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Old Posted Sep 14, 2006, 12:32 PM
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Which cities are under rated in Europe ?

On different forums we always read about the same cities , I guess some do need more attention.

Some forgotten cities are in my opinion:

Wien (Vienna) - Lyon - Rome - Glasgow

Is there nothing happening over there or what

Who are your forgotten larger cities ?
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2006, 5:24 PM
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I guess they won't be mentioned here precisely because they are forgotten.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 12:52 AM
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 3:15 AM
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Riga, Lviv.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 6:56 AM
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There are literally hundreds of underrated cities in Europe, I wouldn't even know where to begin ... but Riga is definitely among them.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 12:50 PM
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Bucharest

I'm just back from Bucharest, and it's by no mean underrated. It's just the city isn't beautiful that's all.

It's a pity, because once in a (very) while you can see a nice building, but let's face it, there are 3 (4 at most) landmarks and that's it. The Romanian parliament, the mini Reichstag, the Roman Athaneum (and it's ugly) and the Arcul de Triumph (and it's ugly too).

Even in the city center, it's full of disgusting concrete building, wandering dogs, pimps proposing you massages and escort service (I didn't take any, just kept the card as a souvenir, let's say it's part of the experience, yeah I've been proposed one in front of the Hilton hotel there), underaged gyspie children begging etc....


Of all the city I've seen so far, Bucharest may be the one that suffered the most from it's socialist dictatorship. And by a damn good margin.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 2:33 PM
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Krakow! Authentic historic city with great restaurants and amazing architecture dating back as far as 900 AD. Can't wait to go back.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 4:32 PM
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pimps proposing you massages and escort service (I didn't take any, just kept the card as a souvenir, let's say it's part of the experience.
You're so boring....
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Wien (Vienna)....Rome
These cities are beautiful and historic but stagnant in terms of development - and this is a skyscraper forum after all. If you are a regular tourist you would more likely visit Rome or Vienna than Frankfurt. Rome probably gets more tourists than Chicago or Dubai too. However it's obvious why Frankfurt, Chicago, and Dubai get more attention than Rome or Vienna on a skyscraper forum.
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Krakow! Authentic historic city with great restaurants and amazing architecture dating back as far as 900 AD. Can't wait to go back.
But surely Krakow is not underrated? Krakow is famously beautiful and has become a very popular city break these days.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 6:08 PM
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Hamburg perhaps. The Hafencity's a pretty big project.
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Old Posted Sep 16, 2006, 1:32 PM
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Tbilisi , Yerevan & Baku
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Old Posted Sep 16, 2006, 2:01 PM
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Malmo is hopelessly forgotten in general. Though it get's quite a lot of attention here and on SSC (mainly because of TT).
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Old Posted Sep 16, 2006, 4:41 PM
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How boring. Why if the question is about "in Europe" then it's always something with western part of it?
Is somebody heard about Perm, Ufa, Nizhny Novgorod, Rostov On Don, Volgograd here? Kharkiv? These cities with more than 1 Mil people and they're located im Europe too actually. These are the most under rated cities in Europe!!
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Thats why I said "Yerevan, Tbilisi, Baku"...to screw with the little and limited minds of these "western europe"-centrists a bit
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2006, 3:48 AM
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Thats why I said "Yerevan, Tbilisi, Baku"...to screw with the little and limited minds of these "western europe"-centrists a bit
But location of these cities in Europe is disputed! Officially the border between Europe in Asia in this area by the Caspian Sea then Northern Caucasus and then the Black Sea...
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2006, 4:35 AM
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How boring. Why if the question is about "in Europe" then it's always something with western part of it?
Is somebody heard about Perm, Ufa, Nizhny Novgorod, Rostov On Don, Volgograd here? Kharkiv? These cities with more than 1 Mil people and they're located im Europe too actually. These are the most under rated cities in Europe!!
I've been to Nizhniy Novgorod. Unless it's changed dramatically, I'd say it's more or less correctly rated. It has some potential, but it's nowhere near most of the other cities mentioned here. I also spent about a week in Yekaterinburg, in the middle of winter. I liked the 20's architecture on Prospekt Glavniy/Lenina, and the setting around the lake is probably quite nice in summer, but other than that, unfortunately, I'd say it's unknown as a tourist destination for a reason. I also encountered more xenophobia in Yekaterinburg than anywhere else in Russia.

Based on what I've read, and pictures I've seen, none of the other cities you mention above are terribly underrated either. They were probably very nice at some point, but Soviet gradostroitel'stvo left them functional, though not especially charming.

I did quite enjoy Vologa and Yelets and some smaller towns, but given the red tape - and expense - you have to go through to get there, I'm not sure it's worth trying to visit unless you're already in Russia for other reasons. Just not very much bang for the buck.

Of course, this is just my opinion; no offense meant, these are just my impressions.
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2006, 6:51 AM
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I've been to Nizhniy Novgorod. Unless it's changed dramatically, I'd say it's more or less correctly rated. It has some potential, but it's nowhere near most of the other cities mentioned here. I also spent about a week in Yekaterinburg, in the middle of winter. I liked the 20's architecture on Prospekt Glavniy/Lenina, and the setting around the lake is probably quite nice in summer, but other than that, unfortunately, I'd say it's unknown as a tourist destination for a reason. I also encountered more xenophobia in Yekaterinburg than anywhere else in Russia.

Based on what I've read, and pictures I've seen, none of the other cities you mention above are terribly underrated either. They were probably very nice at some point, but Soviet gradostroitel'stvo left them functional, though not especially charming.

I did quite enjoy Vologa and Yelets and some smaller towns, but given the red tape - and expense - you have to go through to get there, I'm not sure it's worth trying to visit unless you're already in Russia for other reasons. Just not very much bang for the buck.

Of course, this is just my opinion; no offense meant, these are just my impressions.
Maybe I missed something.... Are we talking about tourist attraction here? OK let's say many Russian cities aren't good tourist destination, especially in winter. They just didn't try to be in such role yet (no infrastructure) But many things changing every year. So you talked about tourist attraction, I talked about economy and developing... If talking about tourism I would list another cities in European Russia (St. Petersburg, Vyborg, Pskov, Novgorod, Vladimir, Uglich, Anapa, Sochi, Gelendzhik, Kislovodsk, etc)
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OOOH, well that's different then. For economics and development, I'd say maybe Warsaw and even (someday) Minsk, given that they're on the main route from Russia to the rest of Europe. Odessa for similar reasons.
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Rostov On Don
Oh yeah I know that city and its famous citizen Andrei Chikatilo too
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