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Old Posted Aug 13, 2006, 5:28 PM
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Thanks, Bobdreamz! Some pretty impressive photography there! So much construction in what is only the first or second wave of what is to come!Steve
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2006, 5:58 PM
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Work begins on 617-foot tall Met 2 office tower:

http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/060817/story1.shtml

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Work begins on Met 2 offices

By Marilyn Bowden
Groundwork is under way at Met 2, the office component of the Metropolitan Miami project downtown, with the start of vertical construction probable in six months.
"We have the site permit, which allows us to do foundation work up to the level of the top of the piles," said leasing representative Jack Lowell, vice chairman of Flagler Development Corp., formerly Codina Realty Group.
Site and foundation work, which requires another permit and would cover development of the ground floor, will be finished in about six months, he said, when developer MDM Group USA expects to have the full building permit in place.
"We are building regardless of whether we have a tenant signed or not," Mr. Lowell said. He said he expects the Met to field one of several large financial tenants looking for space.
The 47-story tower at 200 SE Third St. will house about 750,000 rentable square feet of office space, Mr. Lowell said, as well as a garage and a 376-room Marriott Marquis Hotel.
Completion is expected in early 2009.
The Met's major competitors are proposed office buildings at 1450 and 600 Brickell Ave., just across the Brickell Bridge. The 35-story, 585,055-square-foot 1450 Brickell, a project of Rilea Group, could make it to the market first, said leasing representative John Marshall, because it is a smaller building. Construction is expected to start there when a major tenant is signed.
A major use special permit has been granted to the Foram Group for a mixed-use project at 600 Brickell Ave., the first phase of which would be a 36-story tower containing 490,126 square feet of office space. The permit requires a construction start within two years. The second phase, slated for a 2011 start, would add another 463,483 square feet of offices.
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2006, 7:05 PM
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dave this is incredible news!!....the first significant office building in the heart of the CBD since the 80s finally gets underway!! I'm also glad that Flagler/Codina are involved as they surely get this built.
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Latest news has MLB looking at a downtown Miami site for a new ballpark for the Marlins. The site is just south of the "old" Miami Arena, which means it would be located just off of I 95, and right next to a Metrorail Station. How great would it be to have the new Met 3 building peering into the stadium over the right field wall when the roof was open?
Still gotta find funding, tho...
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2006, 2:47 AM
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At this point it may be a toss-up between which is less likely to be built between the stadium and Met 3.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2006, 7:04 PM
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This project being dead isn't news but burried in the article was the fact that Platinum on the Bay was originally to be a new tallest before the FAA chopped it down:

http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/...l?surround=lfn

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The asking price for Miami's Platinum on the Bay: $44 million.

The Redondo development family has put its second residential condominium tower project on the market. The 320-unit luxury Platinum on the Bay is to rise 56 stories from the edge of Biscayne Bay at Northeast 29th Street.

"Since the market has changed, we're selling the site now," said Carmen Redondo, who doubles as family broker for Kamany Realty.

Platinum on the Bay is listed with LoopNet.

The project ran into trouble more than a year ago due to Federal Aviation Administration height restrictions.

The family, which does business as Maysville Inc., had originally hoped to build up to 825 feet.


But in May 2005, the FAA said the building would need to conform with two other nearby structures, both of which topped out at 544 feet.

The family's first project, Platinum, is expected to be completed in October. Redondo said they have sold more than 80 percent of that project.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2006, 4:28 AM
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At this point it may be a toss-up between which is less likely to be built between the stadium and Met 3.
Met3 has been delayed ridden, but it is happening, no doubt. We are going to see a lot of projects never happen. Met3 is not one of them.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2006, 3:12 PM
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Met3 has been delayed ridden, but it is happening, no doubt. We are going to see a lot of projects never happen. Met3 is not one of them.
This is comforting, MAH. I trust you have a bit of inside info ?
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This project being dead isn't news but burried in the article was the fact that Platinum on the Bay was originally to be a new tallest before the FAA chopped it down:

http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/...l?surround=lfn
Seems academic though, seeing as how they didn't have the goods to build it at 544'.
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anybody know what's up with SSC?
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anybody know what's up with SSC?
no clue, but glad to see it's not just my computer/internet.
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^ they are changing over servers or something. supposed to take a few days.
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yes it's the dupont site. Here's a shot of the one under construction. There's two planned, you can see them on the first page.


This is such a cool pic. but I dont know that much about miami. Are all of these built or are many of these renders of what will be there?
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Old Posted Aug 28, 2006, 3:11 AM
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All are built.
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^ except the lit up one in the middle which is a rendering and is currently u/c
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MLB Stadium

