HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture

Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #1901  
Old Posted Aug 14, 2018, 4:21 PM
JManc's Avatar
JManc JManc is offline
Registered Putz
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 22,768
Does it really need or want one? The "mega talls" are more or less fodder for developing economies like the UAE, Saudi Arabia and China trying to prove themselves to the rest of the world...something we did 80+ years ago when we were building structures like the Empire State Building.
__________________
Castigat ridendo mores
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1902  
Old Posted Aug 14, 2018, 7:52 PM
Zapatan's Avatar
Zapatan Zapatan is offline
El Barto
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Las Americas y Europa
Posts: 3,169
Quote:
Originally Posted by JManc View Post
Does it really need or want one? The "mega talls" are more or less fodder for developing economies like the UAE, Saudi Arabia and China trying to prove themselves to the rest of the world...something we did 80+ years ago when we were building structures like the Empire State Building.
Exactly. Although it would be nice for a city like NYC or Chicago (or both) to build a ~1,650+ to the roof.

Anything beyond that is not necessary for an amazing skyline
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1903  
Old Posted Aug 14, 2018, 8:39 PM
newyorker newyorker is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by JManc View Post
Does it really need or want one? The "mega talls" are more or less fodder for developing economies like the UAE, Saudi Arabia and China trying to prove themselves to the rest of the world...something we did 80+ years ago when we were building structures like the Empire State Building.
I personally feel it's our duty to build as high as we can ..especially in NY ..where it's certainly possible to exceed 2000+ ft tower.

Keeping in mind the obstacles outlined in the video are not insurmountable.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1904  
Old Posted Aug 14, 2018, 11:02 PM
photoLith's Avatar
photoLith photoLith is offline
Ex Houstonian
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Oakland, Pittsburgh
Posts: 11,518
I just hope One World Trade isn't kept as the benchmark and to never go above that out of Mericaness and freedom and stuff.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1905  
Old Posted Aug 15, 2018, 1:55 AM
chris08876's Avatar
chris08876 chris08876 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey - Somerset County
Posts: 22,996
The free market will reign supreme. The idea of it being the tallest will fade away in the sense of symbolic purposes. If anything, its temporary.

I'd look to the Midtown East Rezoning and the parcels that WILL be purchased and added onto. When you purchase a property worth several billion (as land is tight), you can sure bet something much larger will rise. 270 Park for example. 270 Park being a more extreme example as it will be demolished and something will rise in its place, but I can envision a lot of renovations with addition components (minus the demo for financial reasons). In other words, turning class B space into A, and retrofitting a whole tower while adding floors to it. Could vary based on the wishes of those property owners or stakeholders, but its a start.

Just the first of many.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1906  
Old Posted Sep 9, 2018, 11:47 PM
chris08876's Avatar
chris08876 chris08876 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey - Somerset County
Posts: 22,996
Remaining status of 111 W 57th and CPT via Thomas Koloski

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1907  
Old Posted Sep 11, 2018, 7:52 PM
chris08876's Avatar
chris08876 chris08876 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey - Somerset County
Posts: 22,996
As the 2 WTC thread is closed, an interview pertaining to the topic. Via NYY


As of 9/11/18.

========================

Quote:

YIMBY recently sat down with Larry Silverstein to discuss his firm’s upcoming projects, as well as the status of the World Trade Center’s last remaining office supertall-to-be, at 200 Greenwich Street. With 3,000 new rental units in the works and Norman Foster’s design still on the table for Two World Trade Center, the scope of work Mr. Silverstein is undertaking is also now expanding into Journal Square and Queens.


Will Two World Trade Center be complete by 2025?

I believe so. Someone’s going to come along.

What are the chances we see the Foster design instead of the BIG Plan?

Well, we now have two designs to choose from. They’re very different. Someone’s going to come along, we have a choice of two fantastic plans to show, and whichever that occupant prefers is the one we will build.

So Foster’s can still happen?

Yes.


What projects are you working on at the moment?

A lot. Well, Mercedes Benz is moving forward. We have a significant project in the works in Queens. We have something similar going in Journal Square. So Queens, Journal Square, also residential high rise rental housing. We have about 2,500, maybe 3,000 rental units in the works.

Is the market shifting towards high-density towers?

As the area grows, as more people come into it, lots of young people getting entry level jobs need a place to live as close to their work as possible. So two PATH station stops and you’re in Journal Square, that’s not bad from Manhattan. Twelve or fifteen minutes and you’re in Journal Square, it’s pretty convenient.

You’ve read about our acquisition of the ABC project over on the West Side in the Lincoln Center area. That’s a pretty damn exciting opportunity that’s shaping up. Disney will stay in possession of their campus for 5 years, 3.5 years for their non-campus stuff. That’ll happen over a ten year period, so, it’s going to keep us busy. You put all these things together, there’s a lot going on.

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1908  
Old Posted Sep 12, 2018, 7:30 AM
faridnyc faridnyc is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 99
New York city will have almost 15 supertall by the end of 2020 but no megatall
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1909  
Old Posted Sep 12, 2018, 5:38 PM
Doubleu1117 Doubleu1117 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 29
I pray that whichever tenant commits to 2 WTC prefers Fosters design. That building has the potential to be an icon, and flows with the site as one cohesive vision far better than the sore thumb BIG would be. Exciting to hear it is back on the table.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1910  
Old Posted Sep 13, 2018, 12:52 PM
chris08876's Avatar
chris08876 chris08876 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey - Somerset County
Posts: 22,996
New Renderings Debut For 35 Hudson Yards, Neighborhood’s First Residential Supertall








Quote:
New renderings have been released for the 92-story Skidmore Owings & Merrill (SOM)-designed 35 Hudson Yards, the second tallest structure underway in the overall mega-development. Along with the new renderings, images of construction reveal that the façade has shot up to just a few stories under the parapet. Once fully installed, all five of the Hudson Yards towers currently in the skyline will be near completely clad.


AD100-awarded designer Tony Ingrao will be responsible for the interior designs of the apartments and amenity lounges. David Childs of SOM is responsible for the architecture, notable for its limestone and curtain wall façade.

The 1,009-foot tall building will yield over one million square feet within, creating 143 condominiums, a 217-key Equinox hotel between floors 15-29, and retail on the first and second floors.
=====================
NYY
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1911  
Old Posted Sep 18, 2018, 1:33 AM
newyorker newyorker is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 26
An interesting video..not sure we've seen posted yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvskkXlvhS4
Reply With Quote
     
     
End
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 2:25 AM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.