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Old Posted May 3, 2012, 11:35 PM
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Anyone think that the entire building (not including the spire) will be done before August?
     
     
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Anyone think that the entire building (not including the spire) will be done before August?
Right now we are looking like 1 wtc will be top out by either late June or early July and the spire will take around six months to erect, so by my estimates 1wtc should top out with out no weather delay by late June or early July and 1 wtc should be completed by december 2012 or January 2013
     
     
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Old Posted May 3, 2012, 11:51 PM
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Nice. I'm so exited.
     
     
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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 12:01 AM
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Otie and others who know more about the project are saying that the parapet will be 1,368 ft, but the real roof height will be around 1,330 ft. I don't really know why, but that's the way the PA wanted it.
You just can't show all the mechanical equipment to the world, the parapet of this tower serves as a visual hider of everything up there (catwalks, cooling towers, HVAC equipment, maintainance stuff, a permanent crane and other related stuff), it also serves as a protection against wind and other environmental elements. Its height is limited by the Window Washing Track.
Top of roof slab: 1334'-8"*
Top of parapet: 1368'-0"

*The roof slab is not completely flat, but slightly sloped to allow rain water access the water storage tanks located throughout the tower and down to the sub-grade infrastructure.


1 WTC | Roof slab view by Otie O'Daniel, on Flickr


1 WTC | Rooftop by Otie O'Daniel, on Flickr

In comparison, Four has a 44'-0" tall parapet.

Aerial view of Tower 3 & 4 by Otie O'Daniel, on Flickr

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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 1:32 AM
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You just can't show all the mechanical equipment to the world, the parapet of this tower serves as a visual hider of everything up there (catwalks, cooling towers, HVAC equipment, maintainance stuff, a permanent crane and other related stuff), it also serves as a protection against wind and other environmental elements. Its height is limited by the Window Washing Track.
Top of roof slab: 1334'-8"*
Top of parapet: 1368'-0"
Also keeping in mind that without the parapet, the roof height would still be higher than the roof slab height.



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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 1:59 AM
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View of West Street from the 92nd floor.


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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 3:35 AM
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You just can't show all the mechanical equipment to the world, the parapet of this tower serves as a visual hider of everything up there (catwalks, cooling towers, HVAC equipment, maintainance stuff, a permanent crane and other related stuff), it also serves as a protection against wind and other environmental elements. Its height is limited by the Window Washing Track.
Top of roof slab: 1334'-8"*
Top of parapet: 1368'-0"

*The roof slab is not completely flat, but slightly sloped to allow rain water access the water storage tanks located throughout the tower and down to the sub-grade infrastructure.


1 WTC | Roof slab view by Otie O'Daniel, on Flickr


1 WTC | Rooftop by Otie O'Daniel, on Flickr
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I understand, but it would have been great. if the roof slab was really 1,368 ft and the parapet the same height above it as it was initially. However, I now understand the purpose of the parapet. Wouldn't want that equipment to be expose to the elements.c
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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 4:32 AM
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Wow, this is great! Otie, I love your renders, so much so that I sent you a private message regarding them. Hope to hear back on it.
     
     
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i'm sorry, i know it is not exactly the topic where i should talk about it... but i was wondering something, as i see the pictures of WTC:

the memorial is currently like this:


you notice that there is nearly no grass at all on the place

Is it because memorial is incomplete ? or is it natural ?

as i see former concept pictures, it seems that there must have been more grass on the place...
     
     
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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 8:02 AM
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You know that's an old picture right? Anyway the amount of grass on the plaza now is basically it, the remaining area of the plaza waiting for fit out will just be pavers and trees.
     
     
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I understand, but it would have been great. if the roof slab was really 1,368 ft and the parapet the same height above it as it was initially. However, I now understand the purpose of the parapet. Wouldn't want that equipment to be expose to the elements.c
More like not exposed to the naked eye.



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The roof height would be the 1,401'5" figure if I am not mistaken. One could step out on the top of the ring if they pulled some strings and get quite a view. I will always say the roof on this one will be at 1,373 feet not 1339 feet since that is the highest technical enclosed point since it is still surrounded by the parapet. It is all up to that point a permanent part of the structure and serving a mechanical purpose for the structure as well which only continues to rise...
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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 11:56 AM
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I'd be very surprised to see all those omni antennas the diagram has. It would greatly simplify the rf environment inside that ring to require anyone needing omnidirectional coverage to use two or three directional units spaced around the ring. Possibly a lot of elements, since that would allow them to reuse the same frequencies multiple times.
I'm still thinking those dish like objects are going to be enclosures for a variety of antenna elements. There's no possibility they'd need dishes pointed evenly around the perimiter like that.
     
     
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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 2:36 PM
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Very beautiful photos

Do you know if they will make an observatory at the top of 1 WTC ????
     
     
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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 2:52 PM
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Very beautiful photos

Do you know if they will make an observatory at the top of 1 WTC ????
There will be an observation deck in One World Trade Center at the 100th, 101st, and 102nd floors.
     
     
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It is interesting to see (when you can because the weather has been such shit here in NYC) all the progress that has happened the last few days.

When the weather clears we may see most of the perimeter of the newest 2 floors will have been completed. Never have we seen them work in conditions like this before. We've not even been able to see the top of the tower the last 3 days. Their dedication is really showing right now!

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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 5:36 PM
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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 6:49 PM
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"You got the best view Carlos" The most steel yet for observation levels 100-102. 100 is at the top of the cocoon at 1,240' and 102 is the top row of beams at 1,266' 8''
     
     
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Old Posted May 4, 2012, 6:59 PM
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Very beautiful photos

Do you know if they will make an observatory at the top of 1 WTC ????


Not an outdoor observatory on the rooftop. That was determined a long time ago. However the indoor observation deck, as mentioned earlier will occupy 3 different floors, as opposed to the 1 floor on the original and that one on the rooftop.
     
     
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