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Old Posted Sep 10, 2013, 5:23 PM
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Found the applicant's submittal for the Fashion Square expansion:

http://eservices.scottsdaleaz.gov/pl..._DR_2007_4.pdf

Not really a tall nor pedestrian friendly building. :/
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Old Posted Sep 10, 2013, 9:32 PM
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It's an indoor mall, designed for shoppers with cars to transport all their shopping bags back home. Why would it be pedestrian friendly?
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Sorry for the long post in advance.

Is that a serious question? Regardless of how the rest of the mall was designed and the behaviors it catered to at that time, it's totally justified to have expectations for better than what's been shown.

The changing demographics and built environment of downtown Scottsdale - both encouraged by the city itself through policies like their infill incentive program, general plan updates, etc. - have evolved to the point that density and height (to a much smaller scale than Tempe or Phoenix of course) are now acceptable and expected, along with urban-style design standards such as street-fronting retail and focus on pedestrian traffic vs. auto.

With all of that said, Fashion Square as it was has become completely outdated even in suburban locations that prefer faux urban a la Kierland/CityNorth/the one out in Gilbert or at least the TMP model. Though it's apparently too cost-prohibitive to make major renovations or tear down the main part, the last addition hinted at the management realizing this and trying to make updates. That addition was built right up to Scottsdale road, and included street-side entrances to the new restaurants and even into Barney's. As more and more urban-style (by that, I am focusing on being built to encourage travel by foot through street entrances, rather than being built behind a garage) residential is built in the area, planning a shopping project around the need to transport bags via car becomes more and more obsolete. Safari Drive, Waterfront, and Optima are all complete and in walking distance, Broadstone is under construction, and Blue Sky and Safari Drive II will hopefully be underway by the time this addition opens. You are also forgetting that the other feature of this addition is a move theatre - no bags resulting from a trip to the movies. I also don't think places like Rodeo Drive or, more reasonably, Mill Ave are worried about catering their businesses around the convenience of customers getting their things home.

While I wasn't expecting anything higher (2 stories had already been mentioned), I did expect a far less auto-centric addition. Even the opening statement of the letter describes the addition as being pedestrian-focused and helping to add to the urban vibe of downtown Scottsdale, so clearly that was their intent. And, because of that, it's absolutely relevant to assess how they've fared in reaching that goal - and, I am in complete agreement with Sean that they haven't impressed. I don't quite understand the renderings and how they relate to the blueprints, but I am not seeing any entrances aside from the circular/curved element that is hidden behind a parking lot. I rather like that element from a design perspective, and think it would've worked well as a semi-circle dropoff/valet area like at Waterfront.

The positives include filling in an unused surface lot, hiding a parking garage, and adding retail/entertainment to the area, but the negatives of essentially creating a massive deadzone across from what will be eventually filled with tons of residential and retail far outweigh them. Scottsdale, and Scottsdale Rd, are changing, and it's exciting to see so many projects underway that are making it into a really great experience and true city. Phoenix needs its Lincoln Parks, Brooklyns, Hillcrests, etc. It sucks that Scottsdale's brand of being the luxury market of the metro is hidden inside of an indoor mall. Visitors only get to experience the more kitschy side of the city, and I think having a shopping boulevard (whether that be Scottsdale Rd or the road that cuts through Waterfront) lined with entrances into Nordstrom, Barney's, etc. with smaller alleys lined with the restaurnts and smaller boutiques would improve the overall impression of it being a wild west tourist trap, and be interesting from a planning perspective, as I think there are some struggled with all of the change in figuring out how residential, shopping, nightlife/entertainment can fit together, and how they can complement the museums and older parts of the city instead of replacing them.

The core part of Fashion Square really does the city an injustice from that perspective, though I am sure they are just satisfied with the revenue it brings in. I was always impressed by the way Tryar designed the small shopping strip on the east side of the road; it would've been very easy at that time to build a traditional strip mall with the parking in front, but once the land around it finally fills out, I think it will be clear how much just simply letting the retail front the street helps in creating an urban experience. Had this addition been done right, the 2 would've complemented each other very well.

