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J.OT13 · #**261** Posted: **May 23, 2013, 11:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Luker

Lol I was wondering why that wasn't done...

Nonetheless, thank you for posting.

Those plans are from 2007 and I question how accurate they are within the context of are quickly evolving city and its vision (plans).

Oups. Thanks Rocketphish. It looked like it was only a pdf file when I originally opened it. I guess I needed to look up my screen another inch.

I would hope that these are no longer accurate, but the NCC aren't keen on evolving there plans through the years, regardless how outdated they are. (See the greenbelt and parkway system.)

S-Man · #**262** Posted: **May 23, 2013, 11:54 PM**

That NCC document scared me for a lot of reasons. Had to close it.

J.OT13 · #**263** Posted: **May 24, 2013, 12:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by S-Man

That NCC document scared me for a lot of reasons. Had to close it.

Camp fire material.

McC · #**264** Posted: **May 24, 2013, 12:31 AM**

NOOOO don't burn your screen, there's hazmats in there!!!!

brentgaulois · #**265** Posted: **Jun 3, 2013, 3:02 AM**

I did not visit their sales centre (it said 204 Rideau, but not sure where that is exactly, unless it's in the first buildings done). I have another photo I took that's closer to it, but it would be redundant to post it, so you can look on my Flickr photostream if you're curious.

They've got some more cladding up and some floors have windows. From what I counted, I believe they're at the 26th floor, so they're nearly done!

I'm wondering if I'll like this building though. I like tall buildings that are thinner, and this won't have that light green/teal colour. The rounded corners are not as round as those of Claridge Plaza 1 and 2, and balconies are rhombus/square shaped.

Claridge Plaza 3, 4 by Shel DeF on Flickr

kevinbottawa · #**266** Posted: **Jun 3, 2013, 3:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by brentgaulois

I did not visit their sales centre (it said 204 Rideau, but not sure where that is exactly, unless it's in the first buildings done). I have another photo I took that's closer to it, but it would be redundant to post it, so you can look on my Flickr photostream if you're curious.

They've got some more cladding up and some floors have windows. From what I counted, I believe they're at the 26th floor, so they're nearly done!

I'm wondering if I'll like this building though. I like tall buildings that are thinner, and this won't have that light green/teal colour. The rounded corners are not as round as those of Claridge Plaza 1 and 2, and balconies are rhombus/square shaped.

Claridge Plaza 3, 4 by Shel DeF on Flickr

Claridge getting rid of those light green/teal windows is a good idea.

ebrie014 · #**267** Posted: **Jun 3, 2013, 1:08 PM**

I have a meeting in the next few weeks to go through my selection of materials and upgrades. From what I hear the prices are quite ridiculous. I went to see some of the materials this weekend and many standard backsplashes and tiles are terrible forcing you to have to upgrade many things.

Apparently claridge just lowered there prices of all upgrades which would see reasonable given most new condos now come fully upgraded. From what I heard from the sales person at the design centre is that you may be able to negotiate a deal or bargain with the designer when you meet them to price out upgrades.

All I know is I am keeping the laminate counters and will get some nice quartz counters done myself for probably 50% of the price, same goes with the bathroom counter. I am also counting on ripping out the carpet in the bedroom and put my own hardwood. These should be some of the major upgrades where it is possible to do it after closing for much less but certain other things might be easier to try to bargain with the sales centre and try to get a decent deal.

McC · #**268** Posted: **Jun 3, 2013, 1:48 PM**

Hearing about this kind of stuff drives me crazy! If it's just going to be ripped out, why can't a buyer "upgrade" to have the builder install nothing?! It makes me sad to hear about such a waste of time and resources to put something (counters, carpets, cabinets) in only to have a new owner rip them out immediately. This is a general comment about the way we do things, not specific to you ebrie014 (you have to work within the options available to you in the real world), or any specific builder.

Boxster · #**269** Posted: **Jun 3, 2013, 2:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by kevinbottawa

Claridge getting rid of those light green/teal windows is a good idea.

Next on the list - Claridge should learn how to design balconies. These are as bad looking as I and II and way to small to really use.

gjhall · #**270** Posted: **Jun 3, 2013, 3:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by ebrie014

I have a meeting in the next few weeks to go through my selection of materials and upgrades. From what I hear the prices are quite ridiculous. I went to see some of the materials this weekend and many standard backsplashes and tiles are terrible forcing you to have to upgrade many things.

Apparently claridge just lowered there prices of all upgrades which would see reasonable given most new condos now come fully upgraded. From what I heard from the sales person at the design centre is that you may be able to negotiate a deal or bargain with the designer when you meet them to price out upgrades.

