NHL season 2017/2018 - Page 95

craner · #**1881** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 5:46 AM**

Damn I love watching Vegas play.

Bluenote · #**1882** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 6:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by khabibulin

Jets getting it done. A very impressive showing of speed, strength, skill and determination. And congratulations to Hellebuyck for the shutout and Vezina nomination! If they beat the Wild, they will surely be in tough next round. But I will enjoy this victory for now, and continue to be a loyal supporter of this team, win or lose.

I wouldn’t say next round will be tougher. THE wild are not some bottom dwelling team. They did have 101 point season. Preds lost to Avs. A wild card team amd the other games were pretty close for them. Vegas skimmed the series with LA by 1 goal games. LA was outshooting them in most. And LA was hogtied with a certain suspension for a key player.
When you compare how many shots the Jets dish out to the other teams moving on. It will come down to those teams goalies just like it came down to Dubnyk to keeping it closeish.

HomeInMyShoes · #**1883** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 2:29 PM**

Who put money on Vegas winning the Stanley Cup at the beginning of the season? Can I borrow a couple hundred bucks?

WhipperSnapper · #**1884** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 2:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pinus

Jets now up In the series 3-1!!!

Sorry, was that too immature???

No but, then "questioning" the maturity of your post was indeed immature and expected.

suburbanite · #**1885** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 3:02 PM**

Jets might be able to go all the way with the crosscheck-to-the-face strategy.

Bluenote · #**1886** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

Jets might be able to go all the way with the crosscheck-to-the-face strategy.

I almost started thinking Leafs fans had changed lol. Nope lol
And the wild could almost go all the way with punching people in the back of the knee to take them out as well. It was an accident between Morrissey and Stahl. Hence why Stahl didn’t make a big issue about it.
Either way one more game and it’s on to the next round. Let me know when the Leafs make Ron the next round.

suburbanite · #**1887** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 3:40 PM**

Once again you prove that you haven't watched hockey for longer than the two years that the Jets have actually been a competent team. An accident? He is staring directly at the principle point of contact (ie. Staal's neck) the entire time. Such a happy accident that my stick went exactly where I aimed it, oops! That's a 5 minute major if the ref doesn't have his head up his ass.

I don't have team bias when it comes to player discipline. I accept Kadri's suspension as a result of his dangerous behaviour and I want to league to continue to take it seriously and not be afraid to hand out suspensions just because it's the playoffs.

Berklon · #**1888** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 3:45 PM**

Wow... that's an obvious, blatant and purposely done cross-check to the face.
That's worthy of a suspension.

rrskylar · #**1889** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 3:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Berklon

Wow... that's an obvious, blatant and purposely done cross-check to the face.
That's worthy of a suspension.

So was the headbutt by Niederreiter thrown on Chariot at the end of the game....

jawagord · #**1890** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 4:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

Once again you prove that you haven't watched hockey for longer than the two years that the Jets have actually been a competent team. An accident? He is staring directly at the principle point of contact (ie. Staal's neck) the entire time. Such a happy accident that my stick went exactly where I aimed it, oops! That's a 5 minute major if the ref doesn't have his head up his ass.

I don't have team bias when it comes to player discipline. I accept Kadri's suspension as a result of his dangerous behaviour and I want to league to continue to take it seriously and not be afraid to hand out suspensions just because it's the playoffs.

A Gary Suter-ishly bad crosscheck, how the refs missed that is beyond comprehension, still it happens. What I didn't understand is why Boudreau didn't challenge the Jets goal, looked like Scheifele was offside to me, but I didn't see a good slow-mo replay of it to confirm.

JHikka · #**1891** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by jawagord

What I didn't understand is why Boudreau didn't challenge the Jets goal, looked like Scheifele was offside to me, but I didn't see a good slow-mo replay of it to confirm.

Because Scheifele was onside.

Morrissey's cross-check was brutal and I hope he gets a game for it. No way you can claim that's an accident without watching it with massive partisan blinders on. The NHL's been pretty good with disciplining dangerous action this playoffs, so we'll see if it continues.

khabibulin · #**1892** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 6:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Because Scheifele was onside.

Morrissey's cross-check was brutal and I hope he gets a game for it. No way you can claim that's an accident without watching it with massive partisan blinders on. The NHL's been pretty good with disciplining dangerous action this playoffs, so we'll see if it continues.

