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Originally Posted by hughfb3
One project cancellation does not equate to the demise of an entire economic cycle, nor is it evidence of such things occurring. Many cancellation would provide insight into this. But judging by the past 4 days in the downtown LA thread 2 high rise projects have broken ground or are in site prep... Just in the past 4 days.
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I was being sarcastic, I really need to work on the sarcasm thing in text form. I'm one of the main ones skeptical about any significant economic downturn predictions anytime soon.
A spokesperson from the developers finally contacted me. Nimbys did in fact throw up a minor road block. The parking lot is temporary. They plan on going forward later this year or early next year.
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Originally Posted by King Kill 'em
I never would have thought long beach had a NIMBY problem.
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Oh its really bad but goes unnoticed, Long Beach tends to go unnoticed sometimes in the bigger LA picture. Nimbys have killed or downsized
SO MANY projects. I love Long Beach but its nimbys are on par with Santa Monica but just a little more insane and contradictory.
"Less density, more bikelanes , wider streets, more one way streets, shrink sidewalks, we need street cars, no street cars, more adaptive reuse, kill the airport, throw more money at the struggling aquarium, get rid of the Queen Mary, kill any development near the Queen Mary, dismantle the breakwater, leave the breakwater, reroute the LA river, Reroute the 710, limit high rise development, kill any sports franchises, kill theme parks and Casinos"
^^^ These are just some recent examples. As you can see, some are good, some are ridiculous, some are contradictory and some make you want to scream. At least in Santa Monica there seems to be a genuine consensus for what the nimby groups want. In Long Beach we have different nimby groups all with different agendas.
There was once a plan to add street cars through downtown long beach, nimbys killed it.
They have killed, from my knowledge, 9 towers in the past 15 years (each one getting downsized to a 5 story shit box or nothing at all).
Not many people know this but Disney actually wanted California Adventure to be built in the Long Beach Harbor. Nimbys killed it saying they didn't want the traffic congestion. (but yet they settled for a watered down version of the Pike with a Ferris Wheel and Carousel)
Not to mention the Baseball stadium proposed next to the Queen Mary they killed back in the early 2000s.
(I think that was back when the Padres was looking for a new home, before San Diego caved and built Petco park, funny how history is repeating itself with the Chargers this time).
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