All I know is I am keeping the laminate counters and will get some nice quartz counters done myself for probably 50% of the price, same goes with the bathroom counter. I am also counting on ripping out the carpet in the bedroom and put my own hardwood. These should be some of the major upgrades where it is possible to do it after closing for much less but certain other things might be easier to try to bargain with the sales centre and try to get a decent deal.

Adding to what McC said, do try to just have no countertops and no carpet installed rather than having them ripped up if you can!

gjhall · #**271** Posted: **Jun 3, 2013, 3:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by brentgaulois

I did not visit their sales centre (it said 204 Rideau, but not sure where that is exactly, unless it's in the first buildings done).

It's in CP I, between Rexall and the entrance to the condo.

Boxster · #**272** Posted: **Jun 3, 2013, 3:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by gjhall

Adding to what McC said, do try to just have no countertops and no carpet installed rather than having them ripped up if you can!

If you have a mortage against the unit, they need to finish the unit before the bank advances the funds.

Kitchissippi · #**273** Posted: **Jun 3, 2013, 4:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by gjhall

Adding to what McC said, do try to just have no countertops and no carpet installed rather than having them ripped up if you can!

I don't think you can get an occupancy permit from the city if these are missing.

It's crafty that model suites/homes are usually all done up with upgrades, which hardly gives buyers a clear idea of what they'll actually get for base price. I would live with the standard stuff for 5+ years to get some good use out of it, then change it out later especially when there's a newer decorating trend that real outdates what's there.

gjhall · #**274** Posted: **Jun 3, 2013, 8:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Boxster

If you have a mortage against the unit, they need to finish the unit before the bank advances the funds.

That is particularly lame.

McC · #**275** Posted: **Jun 4, 2013, 1:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by gjhall

That is particularly lame.

Seriously, you can buy any old house or apartment that is not a new build, and get mortgage even if there's no countertops, or missing flooring. heck, if it's in a desirable part of town, and you have good credit, they'll give you a BIGGER mortgage so you have cash to install really nice flooring and counters to increase the value of (what is in many respects at the beginning of a mortgage) their asset.

JackBauer24 · #**276** Posted: **Jun 4, 2013, 5:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by McC

Hearing about this kind of stuff drives me crazy! If it's just going to be ripped out, why can't a buyer "upgrade" to have the builder install nothing?! It makes me sad to hear about such a waste of time and resources to put something (counters, carpets, cabinets) in only to have a new owner rip them out immediately. This is a general comment about the way we do things, not specific to you ebrie014 (you have to work within the options available to you in the real world), or any specific builder.

To answer your questions about having the builder install nothing - short answer: it's against code. When you close on your condo or new home, the builder has to provide essential elements (completed/functional kitchen, flooring, running water, etc...), even if the owner is going to tear them out the minute they step foot into the home.

Next, not to be rude to anyone here that bought a condo from Claridge - but what did you expect?
Their prices are usually lower (though not substantially lower) than their direct competition, so how would they be able to provide an equivalent or greater quality condo?
I've said this before, and I'll say it again, price/ sq. ft. is a great way to start to condo comparison, but that comparison only works if the square feet are the same - meaning, are the materials being used the same quality in condo A v condo B?
So the next time you come across a great deal at condo site A that condo site B couldn't match, there's probably a good reason for that. Dig into the specs a little deeper or ask to see a past completed project, that'll usually answer the question "Why are your prices so cheap?"

JackBauer24 · #**277** Posted: **Jun 4, 2013, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by McC

Seriously, you can buy any old house or apartment that is not a new build, and get mortgage even if there's no countertops, or missing flooring. heck, if it's in a desirable part of town, and you have good credit, they'll give you a BIGGER mortgage so you have cash to install really nice flooring and counters to increase the value of (what is in many respects at the beginning of a mortgage) their asset.

The key terms in there was "not a new build". New builders have a lot more hoops to jump through than your individual investor or home owner and are also subject to potential lawsuits should they not meet the minimum build code.

McC · #**278** Posted: **Jun 4, 2013, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by JackBauer24

To answer your questions about having the builder install nothing - short answer: it's against code. When you close on your condo or new home, the builder has to provide essential elements (completed/functional kitchen, flooring, running water, etc...), even if the owner is going to tear them out the minute they step foot into the home.

I'm learning that those are the rules, but it's a silly, wasteful rule; I remain to be convinced why consenting adults shouldn't be able to agree to buy a newly-built unit with no countertops involved as long as everything is documented and signed.

JackBauer24 · #**279** Posted: **Jun 4, 2013, 5:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by McC

I remain to be convinced why consenting adults shouldn't be able to agree to buy a newly-built unit with no countertops involved as long as everything is documented and signed.

Because real estate lawyers wouldn't have much else to do. I mean, come on, title searching gets boring after awhile.