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Old Posted Jan 19, 2009, 9:33 AM
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of course something of this caliber required a non-taiwanese designer.

so cynical you.
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^maybe. i just haven't seen good work from local architects. unless you can point me to some...
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^maybe. i just haven't seen good work from local architects. unless you can point me to some...
as much as I hate CY Lee for all his ugly designs, he has one gem:

http://www.shangri-la.com/en/propert...areasternplaza
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^that's certainly one of the better looking highrises in taipei. but it's not really a standout either. well, for CY Lee it's exceptional, but from anybody else, it's allright.
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Kelti Headquarter
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as much as I hate CY Lee for all his ugly designs, he has one gem:

http://www.shangri-la.com/en/propert...areasternplaza
The Far Eastern was designed by Hong Kong architects P&T. Sorry, no gems!
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2009, 10:46 PM
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The Far Eastern was designed by Hong Kong architects P&T. Sorry, no gems!
it was a partnership with both, but the design was supposedly by CY Lee.

http://www.kawneer.com/kawneer/gsp/e...BrochureAA.pdf
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it was a partnership with both, but the design was supposedly by CY Lee.

http://www.kawneer.com/kawneer/gsp/e...BrochureAA.pdf
Come on, it's obvious the design was inspired by P&T's Exchange Square project in Hong Kong.

Exchange Square
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:On...nge_Square.jpg

Far Eastern
http://www.where2event.com/images/ve...24_遠東2.JPG
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kris yao of architect is a local architect. he designed hsinchu high speed station which is pretty nice. as well as some office buildings, apartments, and academic buildings.
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^i don't know. i'm not feeling any of the HSR stations. hsinchu is definitely an improvement, but not very original or inventive, and appears pretty impure in form. almost tacky once you get past the sleek roof and examine it closer. are there any young, kind of underground stars in taiwan?
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it was a partnership with both, but the design was supposedly by CY Lee.

http://www.kawneer.com/kawneer/gsp/e...BrochureAA.pdf
Didn't CY Lee design Taipei 101 and the tallest building in Kaosiung...the 76 storey one?
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Didn't CY Lee design Taipei 101 and the tallest building in Kaosiung...the 76 storey one?
yeah, but we're looking for examples with class along with artistic merit. CY Lee designed a ton of buildings in Taiwan, but most of them are pretty ugly. The Tuntex 85 in Kaohsiung is actually not bad.
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yeah, but we're looking for examples with class along with artistic merit. CY Lee designed a ton of buildings in Taiwan, but most of them are pretty ugly. The Tuntex 85 in Kaohsiung is actually not bad.
I do agree that Taipei 101 is really ugly...I guess he is trying to add that "Chinese" taste into his buildings. I've been to Taipei 101 and I never liked it.
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except that incorporating "chinese" taste in such a prosaic manner demonstrates a complete lack of depth and creativity.

it's crazy and i know china's got a much larger pool to draw from but it's still a shame how china's already got better artists and designers than taiwan does, considering the head-start taiwan's enjoyed
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I think this stadium lacks creativity and is much similar to the "Bird's Nest" in China!
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I think this stadium lacks creativity and is much similar to the "Bird's Nest" in China!
you're blind.
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except that incorporating "chinese" taste in such a prosaic manner demonstrates a complete lack of depth and creativity.

it's crazy and i know china's got a much larger pool to draw from but it's still a shame how china's already got better artists and designers than taiwan does, considering the head-start taiwan's enjoyed
china's got their fair share of terrible architects and tacky buildings. all of their '"world class" architectural buildings are designed by foreign architects, e.g., all the olympic venues, shanghai financial, jin mao, cctv tower, etc. just that the chinese govt.'s more willing to shell out big dough to hire those expensive foreign architects (for show) than the taiwanese govt. is.
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you're blind.
^lol

well, you're only talking about big commissions. but there are plenty of promising up-and-comer chinese architects. one example (one more than taiwan can offer as far as i can tell) is qingyun ma, dean of the USC school of architecture. not to mention the swarms of talent in the visual arts who up until recently were not getting large commissions. are there, at least, any "paper architects" generating buzz in taiwan right now?

culturally speaking, it seems as taiwan has become sort of an anti-cosmopolitan backwater, considering the advantages it should have.
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Oh...thanks.

Well, from certain angles...it is the same, except that open part, which is the part that makes it MORE INTERESTING than the BIRD'S NEST Happy?
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Oh...thanks.

Well, from certain angles...it is the same, except that open part, which is the part that makes it MORE INTERESTING than the BIRD'S NEST Happy?
uhh... honestly what angle are you talking about? this stadium looks nothing like the bird's nest. the birdnest is intentionally laid out to be messy looking, has a different shape, color, styling, and cladding. I highly suggest you google up what the Bird's Nest looks like first before posting in here.
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