Rovers of the USL PDL play out of there now and get about 800-1000 per game.
I think it would need to be Abbotsford for them to get the 3-5K per game I think they need.
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I think it would need to be Abbotsford for them to get the 3-5K per game I think they need.
I agree, and I think the rumour passing around was Abbotsford as well.
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Canada's Ellie Black captures silver in all-around gymnastics final
Nova Scotian finishes an agonizing 1/10th of a point away from gold
Kelsey Patterson The Canadian Press Oct 06, 2017

Halifax's Ellie Black was all smiles on Friday despite coming agonizingly close to making history.

Black won silver at the artistic gymnastics world championships, losing out to new all-around champion Morgan Hurd of the United States by just .101 points.

The 22-year-old would have become the first Canadian to win gold at the worlds.

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"I'm standing here with the silver medal, so I'm pretty happy with that," said an upbeat Black. "There's ups-and-downs in gymnastics, there are mistakes that are made. It's part of the sport. There's probably a bunch of athletes who would love to be in my position right now.

"I just feel so fortunate to have had this opportunity and to be here tonight."

Hurd, making her world championships debut, took home the gold with a final score of 55.232 points. She narrowly beat out Black, who had 55.132 points. Russia's Eremina Elena, with 54.799 points, finished third.

Brooklyn Moors of Cambridge, Ont., finished 15th with 51.965 points.

Historic result

The medal is Canada's first at the artistic gymnastics world championships since 2006, when Kyle Shewfelt (floor) and Elyse Hopfner-Hibbs (balance beam) each won bronze.

"It's incredible to go out there and have that performance in Montreal in front of our friends and family and fans," said Black, the five-time Canadian champion. "It was just an amazing night.

"There was a little more nerves because you want to have such a great performance in your home country, but it made it so much more exciting and so much more fun. It's a memory we're never going to forget."

The sold-out crowd of nearly 11,000 at Montreal's Olympic Stadium cheered Black and Moors every step of the way.

"It's such an honour to be competing with such amazing girls," said Moors, who was awarded the elegance prize at the end of the competition. "And the home crowd was amazing.

"I didn't set any expectations for myself. I went in and just tried my hardest."

Costly mistake on beam

Black began the finals with a 14.600 on the vault and a 14.233 on the uneven bars. She scored a 12.866 on the beam, after losing her balance on a few occasions. Those dropped points ended up costing her the gold.

Despite a less than perfect performance on the balance beam, Black entered the final discipline in first place, two tenths of a point ahead of Hurd.

"I knew what the general idea was going into the last rotation," said Black. "But I try not to focus on that because the only thing I can control is the routine I was going to put out there.

"I had a mistake on beam, and in the sport of gymnastics it always comes down to tenths. It wasn't a perfect day for anyone here."

Hurd comes through on floor exercise

The 16-year-old Hurd performed first in the floor exercises, scoring a 13.733.

Black needed a 13.534 or better on the floor to win gold, but she earned a 13.433 instead.

"It's crazy that I was even competing here," said Hurd, who finished sixth in all-around after qualifications. "To think that I won is just the most surreal feeling in the world."

Black has a chance to win more medals over the weekend as she is also competing in three individual finals: vault, balance beam and floor exercises.

Moors (floor) and teammate Shallon Olsen (vault) are also in the running for medals in the individual finals on Saturday and Sunday.

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Old Posted Oct 8, 2017, 4:04 PM
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^^ It's a tremendous achievement for Black. Canada has never produced a female gymnast that could challenge for an all around medal. I hope she sticks around for Tokyo but another 3 years may be too much to ask for. Most of her competitors will be teenagers.

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I think Montreal are rivals with Laval. Regina and Sask got a crowd of 16.5k for opening the lower deck at the first test game at Mosaic.
Quite right so U Sports aren't starting from zero. In most cases one would need cities with 2 cross town rivals as university students tend not to travel to other cities for games.
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Quite right so U Sports aren't starting from zero. In most cases one would need cities with 2 cross town rivals as university students tend not to travel to other cities for games.
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