My last comment is that the mall itself HAS to be overparked, right? Between the several garages, both above and below grade, I can't imagine the need for so many additional lots aside from convenience. I wish that 1) The Nordstrom garage was replaced with a mixed-use parking structure, and that 2) The surface lot on Camelback across from the Waterfront was developed. If the underground structure can't support a building, than I would love to see the footprint reduced to accomodate street-side parking on all sides, and then build an outdoor park up top with a rotating "sidewalk" sale for the local artists and designers to showcase and sell their work that gets hidden inside the larger mall/stores. Large signs at each stop that said something like "As sold at NORDSTROM" or whichever store in the mall the items were sold so it could almost be a bit of a previous of what could be found. The visitor info center (now housed in the foot court of all places) could be moved out there, as well, and of course, some kind of coffee/froyo/cafe type of stand with patio seating.

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Old Posted Oct 12, 2013, 11:41 PM
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Meanwhile, Alliance Residential's takeover of the multifamily market in the Valley continues. They've purchased 2 lots slated for 8-story Triyar developments - Industry East and West, near Stetson/Wells Fargo Ave and Hotel Indigo. Hopefully, they'll begin using different designers or coming up with some new ideas, as they've used very similar approaches to their Broadstone collection. Regardless, more residential and dense projects in that area of downtown are a definite positive.

Article: http://www.brewaz.com/content/index_...r%2011,%202013
Plans: http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/Asset46741.aspx

On the flip side, Triyar purchased the Galleria, though unfortunately, plans seem to be limited to a lobby facelift.

Article: http://www.azcentral.com/community/s...-galleria.html

Near the soon-to-be 2-story Fry's, a 4-story apartment project has been approved on Indian School and Granite Reef.

Article: http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/n...t-project.html
Plans: http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/asset47572.aspx
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2013, 11:46 PM
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Looks like Camelview will be replaced.

Harkins to replace Camelview with 14-screen theater at Scottsdale Fashion Square

http://www.azcentral.com/community/s...on-square.html

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Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:39 PM
Harkins Theatres said Thursday it will build a 14-screen theater at Scottsdale Fashion Square that will include screens devoted to first-run movies along with independent, foreign and art films, replacing the nearby Camelview Theater.

“This theatre will be a moviegoer’s dream come true,” said company owner Dan Harkins, in a prepared statement. “We intend to transplant the soul of our beloved Camelview into this amazing new cinema. Independent, foreign, and art films are a part of our DNA and we are proud to be able to continue and expand Camelview’s legacy to include even more films in a dazzling new venue.”

Harkins said he expects the new theater to be open in spring of 2015. Harkins also now operates a 7-theater multiplex in Fashion Square near its food court which is expected to be incorporated into the new theater.

The statement said the new theater’s amenities will include reserved, luxury seating, a full bar and an indoor-outdoor terrace area.
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Construction of Skysong III building
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2014, 9:45 PM
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Construction progressing on third office building at SkySong.
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The Republic | azcentral.com
Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:31 AM
The new year is shaping up to be a big one for SkySong, the Arizona State University Scottsdale Innovation Center, on the McDowell Road corridor.

Construction is progressing on SkySong III, a 145,000-square-foot building that will be located along SkySong Boulevard, just southwest of the complex’s signature shade structure. The $32 million building will be ready for occupancy in August.

In addition, SkySong VI, also four stories, is expected to be under construction before the end of the year.

More than 1,000 employees and 50 companies are housed on the SkySong property, at the southeastern corner of McDowell and Scottsdale roads. The mission of the mixed-use, 42-acre development is to be a job creator and entrepreneurial hub.

Growth also is continuing in the first two office buildings, SkySong I and II. A new tenant, LearnVest, which provides personalized online financial planning services, has leased a 5,160-square-foot space on the third floor of SkySong II. Also, two current tenants, Atom Design and Loss Prevention Networks, have expanded their offices in SkySong I.

Plaza Cos. is the master developer of SkySong, in partnership with the ASU Foundation and Scottsdale. Tucson-based Holualoa Cos. also has partnered with Plaza Cos. for the project.

“SkySong is never stagnant,” said Sharon Harper, Plaza Cos. president and CEO. “It’s always innovative. That’s really our message for 2014.”

ASU is leasing the first 11/2 floors of SkySong III, and WebFilings, a current SkySong tenant, will be expanding by taking a full floor of the new building. Plaza Cos. also will be taking office space on the first floor.

“Between the success we are seeing from a leasing standpoint and the progress of construction on new facilities, it is a very exciting time for the project as it continues to grow and evolve,” Harper said.

In addition, 128 units have been completed at SkySong Apartments as of this week. About half of the first phase, which included 74 units, has been leased, said Don Couvillion, vice president of real estate for the ASU Foundation.

The 325-unit complex will be completed in April.

