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Old Posted Jan 4, 2018, 6:20 PM
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Where, where will it go?

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Meow Wolf website

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Rendering from Meow Wolf via Westword

Interesting news! I just happened to visit MeowWolf last week for the first time. Pretty trippy place. These guys really think outside of the box, pun intended. And for them to choose the dead space under the viaduct to build a site is genius. This will be a destination for sure.
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2018, 6:24 PM
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JFC. With all the empty lots in Arapahoe Square, with all the redevelopment or empty lot opportunities along Broadway (I'm looking at YOU, Mr. 2/3-of-a-square-block Sports Castle, and YOU, Little Miss 2/3-of-a-square-block parking lot hiding behind the Mayan Theater), with those and other juicy sites in central Denver where they could have added to and fed off of the vibrant street life, Meow Wolf chose an isolated, ugly chunk of solidified car exhaust for their home. Elsewhere on-line they stated that they chose the site because of its "...low impact urban infill" nature. Low impact indeed. Just goes to show, imagination is nothing without vision.
Seems like one of Meow Wolf's desires in a site is a nice surface parking lot that's adjacent to their building. Might be the same reason why they didn't end up in RiNo. However, Broadway and Arapahoe Square don't necessarily need an year-round attraction like Meow Wolf to get things going while Sunnyside really could benefit from such an attraction.
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2018, 6:42 PM
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Seems like one of Meow Wolf's desires in a site is a nice surface parking lot that's adjacent to their building. Might be the same reason why they didn't end up in RiNo. However, Broadway and Arapahoe Square don't necessarily need an year-round attraction like Meow Wolf to get things going while Sunnyside really could benefit from such an attraction.
Good points... Hadn't thought of it as somewhat of an anchor/assist for Sunnyside but that's just like wong to think outside the Box.

I'm sure they want this to be a destination with good access which I assume this will have. When you consider that Revesco Properties is involved you know that parking had to be a yuge consideration.
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2018, 6:51 PM
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To be fair, I think remote locations are kinda part of their Schick. The original in Santa Fe is nearly 4 miles outside of the historic center, surrounded by strip malls and parking lots on one of the worst "Stroads" I have ever seen (as an aside, northern New Mexico has some of the craziest, messiest, at-grade highways I have ever seen in the US - and for better or for worse, its part of the visual identity of that part of the state). They seem to want to be a destination - the sole reason a tourist would make a deliberate visit to that part of the city. And walkable urbanism doesn't seem to be on their radar of priorities.

That said, I'm not sure if any other development would ever have used that leftover scrap of land in quite such an interesting way. So as others have pointed out, it may ultimately be of help to Sunnyside even if that wasn't their intention.
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2018, 7:29 PM
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To be fair, I think remote locations are kinda part of their Schick. The original in Santa Fe is nearly 4 miles outside of the historic center, surrounded by strip malls and parking lots on one of the worst "Stroads" I have ever seen (as an aside, northern New Mexico has some of the craziest, messiest, at-grade highways I have ever seen in the US - and for better or for worse, its part of the visual identity of that part of the state). They seem to want to be a destination - the sole reason a tourist would make a deliberate visit to that part of the city. And walkable urbanism doesn't seem to be on their radar of priorities.

That said, I'm not sure if any other development would ever have used that leftover scrap of land in quite such an interesting way. So as others have pointed out, it may ultimately be of help to Sunnyside even if that wasn't their intention.
Yep - I can’t think of any other commercial activity that could maximize that space compared to MeowWolf. I realize the hope that it could be configured into an urban, walkable community, but the size and scale doesn’t lend itself to being tucked into a storefront. As was previously suggested; the old Sportscastle on Broadway is a neat building, but how will everyone access it? Keep in mind; people will come from all over the place to experience it; probably more than 1K per day in ticket sales. I can’t even find a place to park on Broadway right now; can you imagine hordes of commuters coming down from Wyoming, the foothills, or Aurora?

Bottom line, this place needs parking and access to light rail, which this place has. Plus, the drawing shows the building suited above grade on the surrounding arteries.. I25, Colfax, Auroria Parkway. Can you imagine how many people will drive by this place on a daily basis and look into the windows filled with strange lights, sculptures, and crazy art? It will advertise itself. I’m just glad they chose Denver and not Aurora since this place will be one of the top tourist draws in the city, without a doubt.

