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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 10:03 PM
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Need to compare Denver when FasTracks was proposed (Early 2000s) to current Nashville.
So, this proposal in Nashville is just for Davidson County (Nashville) not the entire metro area. Given the size of the city of Nashville, this would just be like Denver itself proposing a $6B transit package. So it's not FasTracks, but rather what Denver Moves could be.

Would we be willing to shoulder a tax hike for $6B in transit, bikes, and sidewalks?
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 10:08 PM
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15th moves like 300-400 buses a day, same for 17th. 18th does similar numbers in a few sections.
I don't know bus routes () or where they go but assuming the budget wasn't an issue - would they be ideal for "enhanced" service with some amount of dedicated lanes? IIRC, Seattle now has two downtown streets that have dedicated lanes for 5/6 blocks.

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So, this proposal in Nashville is just for Davidson County (Nashville) not the entire metro area. Given the size of the city of Nashville, this would just be like Denver itself proposing a $6B transit package. So it's not FasTracks, but rather what Denver Moves could be.

Would we be willing to shoulder a tax hike for $6B in transit, bikes, and sidewalks?
I don't see it as remotely possibly. Consider that the best Seattle has done as a city was the $930 million Move Seattle that passed in 2015. Everything else and it's a shit-ton are efforts of the metro area Sound Transit ie ST2 and especially ST3.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 10:42 PM
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I honestly wonder how the Tennessee legislature will fuck this one up.

The legislature lead efforts to block Nashville's BRT efforts, possibly because poor people and also tourists. I think it originally stated no BRT dropoffs on state highways. While those legislative efforts fell flat in a compromise bill, the effect worked. No BRT.

More info here: http://www.nashvillepost.com/politic...from-the-grave and here https://www.bizjournals.com/nashvill...iking-the.html
Interesting... but things can change over time and it's now 3/4 years later. Megan Barry seems to be very popular so it should be interesting.

I have read in the last year or so that at least at the state level they're coming around to transit being a piece of their future. One advantage Tennessee has, is compared to CO and CDOT Tennessee roads are well rated and to date it's all been pay-as-you-go.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 10:45 PM
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I honestly wonder how the Tennessee legislature will fuck this one up.

The legislature lead efforts to block Nashville's BRT efforts, possibly because poor people and also tourists. I think it originally stated no BRT dropoffs on state highways. While those legislative efforts fell flat in a compromise bill, the effect worked. No BRT.

More info here: http://www.nashvillepost.com/politic...from-the-grave and here https://www.bizjournals.com/nashvill...iking-the.html
As a former Nashvillian and someone who still considers it his home town, I can unequivocally say that I share your concerns. Many state legislators seem to despise Nashville, even though it's the main economic engine of the state, and even though they all basically work/live there for part of the year. This feeling seems to come primarily from a sense that Nashville gets a disproportional portion of state funding... but it should. Sorry Bucksnort (a real town name lol) you just aren't as important as a metro of two million that doubles as the state capital.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 10:51 PM
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Changing subjects, new Colorado bike shares this fall:

Zagster/M-Bike in Meridian:




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A Douglas County business park has unchained a bike share program it hopes will take a bite out of the number of car trips that occur within its boundaries every day and help address the “first mile/last mile” dilemma transit users often face.

M-Bike, as the Meridian Metro District has dubbed its program, went live Wednesday. It features 50 bikes at 11 stations scattered around the Meridian International Business Center, a 1,685-acre mixed-used area roughly located southeast of the C-470–Interstate 25 interchange.

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Big-time employers like engineering giant CH2M Hill call Meridian home. There are six apartment complexes and 40 retailers there too, officials say. All told, 20,000 people spend at least part of their day there, Hecox said. District leadership performed a bike share feasibility study over the winter and received lots of positive feedback from district occupants. Meridian identified Massachusetts-based bike-sharing specialist Zagster as its preferred partner and M-Bike was born. Bikes are available to everyone who visits Meridian through the Zagster mobile app. The cost is $2 per hour. Bikes are available 24 hours per day.