“We’re right on schedule,” Couvillion said. “As we complete this, and see what the market does and the jobs created in the area, we will be looking at adding to the apartments.”

A number of people who have firms at SkySong are now living there, and a number of SkySong tenants have leased apartments to accommodate out-of-town visitors to their companies, he said.

“We also have a number of people there who work at General Dynamics, so we’re really seeing it become an amenity for the neighborhood and a desirable place to live for people who work in the neighborhood,” Couvillion said.

Also planned for this year are increased outdoor “living room” spaces for people who live and work at SkySong, as well as innovative restaurants and additional services for the neighborhood, Harper said. The additions are in response to focus groups’ input on future needs at the campus, she said.

Scottsdale is focusing on making the city more bicycle friendly, and this also will be a goal at SkySong.

“SkySong very soon will be connected to the north, south, east and west with bike paths,” Couvillion said. “We’re hoping in 2014 all of this connectivity will be in place for cyclists and the city is very excited about that.”

With the completion of SkySong III and IV, and the apartments, SkySong will have more than 900,000 square feet of development.

“We think we can deliver 800 residential units in addition to 1.2 million square feet of commercial, and it will be need driven,” Harper said.

The city has invested $81.4 million for property acquisition and infrastructure improvements for the SkySong complex.

The city will receive annual payments, starting with $139,000 this year.
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2014, 4:08 AM
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Very nice, urban looking development! Why is it so hard to get something like this within the Phoenix city limits?

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Posted by Rachel on Feb 7th, 2014

Transwestern is preparing to build 416 multifamily units in a five story urban community. Using the Downtown Overlay Districts, the apartments will sit south of the Osborn-Scottsdale roads intersection.

The 72-foot tall, contemporary apartments featured a stepped-back terrace façade on Scottsdale Road. Agave Residential consists of two buildings.When developed Agave Residential will be the tallest building south of Indian School Road in downtown Scottsdale. The 455KSF building is a mix of studio, one- and two-bedroom apartments. With 416 units, its density is more than 58 units/net acre, taking advantage of the commercially-surrounded site on one of the Valley’s busiest roads.

The community is the second of two DOD infill projects Scottsdale is reviewing. The city also has a pair of obsolete commercial sites being redeveloped into residential use on its docket with Las Aguas taking over a former car dealership and Meritage replacing a warehouse with townhomes.
http://azbex.com/agave-residential-i...-olive-garden/
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Scottsdale Museum of the West



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The Scottsdale’s Museum of the West is under construction at the Northwest corner of Marshall Way at First Street.

View the schematic design plans (PDF, 12mb)
The museum site is in the heart of Scottsdale's historic downtown. This area is home to the Gallery and Old Town Districts, known for their arts and cultural amenities, historic buildings, retail and dining establishments. It is situated adjacent to the current Loloma Transit Center. This project will enhance and utilize the currently abandoned transit center.
Scottsdale’s Museum of the West will be constructed and owned by the City of Scottsdale, and operated by the nonprofit “Museum of the West” organization. The Museum’s Board of Directors has entered into a development and operating agreement with the City of Scottsdale to participate fully in the planning and development of the project, and upon completion become its sole operator.

Centered near the heart of downtown this Museum will create a perfect partnership with the arts district galleries, studios, dining and shopping venues directly to the north and throughout the Downtown area.

The project represents a unique opportunity for the City of Scottsdale to attract national and international prominence as a tourism capital through the success of a municipally funded development of a significant portion of the downtown area.

The goal of this project is to create a synergistic museum and exhibition venue that will:
-Become world renowned museum displaying cultural and artistic artifacts and exhibits displaying the meeting of the “Old West with the New West”
-Provide an enriched visitor attraction that will expand the current number of tourists visiting Scottsdale, thereby expanding Scottsdale’s tourism industry.
-Provide an additional venue for tourists and visitors already enjoying Scottsdale, and give them another cultural opportunity.
-Augment and support an already world renowned fine arts district
-Grow into a focal point for an enriched Cultural Center for the arts district
-Energize and enrich an area of the City now abandoned as a transit center underutilized as a public venue.
-Provide synergy with the Scottsdale Artist School, offering opportunities for collaboration in educational activities and programs.
-Augment and support an already rich and diverse, mixed use residential and retail area.
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Im considering moving into 3rd Ave lofts. any opinions on the place? looking to just rent.

all things good, bad and the ugly please post.

edit- drove by it and the area right there seemed a bit run down for old town. Pearl Sushi is out of business, the spot next to it is no longer there, JackRabbit now cameo looks dumpy (JackRabbit was solid spot back in the day) and E4 too. I have heard those names even mentioned in years. a bunch of dumpsters in the lot, and Martini Ranch is all boarded up too. walking distances to many places but kinda blah....