I’ll be curious whether it makes further redevelopment likely on the Platte River throughout SunnySide? Wasn’t there plans to do something with that old power plant just south of there?
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Seems like one of Meow Wolf's desires in a site is a nice surface parking lot that's adjacent to their building. Might be the same reason why they didn't end up in RiNo. However, Broadway and Arapahoe Square don't necessarily need an year-round attraction like Meow Wolf to get things going while Sunnyside really could benefit from such an attraction.
Slight correction: That area is adjacent to Sun Valley, not Sunnyside. In any event, that location would not likely be used for anything else and it will help create some draw to the area. Especially with "Steam on the Platte" immediately south of them.
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Pretty trippy place. These guys really think outside of the box, pun intended. And for them to choose the dead space under the viaduct to build a site is genius. This will be a destination for sure.
For sure thinking out of the box (we're in dire need of different types of designs!) and plus the location is perfect and will help kick-start the new stuff in Sun Valley south of the Broncos stadium.
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For sure thinking out of the box (we're in dire need of different types of designs!) and plus the location is perfect and will help kick-start the new stuff in Sun Valley south of the Broncos stadium.
Yes the Sun Valley Ecodistrict (SVED) is planned for that entire area south of Colfax along the river:


And then there is the plan for a $350 million entertainment district led by the Broncos on the parking lots south of the stadium.
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Slight correction: That area is adjacent to Sun Valley, not Sunnyside. In any event, that location would not likely be used for anything else and it will help create some draw to the area. Especially with "Steam on the Platte" immediately south of them.
Whoops! My mistake in mixing up Denver's "Sun" neighborhoods.
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I heard CNBC gave Denver an 'F' for location? There's your eliminator.
It will be interesting to see, assuming they name a group of finalists, which cities and where they are located.
Not completely true, according to the Biz Journal, Amazon HQ2 would qualify for big tax incentives.

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/n...orado-tax.html
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2018, 9:30 PM
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Whoops! My mistake in mixing up Denver's "Sun" neighborhoods.
Eh, this time of year when I hear 'sun or sunny' my mind goes to beaches, Bossa Nova/jazz and Ipanema Beach.
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Whoops! My mistake in mixing up Denver's "Sun" neighborhoods.
That's ok bro, if I recall Sunnyside is northwest of Downtown even north of Highlands near 40th street west of the BNSF/UP mainline tracks (of course I moved away in April 2015 but I'm a former longtime resident and metro area native).

Btw looks like a nice high rise just south of Colfax viaduct in that Broncos development rendering..
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Slight correction: That area is adjacent to Sun Valley, not Sunnyside. In any event, that location would not likely be used for anything else and it will help create some draw to the area. Especially with "Steam on the Platte" immediately south of them.
This spot is awesome! I've always thought this was one of the last cool untouched areas immediately adjacent to downtown. With old Colfax dipping under the interstate, the river, and the random old warehouses & cool storefronts all bricked up. Its like a scene from a movie, and very few Denver residents even know it exists. Hopefully it'll create more interest in the area and a new center for art culture. (since rino has sold its soul)
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Not completely true, according to the Biz Journal, Amazon HQ2 would qualify for big tax incentives.

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/n...orado-tax.html
Exactly. This.

We don't know what incentives were put into the proposal yet. However, to say they were "small" I think is misguided. If it's hundreds of millions, then that puts us on par with other competitive cities vying for HQ2.
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That is an awesome shot of 1144! On the whole, I really love this building. There is something very regal about it. For me, it is easily the best designed skyscraper in the city. The only negatives I have would be: 1). I wish that it was located on a lot which showcased it more directly, as opposed to sharing the same lot with another comparably sized tower; and 2). I wish that there was some nighttime lighting on the crown. I like the vertical curtain lights but it seems incomplete without something on the top.
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Instantly one of my faves; fun perspective.

I have no idea how you did that but it's very impressive.
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This spot is awesome! I've always thought this was one of the last cool untouched areas immediately adjacent to downtown. With old Colfax dipping under the interstate, the river, and the random old warehouses & cool storefronts all bricked up. Its like a scene from a movie, and very few Denver residents even know it exists. Hopefully it'll create more interest in the area and a new center for art culture. (since rino has sold its soul)
Very true. I stop by Brooklyn's down there about once a summer in July. It always strikes me what a cool little piece of Denver history is down there on Old Colfax. So much empty land all around it too. I keep thinking somebody should sandblast the paint off those old 1-story retail structures and restore a working main street - of course it would require some infill and more day-to-day activity than the occasional event at Mile High. Hopefully the city recognizes the value of the few small historic structures that exist there, and the entire area doesn't end up getting razed (I'm not sure if it's a historic district or not, but it probably should be).
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Love these shots from the Denver Post stock show parade downtown yesterday.







https://www.denverpost.com/2018/01/0...w-parade-2018/
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^ Those are awesome shots. 112 years and counting.

I can look back to when the stock show was considering moving out to Aurora and my first reaction was fine since it looked to be too difficult and expensive to relocate within Denver. So glad that those who care about long-standing Denver traditions put their heads together and came up with a winning idea and proposal. Obviously I'm looking forward to the new National Western Center.

Friday Follies

DBJ has an easy to click through of the top ten states for in-migration according to United Van Lines. What I found interesting was the visual of where these states are. Here for clicks.

Tribal leaders, Colorado officials to confer amid Denver's Outdoor Retailer show
Interesting DBJ piece about the ongoing and potential benefits of stealing the Outdoor Retailer show from Utah.

Jet maker Airbus buys flight training center in Colorado
With respect to Denver International Airport things just keeping getting busier and economically better.
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