I really hope the stadium doesn't get built. Not that many people care about baseball down here, and it would be a waste od CBD land to build yet another stadium/arena. The park west/ east overtown area would be an sports complex wasteland, effectively inhibiting the earea from developing any real street life. Stadiums and arenas are drains on economies and on neighborhoods and on tax bases. This is the latest understanidng of sports economics in opposoition to the previously held wisdom about such complexes. I hope our tax dollars are spent on much more worthwhile ventures (although with the corruption in Miami.. ie public health trust, affrodable housing scam, fire fee scandal, Jackson Hospital no bid contracts, etc.... I doubt anything good will happen).
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2006, 8:30 PM
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I''d rather have my money go to building a stadium for a team that brought us not one, but two World Series championships in a matter of 13 years than going into the pockets of corrupt politicians.
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Corrupt politicians make money through wasteful projects like the stadium. The money taxpayers give for a staudium would flow directly to the contractors and developers who build the stadium and sell the land, as well as the corporate heads of MLB and the Marlins. Politicians make money by being in power and being able to support projects that they in turn stand to gain from. They do not care if a huge chunk of concrete will forever ruin the prospects of a developing area of downtown. The will always frame their private ventures as "serving the public good." Read this next story i will post from the MiamiTodayNews to see the process at work.
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Citisquare: Political cash cow

v=City shouldn't give a $200 million gift for an urban eyesore
By Michael Lewis
Such temerity: The developer of City Square at the Miami Herald site is asking Miami's government to fund the full $200 million cost of the retail mall's parking garage - nearly $50,000 per parking space.
Last year, the entire project of 641,104 square feet of retail, the parking and two 62-story residential towers was reported to cost $370 million. So the city is being asked to contribute more than half of everything, just to build parking for the developer.
What's wrong with this picture? Everything.
Of course, construction costs have risen. Yet a May report the developer commissioned said the cost of constructing the retail plus parking is $277.3 million, of which government is being asked to pay $200 million for the privilege of - what?
Well, if the city's Omni Community Redevelopment Agency were to put up $200 million, Maefield Development of Indiana would put up a 130-foot-tall mall plastered with 90-foot-tall electronic billboards next to the county's new performing-arts center. Just think, a taxpayer-supported eyesore rising where government took pains to keep out high-rise condos that could mar arts center patrons' view and where it sought to sink an expressway below grade to keep the vista clear.
But we'd be getting more. There'd be 1,528 parking spaces that would meet more than half the arts center's needs - presumably at high cost to patrons and great profits to developers. There'd be 1,780 spaces for shoppers. And there'd be 744 spaces for the Miami Herald, whose parking lots developers would buy for $190 million as the project's site.
Why, now that I think of it, a $200 million city subsidy would cover all the land cost and then some. And the Herald's owners would be able to unload the site, which has languished under a sell agreement since March 2005 as the condo boom evaporated. The city's $200 million would funnel cash to the McClatchy Co. to trim debt it just incurred in buying the Herald.
See how well all of this can work out? The developer gets the city to pay for the land, the Herald's parent gets the money, the Herald gets its parking spaces and the property on which the Herald building sits - which is being rezoned for massive residential towers - would become saleable, too.
It's a win-win for everybody - unless you consider the public. But, hey, you can't please everyone.
Project plans long had been announced when Maefield wrote to the city this month asking for $200 million. Until a few weeks ago, not a penny of government money had been under consideration.
Why should government fund an eyesore?
Well, the developer wrote, "Maefield Holdings, LLC, is interested in your participation with a direct financial contribution to offset the high costs associated with delivering a world-class development for the benefit of the City of Miami. As such, the Omni CRA financial commitment will maximize the benefit delivered to the residents in the current environment of increasing construction costs and high land prices."
I didn't know the project was to benefit the City of Miami at all. I had imagined it was an investment from which developers expected to profit, not a public service. Silly me.
And how much exactly have the land prices risen since the contract to buy was cut 18 months ago? Seems like $190 million then is the same as $190 million now - far too much. But why should the city bail someone out of a bad deal or rescue McClatchy?
In fact, government has no business paying anyone to build on a $190 million site, some of the community's most expensive land. Though it's in a redevelopment zone, the area has been booming with buildings that were paid for by developers, not the city. This is not urban renewal.
In fact, it may not even be good for Miami. Looking at a mall the equivalent of 13 stories covered with nine-story electronic billboards, the city's planning report says, "the quality and location of signage in the project is excessive and does not meet Zoning Code." It calls the billboards "large-scale advertisement panels."
Two issues intersect here: Should the city allow the project at all, and should the public finance it?
The Omni Community Redevelopment Agency is to address city funding Sept. 5, though commissioners would have final say as to whether the city would enrich developers to gain nothing more than they were promised at no public cost six weeks ago.
Then Sept. 7, a special commission meeting will consider zoning approval that McClatchy, the Herald's owner, requires for the mall's building permit.
We're no fans of massive billboards, now barred here for good reason. Making them electronic is worse. Sticking them outside the performing-arts center is doubly offensive.
But that's aesthetics. Presumably, some people like highways with billboards every 20 feet. Somebody somewhere must like 90-foot electronic signs. There's no accounting for taste.
But there should be accounting for public money. This community has a history of cutting atrocious deals with developers of public projects, but a big-box mall is no more a public project than is an office building or a condo tower. There is no reason to consider a subsidy of any amount.
Then again, considering those who would benefit from the deal, you never know, do you?
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2006, 1:32 PM
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Totally disagree with your views. A downtown ballpark would just enhance the downtown core with another attraction to get people downtown. I've been to Baltimore recently, and you would not believe how the Orioles ballpark brings THOUSANDS of people to the downtown area even on a Sunday. You can't tell me that Camden Yards has not helped the downtown economy. Sorry.
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