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ASU SkySong development in Scottsdale announces $5 million retail component

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The startup companies and residents at SkySong, the ASU Scottsdale Innovation Center, will soon have access to new locally-owned eateries and retail shops.
Plaza Cos., master developer of SkySong, rolled out plans this week for a 10,500-square-foot freestanding retail building within the growing mixed-use project, It’s now on the hunt for tenants.
The estimated $5 million retail structure will be situated on the western edge of SkySong, which spans 42 acres at the southeast corner of Scottsdale and McDowell roads in Scottsdale.
Construction should start sometime this fall and wrap up by spring of next year, accommodating between three and five tenants.
“We kept hearing from people that they wanted more restaurant and retail options to be a part of the future of SkySong, and this will help us accomplish that goal,” Sharon Harper, president and CEO of Plaza Cos., said in the statement. “We have a wonderful café on site and have had smaller retail presences in the past, but this will truly bring back strong, established retail to this property and provide some great services for the area.”
The retail component will the latest addition to SkySong, which launched a decade ago, slowed during the recession and then kicked into growth mode again more than a year ago.
Plaza recently completed a $44 million, 325-unit apartment project there, while SkySong’s two existing office buildings — which total 300,000 square feet — will be joined by a third $32 million office structure this summer. A fourth and final office building is also set to break ground by year-end.
So far, SkySong’s two existing office buildings house more than 1,000 employees and 50 companies -- many of them small startups. At full build-out, SkySong will have 1.2 million square feet, including a hotel and conference center.
“It is a high-profile and active intersection, which we believe will make it extremely attractive to unique and local restaurants and stores,” said Ed Beeh, a broker with SRS Real Estate Partners who is handling SkySong’s retail leasing.
SkySong has also recently experienced some changes in its ownership structure.
The city of Scottsdale leases most of the land to the ASU Foundation, which, up until last year, subleased each parcel on which the buildings rest to the three joint-venture owners: ASU Foundation, Plaza and USAA Real Estate Co.
In August, USAA sold its stake in the two SkySong office buildings to Tucson-based Holualoa Cos. for almost $70 million.
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Optima’s Newest 1.5MSF, 4-Building Midrise at Kierland

Furniture row on North Scottsdale Road will have more new apartments to decorate. Four 12-story mid-rise buildings with apartments and a luxury boutique hotel are proposed by Optima on the site of the former Robb & Stuckey Furniture galleries at Scottsdale Road and Kierland Boulevard.

http://azbex.com/optimas-newest-1-5m...e-at-kierland/
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Scottsdale Fashion Square expansion under construction

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...tion/12381347/
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Optima’s Newest 1.5MSF, 4-Building Midrise at Kierland

Furniture row on North Scottsdale Road will have more new apartments to decorate. Four 12-story mid-rise buildings with apartments and a luxury boutique hotel are proposed by Optima on the site of the former Robb & Stuckey Furniture galleries at Scottsdale Road and Kierland Boulevard.

http://azbex.com/optimas-newest-1-5m...e-at-kierland/
At this rate, Scottsdale will be going more vertical than Phoenix. Great to see all the mid-rises being developed in Scottsdale.

Now only if they would jump on the lightrail wagon.
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Those highrises are in Phoenix. The border between the cities there is a line one traffic lane into Scottsdale Rd, and Scottsdale would never approve buildings that tall anyways.
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Those highrises are in Phoenix. The border between the cities there is a line one traffic lane into Scottsdale Rd, and Scottsdale would never approve buildings that tall anyways.
They're approving 8-10 story condos in their downtown, and the highest Optima Sonoran building, 12 stories, is under construction on Camelback/68th.
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They're approving 8-10 story condos in their downtown, and the highest Optima Sonoran building, 12 stories, is under construction on Camelback/68th.
Correct, and they did approve even taller with Blu Sky, which would have been around 138 feet...even though I think that project may have fallen through? I saw a for sale sign on the lot when I drove by over the weekend
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They're approving 8-10 story condos in their downtown, and the highest Optima Sonoran building, 12 stories, is under construction on Camelback/68th.
Touche!
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