44 W Monroe - Page 7

PHX31 · #**121** Posted **Jul 22, 2006, 8:25 PM**

/\ Probably to pretend like their penthouses will overlook the Bank of America building. Chase looks monstrous (especially compared to bofa), I'll have to assume their scale is way off.

HX_Guy · #**122** Posted **Jul 22, 2006, 9:01 PM**

US Bank Tower is 409 ft correct?

That scale has to be off...it shows 44 Monroe a good 3 floors higher plus the design structures on top...that would make it what...450ft+?

HX_Guy · #**123** Posted **Jul 22, 2006, 11:06 PM**

Why does the model only show 26 floors?

Don B. · #**124** Posted **Jul 22, 2006, 11:19 PM**

^ The camera's perspective could also be an issue in that photo.

Thursday, I went to the headquarters of the developer to try and get better height info. I ended up having to leave my card. I've yet to hear back from them.

--don

PHX31 · #**125** Posted **Jul 22, 2006, 11:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by HX_Guy

Why does the model only show 26 floors?

The lower 7 or 8 of them are hidden

HX_Guy · #**126** Posted **Jul 22, 2006, 11:29 PM**

I understand the first 7-8 floors should be parking right...but shouldn't it still be shown on the model? So if you buy a condo on the 9th level, you wouldn't be at street level.

PHX31 · #**127** Posted **Jul 22, 2006, 11:50 PM**

Yeah, the first (lower) floors of the tower are hidden... there is a parking garage to the north of the building. The bottom floors shown aren't ground level, they're 7-8 floors up. This model is very incorrect, because all of this isn't really shown well.

Vicelord John · #**128** Posted **Jul 23, 2006, 1:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by HX_Guy

I understand the first 7-8 floors should be parking right...but shouldn't it still be shown on the model? So if you buy a condo on the 9th level, you wouldn't be at street level.

Look harder, they are in the model but the you cant see to the ground becuase of hte other buildings in the model.

HX_Guy · #**129** Posted **Jul 23, 2006, 1:31 AM**

Oh I gotcha...what looks like the ground is actually the roof of the parking structure north of 44 Monroe.

Vicelord John · #**130** Posted **Jul 23, 2006, 1:48 AM**

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Oh I gotcha...what looks like the ground is actually the roof of the parking structure north of 44 Monroe.

soleri · #**131** Posted **Jul 28, 2006, 9:16 PM**

The rebar is well above ground level and the 2nd floor forms are being set in the NE corner.

Don B. · #**132** Posted **Jul 28, 2006, 9:29 PM**

Just got off the phone with the principal of Grace Communities - he finally called me back. Main roof height will be around 370 feet and the crown, if built, will top out at about 406 feet. The crown may not get built - depends on the ultimate cost. I have to go change the entry at ss.com. He is approved all the way up.

He re-iterated "third tallest building in Phoenix" and I gently corrected him. His will be the third tallest in downtown, but the Qwest Tower at Thomas and Central is 397 feet. That makes him the fourth tallest in the city, and that title won't last for long. W will push him to fifth, and City Centre will push him to sixth (both being very likely). Cityscape's two tallest towers, if built, will push him to seventh and eighth, and there are other speculative towers that might push him back to tenth or eleventh by the end of the decade. He finally said that this was disturbing and I told him he should have built to 550' then. We both then laughed.

I pointed him to our website here and my photos website. He especially liked the 2009 hypothetical rendering of downtown Phoenix.

--don

DowntownDweller · #**133** Posted **Jul 28, 2006, 9:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by soleri

The rebar is well above ground level and the 2nd floor forms are being set in the NE corner.

Where are you taking this shot from?

Don B. · #**134** Posted **Jul 28, 2006, 9:44 PM**

^ The U.S. Bank Tower (nee 101 North 1st Ave).

--don

innov8 · #**135** Posted **Jul 28, 2006, 9:48 PM**

Great photos and sharp looking tower guys. This city deserves a new tower or two or three

soleri · #**136** Posted **Jul 28, 2006, 9:51 PM**

^8th floor terrace of the US Bank Building.

It would be a shame if the building's crown is scrapped.

Grace Communities is also having trouble with the parking for their Professional Bldg conversion. The small pad where the fleabag Golden West hotel stands would somehow have to function as both underground parking for them and the site of the so-called Sliver Building. The costs really start climbing for condos there - well over $650/square foot.

Azndragon837 · #**137** Posted **Jul 28, 2006, 10:03 PM**

Don, thanks for the info! I also really hope the tower tops out at 406 feet, that would be very, very nice (spires can do so much for a skyscraper...I mean, the Petronas Towers beat out the Sears with 33 extra feet of spires). I spoke to a source from the City of Phoenix, and the person said that since the tower is now at street level, it will rise one floor per week beginning this week. So, sometime in about March, the tower should be topped off.

-Andrew

HX_Guy · #**138** Posted **Jul 28, 2006, 10:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Don B.

Just got off the phone with the principal of Grace Communities - he finally called me back. Main roof height will be around 370 feet and the crown, if built, will top out at about 406 feet. The crown may not get built - depends on the ultimate cost. I have to go change the entry at ss.com. He is approved all the way up.

--don

That is really a shame...370' would put it barely above the height of the Sheraton hotel and a good 100' shorter then Chase Tower?

I was really hoping this would really stand out in DT Phoenix.

DowntownDweller · #**139** Posted **Jul 28, 2006, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by soleri

^8th floor terrace of the US Bank Building.
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How are you getting out there?

kevininlb · #**140** Posted **Jul 28, 2006, 11:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by HX_Guy

That is really a shame...370' would put it barely above the height of the Sheraton hotel and a good 100' shorter then Chase Tower?

I was really hoping this would really stand out in DT Phoenix.

Totally agree. But, I'm happy it's going up. I think it's a nice looking building and 370 is okay. Still, I'm a bit bummed.