Winnipeg City Transit/Rapid Transit

[wags_in_the_peg]

sorry to breakup the discussion on how many busses Transit had out on Canada day.



New Flyer introduces new cooling system

New Flyer Industries is installing a new type of cooling system in its transit buses that improves fuel efficiency and reduces exhaust emissions.

The next generation, electrified cooling system is designed and manufactured by Engineered Machined Products Inc., of Escanaba, Mi.

EMP's new "mini-Hybrid" cooling systems use an array of powerful, reversible fans monitored by a sophisticated electronic control module to cool the bus's engine. It will replace a conventional cooling system which uses a radiator, charge air cooler and hydraulic fan.

"Our market demands that we continue to utilize the most environmentally friendly technologies available to improve fuel efficiency and reduce emissions," New Flyer vice-president Paul Smith said in a statement released today.

[Archiseek]

Pity they wouldn't install a cooling system for passengers on the majority of wpgtrans buses

[Only The Lonely..]

Daniel Jared Hildebrand sent a message to the members of Winnipeggers for Better Public Transit.--------------------
Subject: FW: Rapid Transit Dig-In

As you know, Mayor Katz has announced a self-imposed deadline of July 18 to reveal how he plans to use the $18 million that has been offered by the Federal Government for improvements to public transit & alternative transportation.

The Winnipeg Rapid Transit Coalition is planning at least one more public event to keep the pressure on the Mayor and city council to assure that Winnipeg's share of this funding is used for the construction of the first leg of the rapid transit corridor that will eventually run from the University of Manitoba, through downtown and out toward Transcona.

The event: A Dig-In: If the city won't get this project moving, then we will!

Date: Friday, July 4, 2008 at 12:15 noon

Location: along the CN Mainline, across the tracks from Confusion Corner.

How to get there: If travelling south from downtown, come down Osborne, through Confusion Corner and the underpass under the CN Mainline. Just as one comes up from under the underpass there is a little road on the left that goes east toward the river. (On the opposite side of Osborne is the Red River Co-op gas bar.) This is Mulvey Ave East. Turn left on Mulvey and go past a large rust-brown building where there are a number of businesses, including The Great White North. At the end of the rust-brown building turn left again (north) and go north along the gravel road past the rust building. Continue on to the back of the bright blue building that is marked "CG Storage". Behind the blue building there are loading docks for Riverbend Movers; across from the loading docks is a circular area for parking. We have checked out with Riverbend, and they say we can park here. (Alternately, there is street parking on Mulvey East, beside the rust-coloured building).

Once parked, if you look northeast, you will see a little path that follows the CN line toward Union Station. At that scenic spot, with the skyline of the city as our background, we will hold our dig-in.

(Be careful turning left after the underpass, as the cars behind you will not be expecting you to take a left there. You might want to drive a little farther south along Osborne and approach the turn on Mulvey from the south.)

There are transit stops on both sides of Osborne at Mulvey.

Please bring, if you can, picks, spades, shovels, wheel-barrows, hard hats, etc. For those without, we will have extra tools that you can use.

Among the photo-ops we will be creating will be the famous "Last Spike" photo that we will recreate as "The First Spade".

We are hoping to have a wide varierty of participants so as to indicate the extensive support that Rapid Transit has among Winnipeggers -- and of course to make for more interesting images! So bring your children and your grand-parents, and together we will get our city moving!

For more information, contact Thomas at 287-8583 / tnovak@mts.net or Paul Hesse at paul_hesse@hotmail.com

[1ajs]

to bad i was working

Rapid Transit Lobby Group Starts Building
CJOB's Lorne Edwards reporting
7/4/2008

Winnipeg's Rapid Transit Coalition got tired of waiting. So the lobby group got the ball rolling Friday by putting shovels in the ground just south of confusion corner.

Spokesman Thomas Novak tells CJOB, there's even money available
Novak says now is the perfect time to get started with people aggressively searching for alternatives to driving their cars.

[vid]

I'm working on an SVG map of Winnipeg's subway ()

Here is what I have: link to gigantic image

The routes are sort of symmetrical (I wonder if that was intentional) and was wondering if that was easy to read or if I should go back to a map based more on geography? The dots in the centre represent what line the station is on and the black ones are stations with two lines. Blank grey things are areas where there are track but no station and are more for my reference so just ignore them.

[LilZebra]

So does anyone know why Mayor Katz has delayed making a decision about the $17.9 M from the Feds, pushing the original deadline from July 18, 2008 to sometime around July 31st, 2008.

Is he perhaps waiting for TRUWinnipeg to come up with a "business plan" for the Winnipeg subway? I heard him say that this is required for a rapid transit system in Winnipeg.

Is this the same thing as a "Cost-Benefit Analysis".
And the C-B A's I've seen on the Net tend to be relatively short Powerpoint type documents.

1. Intro/Background
2. Cost
3. Benefit
4. Conclusion

[Tower Crane]

Originally Posted by jimj_wpg

So does anyone know why Mayor Katz has delayed making a decision about the $17.9 M from the Feds, pushing the original deadline from July 18, 2008 to sometime around July 31st, 2008.

