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Old Posted Jan 20, 2016, 9:28 PM
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Image of the Bob Ball / FFA building planned for 915 NW 21st Ave, via the DJC ($).


I guess even in the portions of NW that the Historic Landmarks Commission doesn't have purview over we still get pseudo-historic nonsense.


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Old Posted Jan 20, 2016, 9:30 PM
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Yeah, this looks really weak. I wonder if it might be better off without the balconies. I can't hate this too much since it's taking out that vile Gypsy structure, but if you're doing faux historicist, do what you can to make it less cloying.
Actually this is the one taking out Ling Garden. The one taking out the Gypsy is another faux historicist building.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2016, 11:18 PM
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Image of the Bob Ball / FFA building planned for 915 NW 21st Ave, via the DJC ($).



I guess even in the portions of NW that the Historic Landmarks Commission doesn't have purview over we still get pseudo-historic nonsense.
I don't mind the shape of it, but the detailing is awful.
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Old Posted Jan 21, 2016, 11:11 PM
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I am not going to comment on the design, but the tree cover there means only the bottom 15 feet or so really has a presence on the street.
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I am not going to comment on the design, but the tree cover there means only the bottom 15 feet or so really has a presence on the street.
I have to assume those trees are going to be cut down so this can be built.
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2016, 9:22 PM
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Notice of a Pre Application Conference [PDF] for a project at 1331 NW 17th Ave.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2016, 12:38 AM
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NW Portland in the '70's

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While living in Portland I frequented the nightlife on SW Stark Street. It did have a nickname of "Vaseline Alley" at the time. Never heard it being used for an area in NW Portland... I could be wrong but I lived in NW right off 21st for a few years and then moved to SW Vista....and I never heard that nickname for any area other than my old stomping grounds around the Stark area..
Regarding this side discussion of Vaseline, in the mid-1970's, Stark St. had not yet become an epicenter of gay nightlife. Instead, where the new Park West tower stands today was a group of fun places including the Rafters and the Embers. In those days, well-off West Hills gays, with a snooty snarkiness, referred to NW Portland as Vaseline Valley or Fellatio Flats because the neighborhood was the closest thing to a gay ghetto then. Later with gentrification and condominiumization, gays dispersed throughout the city seeking cheaper housing.

I do not recall the Esquire Theater ever showing porn during my era starting in 1976.
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Regarding this side discussion of Vaseline, in the mid-1970's, Stark St. had not yet become an epicenter of gay nightlife. Instead, where the new Park West tower stands today was a group of fun places including the Rafters and the Embers. In those days, well-off West Hills gays, with a snooty snarkiness, referred to NW Portland as Vaseline Valley or Fellatio Flats because the neighborhood was the closest thing to a gay ghetto then. Later with gentrification and condominiumization, gays dispersed throughout the city seeking cheaper housing.

I do not recall the Esquire Theater ever showing porn during my era starting in 1976.

Thanks for the info.. I lived in Spokane at that period of time. I used to party at the Embers and Rafters while it was across the street from Nordstrom whenever I visit Portland. Also, Hamburger Marys..which was just down the street. (Fox Tower). I can't remember if the Nordstrom store had yet to be built or if it was still the small Nordstrom Best shoe store just north of the present store. I came out with a bang during the Spokane World's Fair..

I do remember that many of the gays I met during that era were proud of the fact that their numbers lived throughout the city...unlike Seattle and San Francisco..

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Yes, the Nordstrom shoe store was on the corner where Abercrombie & Fitch is today. In 1976-77 demolition of the block for the current Nordstrom store was undertaken. Sadly a grand old movie theater with terracotta lions heads was taken down. Hamburger Mary's was a friendly spot at the corner where the Regal Cinema's entrance is. The beloved Vat & Tonsure was in the same block where the entrance to Ringside Fish House is.
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Yes, the Nordstrom shoe store was on the corner where Abercrombie & Fitch is today. In 1976-77 demolition of the block for the current Nordstrom store was undertaken. Sadly a grand old movie theater with terracotta lions heads was taken down. Hamburger Mary's was a friendly spot at the corner where the Regal Cinema's entrance is. The beloved Vat & Tonsure was in the same block where the entrance to Ringside Fish House is.
I remember going to movies in the old Fox, Music Box and Broadway all located on Broadway. Also, ate a few breakfasts at the iHop behind the Fox. Yes, I loved the Vat! Memories! I also remember going to films in the Esquire. There used to be a Gay bar close to the Yamhill district I visited whenever I came to Portland. The Half Moon? Also, Dahl & Penny. Geez.... Times are a'changing!

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Yes, the Nordstrom shoe store was on the corner where Abercrombie & Fitch is today. In 1976-77 demolition of the block for the current Nordstrom store was undertaken. Sadly a grand old movie theater with terracotta lions heads was taken down. Hamburger Mary's was a friendly spot at the corner where the Regal Cinema's entrance is. The beloved Vat & Tonsure was in the same block where the entrance to Ringside Fish House is.
That is one thing I wish I could have experienced, Broadway during its theater days because so many of the theaters on that street we have lost were some really beautiful works of architecture.
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WDC Properties have requested Early Assistance to discuss a project at 233 NW 16th Ave:

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Remove existing building. Construct a new multi-story mixed-use building with on site parking. Onsite storm water disposal. Intending to meet the community design standards
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2016, 9:23 PM
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WDC Properties have requested Early Assistance to discuss a project at 233 NW 16th Ave
That's too bad, I really like that little mid-Century modern floating metal box. But it's probably not earthquake safe, and it's definitely not making good use of that 1/4 block site. It's basically just a parking lot with a <5000sf office on top.
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That's too bad, I really like that little mid-Century modern floating metal box. But it's probably not earthquake safe, and it's definitely not making good use of that 1/4 block site. It's basically just a parking lot with a <5000sf office on top.
I used to get allergy shots there. interesting piece of architecture, for sure. weird to think of how that penciled out when it was constructed. they essentially built a building on stilts to accommodate 8 additional cars.
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2016, 9:50 PM
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That building actually came up in conversation recently. Someone said it was a John Storrs building, though I haven't verified.
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That building actually came up in conversation recently. Someone said it was a John Storrs building, though I haven't verified.
interesting - according to Colliers it is a Storrs designed building:

http://www.colliers.com/en-us/portla...ffice-building
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2016, 11:53 PM
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weird to think of how that penciled out when it was constructed. they essentially built a building on stilts to accommodate 8 additional cars.
Those types of buildings were very common, especially during the 1960s/70s for apartment buildings. I used to live in one, and hated it.
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2016, 6:45 AM
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Historic Landmarks Commission approved the Restoration Hardware yesterday.
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