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Old Posted Aug 22, 2012, 4:10 PM
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God I hope not... The '09-'10 AHL season had 80 games... that'd mean that the Bulldogs accounted for almost half of the events at Copps.
Worse - of the 86 events hosted at Copps in 2010, 51 were Bulldogs games. The event breakdown is on page 33 of KPMG's external review report
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God I hope not... The '09-'10 AHL season had 80 games... that'd mean that the Bulldogs accounted for almost half of the events at Copps.
As markbarbera points out, the balance has been precarious. I referred to page 46 of the audit PDF, where KPMG observes: "The number of event days on an annual basis, between 2007 and 2010, has ranged between 83 and 91 events." And going off the breakdown on that page, yes -- that's including Bulldogs seasons (37 to 51 home game days, 2007-2010). Unclear where multi-day bookings like Cirque du Soleil and Disney on Ice fit in or how much they add to the tally.
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Staff wants council to approve Live Nation/Global Spectrum/Carmen's proposal to operate Copps, Hamilton Place and the Convention Centre.

http://www.hamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyres/...Audit_Revi.pdf
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And it's a done deal, Council approved it. April 1, 2013 the keys are handed over to the Live Nation/Global Spectrum/Carmen group.
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And it's a done deal, Council approved it. April 1, 2013 the keys are handed over to the Live Nation/Global Spectrum/Carmen group.
I'll be really curious to see what happens with this compared to Toronto shows. If LiveNation has something that is a guaranteed sellout in the Golden Horseshoe (Springsteen, Tool etc.) will they be more likely to put it in Copps over the Air Canada Centre? That would be pretty sweet if they did.
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From a concert booking perspective, Copps has a distinct advantage over ACC when it comes to availablity. No pesky NHL or NBA games to work around.
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No pesky NHL or NBA games to work around.
There is the AHL.
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2012, 8:42 PM
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There is the AHL.
True, which accounts for 50 game nights. Meanwhile the ACC has more than double that amount of game nights when you count up just the regular season home games for The Leafs, The Raptors, and The Rock. That gives Copps the edge over ACC for available concert dates in a calendar year.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2012, 2:35 AM
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Bulldogs in competition for Copps lease

http://tablet.thespec.com/article/82...or-copps-lease

The Hamilton Bulldogs have a rival for the use of Copps Coliseum.

Global Spectrum, the company selected by city council to run Copps and Hamilton Place, says it has recently been approached by another hockey organization that wants to use Copps as its home rink.

John Page, CEO of Global Spectrum, says in a confidential letter to council that the company will continue to have lease discussions with the Bulldogs, whose lease expires in June.

But Page is asking council for time to evaluate both options so they can present the best business case to the city.

“We strongly believe due consideration of both options is necessary to make an informed and deliberate decision that ultimately will deliver the greatest benefit to the City of Hamilton and its citizens,” Page wrote.

One source told The Spectator that the rival organization is be the Ontario Hockey League Erie Otters, currently based in Erie, Pa.

One source told The Spectator that the rival organization is be the Ontario Hockey League Erie Otters, currently based in Erie, Pa.

The Bulldogs play in the American Hockey League.

Council discussed the development behind closed doors Tuesday night and then voted to refer the matter to the Hamilton Entertainment and Convention Facilities Inc. subcommittee and release Page’s letter publicly.

“Whoever the competing interest is, the best business case should prevail,” Councillor Terry Whitehead said after the meeting.

The letter from Page sidelined a motion from Mayor Bob Bratina directing city staff to commence lease renewal negotiations with the Bulldogs “with input from the Global Spectrum representatives.”

Bratina pulled the motion back after the in-camera session.

Council is expected to finalize its operating agreement with Global Spectrum in January, with the company taking over management of Copps and Hamilton Place sometime in the spring.

Council is expected to finalize its operating agreement with Global Spectrum in January, with the company taking over management of Copps and Hamilton Place sometime in the spring.

Global Spectrum manages 40 arenas, 13 stadiums, and 32 convention centres around the world. Its parent company owns the NHL Philadelphia Flyers.
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The OHL has a long history in Hamilton: the Red Wings, Fincups, Steelhawks etc. The old Forum and the Mountain Arena were perfect for junior A hockey; however, moving to Copps killed the Steelhawks. I can't imagine things being any different this time round. Let's hold on to the Bulldogs - the AHL is a good fit for Hamilton.
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Glad they'll do a business case before making any decision. I'm liking the privatized operations already.
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It'd be nice if we could have both OHL and AHL, but I doubt we have the population to support it.

I can't imagine the OHL being a good fit for Copp's, though... league-average attendance is 3,687 (based on 2010-11 numbers here), which would look even more ridiculous than the Bulldogs average of nearly 5,000.
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To tell you the truth I think that I would rather have an OHL team here. That way you could have a legit star. With AHL, if they are any good they are likely gone soon anyway.

I do agree that Copps is a killer unless you can create another London Knights.

