NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[SouthAmboyGuy]

I am also a new member and so glad that I finally did join, after viewing this site and forum for some time.

I am so fed up with Durst and the PANYNJ that I find it hard to put into words.

Talk about a case of being "penny wise and pound foolish." If they go ahead with this scheme, I'm sure this will ultimately cost Durst far more than $20 million in bad will.

We're talking about *The Key Element* of this entire complex; something that will profoundly change the aesthetics of the building and complex. It will also affect the symbolic height of the building, as well as the building losing it's status as the tallest in the Western Hemisphere.

What irks me the most is that the savings is minute: 0.04 percent of the cost of the building. Why are they doing this? Surely it cannot be related to the "extra" cost.

This is wrong, wrong, wrong -- and it is my most sincere hope that we have not seen the end of this mean act of paltry miserliness.

[marshall]

I agree I am not happy about the spire changes, but at this point, looks doubtful that it will change unless something happens at the last minute. I am glad to see the building close to topping out though! It definately will make quite a statement. One more question though, remember a few weeks back when they unveiled the new logo for One World Trade Center? Perhaps now they will have to revise it, given the narrower antenna? The logo for the building is seen here:

[SouthAmboyGuy]

Originally Posted by marshall

I agree I am not happy about the spire changes, but at this point, looks doubtful that it will change unless something happens at the last minute. I am glad to see the building close to topping out though! It definately will make quite a statement. One more question though, remember a few weeks back when they unveiled the new logo for One World Trade Center? Perhaps now they will have to revise it, given the narrower antenna? The logo for the building is seen here:

Thanks for bringing up the matter of the logo. The spire is included in the logo. That's how important the spire is to this building. If they're only going to build a crappy antenna (an embarrasement to NYC after what has been promised all these years), then a new logo is required.

Can you imagine the Chrysler Building without its spire; and how do they manage to maintain its spire?

Very sad situation. Almost unbelievable, really.

On the other hand, I agree, it is thrilling to witness it being topped out--a once in a generation experience!!!

[599GTO]

...trying....so..hard ...to give a damn about it topping out but I just can't!

The day it tops out, i'll yawn. I am not into this tower anymore, unfortunately.

[StrongIsland]

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

They are not. These are mechanical floors as well and will take 2 weeks at least to finish. The next steel rise isn't till at least May 28th.

There are 2 jumps left. 103M/104 and one for the paraphet...topping off should be if not last week of May then certainly within the first week of June, which is probably going to happen.

[brooklynbandit]

so whats the current height

[SouthAmboyGuy]

Mark my words (sad though they may be): if this cheapy antenna thing gets built, 2 WTC will ultimately become a flattop. I can fully understand how people can lose interest.

So very disappointing and completely different from the can-do spirit with which the original towers were built.

Have we really lost our way? "Say it ain't so!"

That it from me, seeing how I'm new. I just needed to get this off of my chest. Thanks for providing the opportunity.

[Zapatan]

It is almost unbelievable, to think how much 1776 was thrown in our face for a decade and to now cop out.

[Roadcruiser1]

Originally Posted by StrongIsland

There are 2 jumps left. 103M/104 and one for the paraphet...topping off should be if not last week of May then certainly within the first week of June, which is probably going to happen.

No. From what information I can gather from Otie this building still has floors 105 and 106. Then comes the parapet which brings it to 109 and floor 110 is in the mast.

Originally Posted by brooklynbandit

so whats the current height

1,293 feet.

Also you guys should look at this Wall Street Journal poll. The results are shocking from how many people wants the old mast not the Durst one.

http://online.wsj.com/community/grou...?dj_vote=25318

[Otie]

104 is the last real floor; 105 is the roof; 106 are the cooling tower catwalks; 107 through 109 will form the 3 level communications platform ring, and 110 is a small platform located at the mast.

[Roadcruiser1]

Originally Posted by Otie

104 is the last real floor; 105 is the roof; 106 are the cooling tower catwalks; 107 through 109 will form the 3 level communications platform ring, and 110 is a small platform located at the mast.

Ah thanks, but I am not looking forward to topping off unless if the mast is changed back into the old one. Feeling sad that we are so close to having it topped off but an ugly monster is going to sit on top.

[sw5710]

Now at floor 103 or 1,293' + splices = 1,297 or 1,303' from the lowest entrance.

[Otie]

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

Ah thanks, but I am not looking forward to topping off unless if the mast is changed back into the old one. Feeling sad that we are so close to having it topped off but an ugly monster is going to sit on top.

Zen would have loved to see the mast exposed, just like the whole tower with no curtain wall dressing it. Steel porn they call it.

[chris123678]

Being that this building is going to be topped out soon, it's sad that David Childs will never see his vision the way he wanted to. He stayed on an extra 5 years to do One World Trade Center and they completely get rid of the things he worked hard for, the Base glass, the spire, the plaza. Sad.

[Zapatan]

I would be surprised if David Childs weren't livid with blind rage.

the PA PROMISED America a height of 1776 feet, so I guess they are lying filth.

[natiboy]

I'm just as pissed about the spire as everyone else, but I'm going to hold out hope that Childs will fight for the original design and be successful. There is no way he wants his name associated with the building with that monstrosity on top.

I guess what I'm saying is, wait and see.

[NewYorkDominates]

Such a simple,yet elegant tower topped out with a filthy antenna is wrong.The encased spire gave it a sense of magic,with it's unicorn-like spire.

[Zapatan]

I'd even go as far to say, why not just use thin plastic instead of the radome? it would look the same from a distance, no one would really notice.

I agree with people who say they can't imagine Child's letting this slide, I just can't see that. Not saying it can't happen, but it would be really unbelieveably sad if it did.

[1Boston]

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

Also you guys should look at this Wall Street Journal poll. The results are shocking from how many people wants the old mast not the Durst one.

http://online.wsj.com/community/grou...?dj_vote=25318

To be honest, im more surprised that that many people actually do want the Durst one. I would've expected to at least see and 80% gain over Durst.

[Zapatan]

well some people may actually think it's a safety concern when that's really just a cover up for "we don't want to spend the extra money"

There is nothing dangerous about the radome spire, people are just gullible.