During the regular season, suspensions take into account the previous conduct of the player under review. For example, a repeater offender like Marchand, would receive a longer suspension than a player who had never been suspended, and yet they may have done the exact same thing. I wonder if that consideration is valid during the playoffs?

JHikka · #**1893** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 6:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by khabibulin

During the regular season, suspensions take into account the previous conduct of the player under review. For example, a repeater offender like Marchand, would receive a longer suspension than a player who had never been suspended, and yet they may have done the exact same thing. I wonder if that consideration is valid during the playoffs?

Playoffs are always a lottery when it comes to these sorts of situations. AFAIK they take into account previous suspension/disciplinary history regardless of season or playoffs.

Morrissey has a hearing today for the cross check. If he had been ejected from the game he wouldn't have a hearing today. If he had been given a minor penalty then...maybe no hearing? It's always a mess. Either way, at this point Minnesota probably would have preferred the 5 minute PP given Winnipeg's depth on defense.

khabibulin · #**1894** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 6:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Playoffs are always a lottery when it comes to these sorts of situations. AFAIK they take into account previous suspension/disciplinary history regardless of season or playoffs.

Morrissey has a hearing today for the cross check. If he had been ejected from the game he wouldn't have a hearing today. If he had been given a minor penalty then...maybe no hearing? It's always a mess. Either way, at this point Minnesota probably would have preferred the 5 minute PP given Winnipeg's depth on defense.

Probably why Kadri got 3 games. He has been suspended twice and fined twice by the league, before his recent incident against Boston.

DoubleK · #**1895** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 7:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Morrissey has a hearing today for the cross check. If he had been ejected from the game he wouldn't have a hearing today. If he had been given a minor penalty then...maybe no hearing? It's always a mess. Either way, at this point Minnesota probably would have preferred the 5 minute PP given Winnipeg's depth on defense.

The NHL does not suspend for missed calls by officials.

JHikka · #**1896** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 7:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

The NHL does not suspend for missed calls by officials.

They don't, but if Morrissey had been given a 5+ejection for his cross check he almost certainly would not be having a hearing today with the NHL. Most would see that punishment as enough for the hit, but since he hasn't received any punishment yet the NHL will likely (or not, who knows) provide it via other means (fine, suspension).

jawagord · #**1897** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Because Scheifele was onside.

Morrissey's cross-check was brutal and I hope he gets a game for it. No way you can claim that's an accident without watching it with massive partisan blinders on. The NHL's been pretty good with disciplining dangerous action this playoffs, so we'll see if it continues.

Go to the 24 sec mark of the this clip and tell me again how Scheifele was onside? Is there a reverse angle clip somewhere that shows him onside?

http://www.nbcsports.com/video/winni...t-first-period

Jammon · #**1898** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 9:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Because Scheifele was onside.

Morrissey's cross-check was brutal and I hope he gets a game for it. No way you can claim that's an accident without watching it with massive partisan blinders on. The NHL's been pretty good with disciplining dangerous action this playoffs, so we'll see if it continues.

I hope that was a facetious comment, because the NHL Player Safety has been a joke. They miss obvious calls that don't result in any action and the whole series between Vegas and LA was questionable in the suspension they gave to Doughty. They took away LA's best defenceman for a game for a questionable call. Ridiculous. If you're going to make a statement for the playoffs, make sure it's the right one. Not to mention all the other missed infractions during the opening round of the playoffs.

https://thebiglead.com/2018/04/16/nh...absolute-joke/

TownGuy · #**1899** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 10:01 PM**

That missed cross-check might have cost the Wild the series. Good chance they would've had a 5 minute PP and some of that would've been 5 on 3 as they were on a PP when it happened. To add insult to injury the Jets scored soon after.

Wpg_Guy · #**1900** Posted **Apr 18, 2018, 10:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by jawagord

Go to the 24 sec mark of the this clip and tell me again how Scheifele was onside? Is there a reverse angle clip somewhere that shows him onside?

http://www.nbcsports.com/video/winni...t-first-period

Where was he offside? No question he had cleared the zone.

Another angle, he cleared the zone by a good 3 feet. The fact this is even in question is a testament to his speed that it's not easily picked up.