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The metro district has underwritten the $90,000 cost to launch the program and already has plans to double its size with a second phase in the spring, Hecox said. Right now, project partners include CH2M Hill, and the Zenith and Vela apartment complexes. Each has its own station among the 11 that opened Wednesday, and their tenants and/or employees have free bike access. Officials hope more businesses will sign up as partners in Phase 2. Along with rider feedback and user data gathered over the next few months, those partnerships will influence the location of future stations, Hecox said.
Keep in mind the area around the Lincoln and 25 looks like this:



Yes that in the M-Bike station kinda in the middle. No. Not that middle. That middle is a cornfield.


LimeBike in Aurora:




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LimeBike launched in Aurora last week with 250 bikes for rent at busy spots throughout the city, marking the first city-approved bike share company to offer their service in Aurora. The California-based company also offers their bikes in several other states, but the Aurora program is their first foray into the Colorado market.

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In general, bike shares allow people to rent a bike for a short ride at a low cost — with LimeBike, it costs $1 for the first 30 minutes.

But many of the systems require cyclists to pick their bike up at a designated rack, or “dock,” and drop them either at the same spot or another designated dock. That’s how Denver’s B-cycle program works.

LimeBike is different in that it’s dockless. Bikes are monitored by GPS, and cyclists can pick them up wherever they find one. The LimeBike cell phone app has a map showing where available bikes are, similar to Car2Go.

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For now, the company asks that riders don’t ride their bikes from Aurora into Denver or onto the Anschutz Medical Campus — two places LimeBike has yet to work out the sort of permitting deal they have with Aurora. But Mary Caroline Pruitt, a spokeswoman for the company, said they hope to have those deals completed soon.

“While we don’t have timing specifics, we have reached out to Anschutz, and hope to bring LimeBike to its campuses in the future. We have also had positive discussions with the city of Denver, and look forward to continuing these collaborative conversations so that people throughout the greater Denver area can rely on LimeBike as their convenient, sustainable transportation option,” she said in an email.
So, Meridian is a B-Cycle style bike sharing service that serves... office parks in a 1,600 acre (2 mile) area.

LimeBike is Car2Go style service that serves the Aurora Mall/city hall area.

Bets on LimeBike, especially since a saw a half dozen of them scattered about.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 10:59 PM
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Dockless bikeshare is the future. Denver will have it soon once some regulatory items are ironed out.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 11:09 PM
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I wonder how M-Bike handles commuter flows. The Lincoln/25 station had a max of 15 docks. What happens at 8:30 when all the bikes are gone? What about 5:10 when all the docks are full? There isn’t a nearby docking station. But there is a golf course to bike around.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 11:57 PM
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BNABreaker, welcome to Denver. Don’t worry we bite one another.

Quick question on TN politics, as I grew up there. How does the Memphis/Nashville dynamic play out? How does it affect transportation poltics?
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 2:19 AM
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BNABreaker, welcome to Denver. Don’t worry we bite one another.
I hope I didn't leave any scars.
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Quick question on TN politics, as I grew up there. How does the Memphis/Nashville dynamic play out? How does it affect transportation politics?
I do know a lot about Memphis.

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And RTD has purged 65k daily riders since 2nd quarter 2016 (335k daily riders). Ouch.
That's ugly. If my math is correct that's a drop of 16%.

Different time period but the Philadelphia Business Journal recently published a slideshow for the 20 largest passenger declines for 2016: Trouble on the Tracks. - and Denver isn't even listed.

Decided to check and sure enough the APTA report for the 2nd quarter is out. Total trips YTD are only down 718/day or 1.44%. Bus ridership is down 4.77%; light rail ridership is down 5.88% (I'm clueless). They've got commuter rail up a whopping 154% which is why total ridership is only down 1.44%.

BTW, first time I quickly read through "transit-only facilities" the dots didn't connect for me but I'm up to speed now.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 1:37 PM
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North line faces construction delay of 18 months

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The Regional Transportation District is looking at an estimated 18-month construction delay for the North Metro Rail Line, officials say. The first phase of the project, including six of eight planned stations, was originally scheduled to open in the first quarter of 2018. The delay puts the opening in late 2019, though RTD officials will not commit to that time frame and have vowed to make up the time as best they can.