Is he perhaps waiting for TRUWinnipeg to come up with a "business plan" for the Winnipeg subway? I heard him say that this is required for a rapid transit system in Winnipeg.

Is this the same thing as a "Cost-Benefit Analysis".
And the C-B A's I've seen on the Net tend to be relatively short Powerpoint type documents.

1. Intro/Background
2. Cost
3. Benefit
4. Conclusion

Is this Subway mentioning for real? The very discussion of a subway would have to come with a price in the 100's of millions if not a billion dollar cost plus train and operating costs.
Where have they come up with that type of money.

[Greco Roman]

Originally Posted by Tower Crane

Is this Subway mentioning for real? The very discussion of a subway would have to come with a price in the 100's of millions if not a billion dollar cost plus train and operating costs.
Where have they come up with that type of money.

They got a loan from the Bank of Calgary

[1ajs]

^^^ lol i wish speacly if they went out and did it right with no cut backs

[Spocket]

The simple fact of the matter is that as long as Katz is in office, we'll never see a dime committed towards any form of rapid transit unless it's to fund another study as a delaying tactic. He'll push back dead-lines, redirect funds, and give us the runaround for as long as he's holding the reins of power in this city. That's just the way it's going to be and going to stay. The only thing we can hope for from Katz on this front is some minor improvements if we're lucky (and they'll probably be cosmetic at best)

Katz just isn't a forward-thinking guy and we'll have to wait for him to either step down or be voted out if we ever want to see rapid transit in Winnipeg.

[Tower Crane]

Originally Posted by Greco Roman

They got a loan from the Bank of Calgary

That's just Silly. I'm wondering about how a subway is being considered / financed and your making jokes.

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by Tower Crane

That's just Silly. I'm wondering about how a subway is being considered / financed and your making jokes.

The Mint is in Winnipeg so we went in after hours and churned out a few billion extra loonies to pay for the new subway. We're storing them in Adrian's basement for the time being.

[1ajs]

i thought it was toonies

[LilZebra]

Originally Posted by Tower Crane

Is this Subway mentioning for real? The very discussion of a subway would have to come with a price in the 100's of millions if not a billion dollar cost plus train and operating costs.
Where have they come up with that type of money.

Same place as B.C. got it from, the Federal Government...

We can get a grant called the "Building Canada Fund".

http://www.buildingcanada-chantiersc...index-eng.html

Calgary C-Train expansion was paid for thru this program:
http://www.infrastructure.gc.ca/ip-p...algary_e.shtml

Building Canada Fund to invest in LRT for Kitchener-Waterloo:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/stor...re-080724.html

[vid]

Toonies would be better, they take up less space per dollar value.

[Tower Crane]

Maybe they can come up with a system to use the loonies as the wheels. There not doing any good in someone's basement.

[1ajs]

Winnipeg labour dispute will hit morning transit service

Last Updated: Thursday, July 24, 2008 | 3:45 PM CT Comments18Recommend20

CBC News


Winnipeg Transit is warning bus riders to expect delays Friday morning due to job action by its drivers.
The Amalgamated Transit Union Local 1505, which represents about 1,000 bus drivers and 250 maintenance workers in Winnipeg, has rejected the city's latest contract offer and is in an immediate strike position.
The union told its members to report for their regular shifts, but to refuse overtime starting on Friday. Some drivers put in more than 2½ hours of overtime every day due to a shortage of drivers and illness, union officials said.
Winnipeg Transit head Dave Wardrop said overtime hours keep city buses running during peak times, but ATU's action means the won't have enough drivers for all buses.
As a result, about 15 to 20 buses will not run Friday morning, Wardrop said Thursday afternoon.
Wardrop said Winnipeg Transit would post information about affected routes on its website.
The afternoon commute should not be affected, he said.
Union members voted against the city's second contract offer 640 to 349 Wednesday afternoon. Major contract issues include wages and working conditions.
As the drivers' job action continues, the city will examine its options in the dispute, Wardrop said, an answer he repeated when asked whether a lockout is possible.
If the union withdraws services entirely, Winnipeggers should be prepared to make alternate travel plans, including car pooling, walking or biking, Wardrop said. Handi-Transit service is expected to continue as usual.
Winnipeg Transit moves more than 130,000 people each weekday, city officials said.
The last transit strike in Winnipeg was in the winter of 1976. It dragged on for 1½ months.

[Greco Roman]

Originally Posted by Tower Crane

That's just Silly. I'm wondering about how a subway is being considered / financed and your making jokes.

The thing is that your posts appear to make jokes about everything in Winnipeg and that Winnipeg does, because you know, we aren't as great and almighty as Edmonton or Calgary like you seem to think

I'm sick of the fucking trolls already

Go shit on another "sub-par" city for a change, won't you? And take Markus41 with you.....................

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Greco Roman

The thing is that your posts appear to make jokes about everything Winnipeg, because you know, we aren't as great and almighty as Edmonton or Calgary like you seem to think

I'm sick of the fucking trolls already

Go shit on another "sub-par" city for a change, won't you? And take Markus41 with you.....................

no how about don't shit on any city period......

[sledhead35]