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Justbuildit · #**8141** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 6:27 AM**

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Anyone here wish they never demolished the Embarcadero Freeway? Personally I wish it was still there and was eventually connected with the Golden Gate Bridge. Will they ever build a freeway through the city to the Golden Gate? I guess SF is more of a destination city, not a city you drive through like Oakland.

ChargerCarl · #**8142** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 6:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by Justbuildit

Anyone here wish they never demolished the Embarcadero Freeway? Personally I wish it was still there and was eventually connected with the Golden Gate Bridge. Will they ever build a freeway through the city to the Golden Gate?

This is a troll post right?

coyotetrickster · #**8143** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 3:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Justbuildit

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Anyone here wish they never demolished the Embarcadero Freeway? Personally I wish it was still there and was eventually connected with the Golden Gate Bridge. Will they ever build a freeway through the city to the Golden Gate? I guess SF is more of a destination city, not a city you drive through like Oakland.[/QUOTE]

Everyone in SF, except Rose Pak, was delirious with joy when the Embarcadero Freeway was demolished. No one misses it. There will never be a x-SF Freeway to the bridge. The city proposed such a beast in the 50s and it was rejected wholesale.

ozone · #**8144** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 6:32 PM**

Have you even been to San Francisco Justbuildit? I remember the Embarcadero Freeway. If you'd been around then I doubt you would have made that statement. The only thing the freeway made better was the Vaillancourt Fountain @ Herman Plaza. There was something cool about the way the big ugly fountain juxtaposed with the big ugly freeway overhead. But I'll take the unobstructed view of the of the Ferry Building, open waterfront, sunshine, palm trees, etc. over that any day. Freeway expansion in San Francisco is unnecessary since it's on the edge of the Continent and there's no traffic passing through to get somewhere else. Somehow people have been finding their way across the Golden Gate Bridge without the aid of a massive freeway for 79 years.

emanon · #**8145** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 7:03 PM**

But the best views were from the freeway! Yes, I do miss driving on the Embarcadero Freeway.

Your comment about the "edge of a continent" is specious. Lot's of demand for north/south travel through SF.

ChargerCarl · #**8146** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 7:04 PM**

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But the best views were from the freeway! Yes, I do miss driving on the Embarcadero Freeway.

Your comment about the "edge of a continent" is specious. Lot's of demand for north/south travel through SF.

That land is more efficiently used as urban space.

ozone · #**8147** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by emanon

But the best views were from the freeway! Yes, I do miss driving on the Embarcadero Freeway.

Your comment about the "edge of a continent" is specious. Lot's of demand for north/south travel through SF.

Ha-ha hardly think my comment was specious. Maybe in the myopic world of Bay Area micro-realities it seems so but there's not in fact 'Lot's of demand" for N-S traffic through San Francisco. Go compare the traffic numbers and patterns of other California cities before you reply. There's no reason to build a freeway to the Golden Gate Bridge. If you are arguing with that.. good luck.

mt_climber13 · #**8148** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 7:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by ozone

Have you even been to San Francisco Justbuildit? I remember the Embarcadero Freeway. If you'd been around then I doubt you would have made that statement. The only thing the freeway made better was the Vaillancourt Fountain @ Herman Plaza. There was something cool about the way the big ugly fountain juxtaposed with the big ugly freeway overhead. But I'll take the unobstructed view of the of the Ferry Building, open waterfront, sunshine, palm trees, etc. over that any day. Freeway expansion in San Francisco is unnecessary since it's on the edge of the Continent and there's no traffic passing through to get somewhere else. Somehow people have been finding their way across the Golden Gate Bridge without the aid of a massive freeway for 79 years.

Seeing as how the Bay Bridge is one of the busiest bridges in the country, not even including Golden Gate Bridge traffic, your comment is non- sensical.

Ever been down 19th ave? A freeway (whether it be underground or above ground) would do a lot for the traffic congestion that backs up the entire peninsula. 19th ave. is the deadliest street in SF for pedestrians because of this. Freeways, when constructed intelligently, are not inherently bad.

ChargerCarl · #**8149** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 7:53 PM**

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Seeing as how the Bay Bridge is one of the busiest bridges in the country, not even including Golden Gate Bridge traffic, your comment is non- sensical.

Ever been down 19th ave? A freeway (whether it be underground or above ground) would do a lot for the traffic congestion that backs up the entire peninsula. 19th ave. is the deadliest street in SF for pedestrians because of this. Freeways, when constructed intelligently, are not inherently bad.

So what? There's lots of demand to travel through manhattan as well, but it's still not an efficient use of resources to build a freeway running through it.

ozone · #**8150** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 8:12 PM**

This conversation is dumb. No new freeways are going to be built so why argue about something that's never going to happen?

POLA · #**8151** Posted **Jan 12, 2017, 9:54 PM**

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This is a troll post right?

Yes, stop feeding the troll/assholes.

botoxic · #**8152** Posted **Jan 13, 2017, 7:17 AM**

On San Francisco Bay in mid January by Jake Dear, on Flickr

Look down Market towards Embarcadero by LLux Operon, on Flickr

Good Morning San Francisco by Rex Montalban, on Flickr

emanon · #**8153** Posted **Jan 13, 2017, 4:30 PM**

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Yes, stop feeding the troll/assholes.

So those of us with an opinion different from yours are assholes? You're channeling trump.

emanon · #**8154** Posted **Jan 13, 2017, 4:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by ozone

Ha-ha hardly think my comment was specious. Maybe in the myopic world of Bay Area micro-realities it seems so but there's not in fact 'Lot's of demand" for N-S traffic through San Francisco. Go compare the traffic numbers and patterns of other California cities before you reply. There's no reason to build a freeway to the Golden Gate Bridge. If you are arguing with that.. good luck.

Read my post again. Where did I advocate for building more freeways?

"myopic world of Bay Area micro-realities"? What does that even mean?

If you're calling for stats about travel patterns in other cities, where are yours to prove your point?

pizzaguy · #**8155** Posted **Jan 13, 2017, 5:52 PM**

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So those of us with an opinion different from yours are assholes? You're channeling trump.

jbi has been trolling the SF threads for awhile. He should've been banned by now

viewguysf · #**8156** Posted **Jan 13, 2017, 7:18 PM**

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jbi has been trolling the SF threads for awhile. He should've been banned by now

He has trolled other threads (i.e. LA) too. Ignore him and his juvenile mind.

NOPA · #**8157** Posted **Jan 14, 2017, 10:30 PM**

I do think a tunnel under Divisadero between Lombard(ish) and California would be helpful for North-South travel. Driving over Pac Heights is just awful. Obviously a muni line is not going to happen. Although I doubt you could ever get a tunnel approved.

edwards · #**8158** Posted **Jan 15, 2017, 4:54 AM**

1/14/17

botoxic · #**8159** Posted **Jan 16, 2017, 5:29 PM**

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fimiak · #**8160** Posted **Jan 16, 2017, 8:00 PM**

The west facing side of 181 Fremont (side with the red crane) in the picture above is spectacular. It is like the inverse of the South side, a dark frame and light windows. It is going to look so good. I can't believe SF is getting these amazing buildings all at once.