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The delay up north stems from a variety of complications in designing and building the 12.5 miles of track that will eventually carry electric, heavy-rail trains from Denver’s Union Station north to East 124th and Eastlake avenues in Thornton. RTD’s design-build contractor on the project is Regional Rail Partners.

The project is snagged over how it will impact the historic Riverside Cemetery at 5201 Brighton Blvd. RTD has proposed closing the cemetery’s existing entrance on Brighton and placing a new entrance off of Race Court.

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Cemetery officials say they want to keep the entrance as it is.

Meanwhile, RTD is building a nearly 2-mile-long bridge to carry the single-track line over York Street, existing rail road tracks and Interstate 270 in Commerce City. The so-called Skyway bridge also passes over a portion of the Suncor oil refinery.

But the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has deemed the refinery as important strategically, RTD’s Currey said, and mandated the agency add blinders on portions of the bridge so passengers can’t see down into the facility.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 2:55 PM
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Ha. I rode a LimeBike yesterday. We have them in DC.
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Ha. I rode a LimeBike yesterday. We have them in DC.
How do they 'lock'?
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How do they 'lock'?
Look at this photo. See the black mechanism under the seat? That's the lock. Inside the black mechanism is a ring-shaped piece of steel. When you're riding, the ring is inside the mechanism. When you're done with your trip, you push a button and the ring extends down from one end of the black box to the other, through the bicycle wheel, thus preventing the wheel from turning.

So the bikes lock to prevent unauthorized rides, but anyone can pick them up and move them. Yes, that can result in problems (in fact just today I ran across this misuse with another dockless bikeshare in DC).


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Cirrus... Interesting; and I do like the LimeBike.

CDOT to fix 'one of the worst' freeway traffic bottlenecks in metro Denver

Wait... CDOT expects splashing some paint around will do this? Right

Well maybe; it seems to make sense.
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RTD will be hosting open houses regarding issues with the commuter rail lines: http://www3.rtd-denver.com/elbert/ne...x.cfm?id=10125

Monday, Oct 23 – 6 p.m.-7:30 p.m.
Central Park Recreation Center
9651 M.L.K. Jr. Blvd, Denver, CO 80238

Wednesday, Oct. 25 – 6 p.m.-7:30 p.m.
Arvada Center for the Arts and Humanities
6901 Wadsworth Blvd., Arvada, CO 80003

Thursday, Oct. 26 – 6 p.m.-7:30 p.m.
Wheat Ridge Recreation Center
4005 Kipling St., Wheat Ridge, CO 80033

Saturday, Oct. 28 – 10 a.m.-11:30 a.m.
Green Valley Ranch Recreation Center
4890 Argonne Way, Denver, CO 80249
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^ I'm sure they'll get an earful.

What’s behind the delays on RTD’s North Metro Line?

I believe somebody recently mentioned the delay of the N Line. Couple of days ago Cathy Proctor covered the background. It's quite the interesting clustermess including this factoid:
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Among the challenges is the North Metro line’s Skyway Bridge, which at 9,533 feet long is just a little under two miles.

The Skyway Bridge will carry rail commuters over 11 existing transportation corridors and waterways. It’s longer than the Golden Gate Bridge (nearly 8,980 feet), the Brooklyn Bridge (5,989 feet), and Colorado’s Royal Gorge Bridge (1,260 feet).

It’s also “the most complicated and technical bridge that will ever have been submitted” to state and federal rail authorities, Currey said.
Then it gets even more complicated.

Assuming everyone wants to know... I'm unbothered by the delay.
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^ I'm sure they'll get an earful.

What’s behind the delays on RTD’s North Metro Line?

I believe somebody recently mentioned the delay of the N Line. Couple of days ago Cathy Proctor covered the background. It's quite the interesting clustermess including this factoid:

Then it gets even more complicated.

Assuming everyone wants to know... I'm unbothered by the delay.
While that Skyway "Bridge" at 9,533 feet long is an impressive and complicated construction project, I'm pretty sure that it would more accurately be described as a viaduct. I'd love to see that nearly 2-mile bridge with only 2-support locations (other than the ends). Not quite the engineering marvel of the other bridges mentioned when you think of it like that.
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