What happened to the Montreal farm team moving to Laval?
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OHL in Dundas? That would be cool, but I don't think the Market st arena even seats 1,000. Too bad.
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Erie Otters not moving to Hamilton: management

http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/stor...dogs-move.html

Rumors of the Erie Otters moving to Hamilton aren't true, according to Otters management.

“We have zero plans for anything like that at all,” said Paul Roper, media relations manager for the OHL franchise.

Long rumored to be making the move to Hamilton, speculation as to the Otters' place in the city was kicked up again by a letter sent to Hamilton city council on Oct. 26 by Global Spectrum's chief operation's officer John Page.

In the letter, Page asked council to give the organization time to consider plans for Copps Coliseum involving the AHL's Bulldogs and a second “mystery” team — long rumored to be the Otters.

Global Spectrum is to take over management of Copps Coliseum and Hamilton Place from HECFI sometime in the spring.

“Over the course of the last few days we have received interest from another hockey organization to use the Coliseum as their home venue,” Page said. “We have had and will continue to have lease discussions with the Hamilton Bulldogs on renewing their lease, but have not agreed on final lease terms to date.”

Page ended the letter asking matters to be kept private because of the “sensitive nature of existing contractual relationships,” but council voted to release the letter publicly and refer the issue to the HECFI subcommittee.

When reached by phone, Global Spectrum Spokesperson Ike Richman said the company's goal is “to have hockey at Copps.”

When asked if that meant an AHL team or an OHL team, he would only say again, "Our goal is to have hockey at Copps."

Roper said the Otters have just signed a two-year lease extension with the Erie County Convention Centre Authority, so rumors of the move are unfounded. Breaking that lease would no doubt lead to a hefty penalty.

The letter raises some questions about the Bulldogs' future in Hamilton. Rumors have circled that the team could end up moving to Laval, Quebec.

Bulldogs owner Michael Andlauer says though he wants to keep the team in Hamilton, he is frustrated by this whole process.

"My desire was to keep hockey in Hamilton despite all the rumors," he said.

Andlauer says he is looking for a four- to five-year lease for the team at Copps, but there is no way to make things work with a second team in the area.

"You're basically cannibalizing the market," he said. "It's not fair to have both an AHL and an OHL franchise at a similar price point."

"There comes a point where we have to make proper developmental choices for facilities of the Montreal Canadiens," he said.

"We can't just go out on a limb in June and not have a building."
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OHL team likely to get shot at Copps lease

http://tablet.thespec.com/article/84...at-copps-lease

It appears likely an Ontario Hockey League team will be given the opportunity to negotiate a lease with Copps Coliseum, possibly leaving the Hamilton Bulldogs without a home.

Multiple sources tell The Spectator that at a HECFI board meeting on Friday, an OHL franchise — strongly believed to be the Erie Otters — will likely receive the right to begin working on a deal that could see the junior team move to Hamilton in time for the start of next season.

If a deal can be struck, this could mean the end for the American Hockey League franchise that’s called the city home for the past 17 years.

The issue has been up in the air since last spring.

The Bulldogs’ lease at Copps and its affiliation agreement with the Montreal Canadiens both expire after this season. Franchise owner Michael Andlauer says he has been trying to sign an extension on his deal for the past 17 months.

However, back in the spring an unnamed OHL team expressed interest in moving to this city.

Nothing came of that move. But recently, Global Spectrum — the independent management company that is expected to take over operations of Copps — told the HECFI board in a letter that an OHL team had again expressed interest in moving here.

“Recognizing the importance to the city and Global Spectrum of the hockey tenant and associated lease terms, we respectfully request that Global Spectrum be given additional time to evaluate both scenarios so that we can present the best possible business model to the city for approval,” Global Spectrum COO John Page said in a letter addressed to council on Oct. 26.

Hamilton has been home to major junior hockey before. The Red Wings, Fincups, Steelhawks and Dukes have all come and gone.
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I've said this elsewhere, but I'd be surprised if it's Erie. Their arena has just gotten a huge upgrade.

http://www.goerie.com/article/201210...ters-come-home

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Even though Ftorek was focused on his team's first practice of the season on home ice, he was excited about the improvements unfolding in front of them. "It's going to be a really nice change," Ftorek said of the long-awaited $45 million renovation project that started this past winter and is projected to be completed in fall 2013.
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if we get an OHL franchise, sign me up for season tix

would love to see Connor McDavid play here
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OHL's lighter schedule means about a week's worth of dates are freed up for other bookings, which is possibly a bonus.
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Canadiens want Bulldogs to stay at Copps

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...-stay-at-copps

The owner of the Montreal Canadiens has asked the city to extend it's AHL affiliate's lease at Copps Coliseum.

A letter from Geoff Molson was submitted in advance of this morning's HECFI board meeting, asking members to consider the "economic benefit and considerable national exposure" offered by the Hamilton Bulldogs.

Members are meeting in private this morning to talk about lease negotiations for the facility, with the Bulldog's current agreement set to expire.

The Spectator has reported the board is also considering a lease agreement with an OHL team rumored to be the Erie Otters.
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