Emporis List of Cities with the most skyscrapers

[MonkeyRonin]

I know what Sao Paulo is.

See that tall, slender building at the front-centre? Thats the 165 m Edificio Italia - the second tallest tower in SP, everything else is significantly smaller. As I said before, the city undoubtedly has more than 63 towers over 100 m, however, by and large its not a "skyscraper" city, its a high-rise city.

[jd3189]

Originally Posted by le_brew

# City Number of skyscrapers from Emporis
1 Hong Kong 1,221
2 New York City 563

I don't believe this. I know Hong Kong has more higher skyscrapers than New York,but not almost twice as much. I think Emporis was just concentrating on Manhattan. Not saying that it's a lie,but it seems unrealistic.

[MonkeyRonin]

Originally Posted by jd3189

I don't believe this. I know Hong Kong has more higher skyscrapers than New York,but not almost twice as much. I think Emporis was just concentrating on Manhattan. Not saying that it's a lie,but it seems unrealistic.

All data is based on the city proper, so no, its not just Manhattan, its all of NYC. If New York's data is inaccurate, then once again, its because of poor data reporting - however, things seem pretty accurate and well reported there, as with the rest of the North America, Europe, and some cities elsewhere. If there are any missing high-rises in New York, they are most likely of the <100 m variety (i.e. not relevant to the content of this thread).

[dave8721]

I see 4 North American suburbs (or non-central cities or whatever you want call them) made the list.
#75 Mississauga 17
#81 Jersey City 16
#86 Miami Beach 15
#89 Sunny Isles Beach 15 (actually has 17)

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

All data is based on the city proper, so no, its not just Manhattan, its all of NYC.

I was also skeptical of the HK and NYC numbers so looked at the Emporis counts.

Emporis lists more completed 500 ft+ buildings in NYC than HK. Just a few more, but definitely more. They also list more at the 600ft+ level and at the 400ft+ level.

If they're also counting u/c, they also list more 500 ft+ u/c in NYC than HK, so that isn't the source of the discrepency.

So I don't understand the discrepency between the Emporis database and their overall counts. Why does the database list more in NYC, when this aggregate list has more in HK?

Any Emporis insiders here?

[J. Will]

Originally Posted by jd3189

I don't believe this. I know Hong Kong has more higher skyscrapers than New York,but not almost twice as much. I think Emporis was just concentrating on Manhattan. Not saying that it's a lie,but it seems unrealistic.

Wrong. That number is not just Manhattan. There aren't many buildings over 100m in NYC outside Manhattan anyways. There are some, but not a tonne.

[J. Will]

Originally Posted by Crawford

I was also skeptical of the HK and NYC numbers so looked at the Emporis counts.

Emporis lists more completed 500 ft+ buildings in NYC than HK. Just a few more, but definitely more. They also list more at the 600ft+ level and at the 400ft+ level.

If they're also counting u/c, they also list more 500 ft+ u/c in NYC than HK, so that isn't the source of the discrepency.

So I don't understand the discrepency between the Emporis database and their overall counts. Why does the database list more in NYC, when this aggregate list has more in HK?

Any Emporis insiders here?

Didn't we already establish that this is 100m+, not 500ft+

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by J. Will

Didn't we already establish that this is 100m+, not 500ft+

Ok, then assuming 100m, the same problems apply. The Emporis database doesn't match their list.

At roughly 100m, Emporis lists 720 for Hong Kong and 664 for NYC.

So, again, why the discrepency? They are similar at most levels, with NYC higher at some cutoffs and HK higher at other cutoffs. But, at any level, they are in a similar range.

[WhipperSnapper]

You're not taking into account skyscrapers with unknown heights where Hong Kong widely outnumbers New York City.

Hong Kong
http://www.emporis.com/city/hongkong...g-buildings/45

New York City
http://www.emporis.com/city/newyorkc...-buildings/160

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

You're not taking into account skyscrapers with unknown heights where Hong Kong widely outnumbers New York City.

I don't get it.

If a building has an unknown height, then how can the building be included in a relative comparison of building heights?

They just make educated guesses, based on floor counts?

[jd3189]

Originally Posted by J. Will

Wrong. That number is not just Manhattan. There aren't many buildings over 100m in NYC outside Manhattan anyways. There are some, but not a tonne.

I guess so. But Hong Kong isn't one city. It almost like its own country, although it's a part of China. But New York might catch up one day, if buildings clusters can be done in Brooklyn, Queens,or even Jersey City. Could even say at this moment,Toronto could too.