LAS VEGAS | Boom Project Rundown! 2.0

[sky-of-webs]

I'm kind of curious as to who would care about a shadow in Vegas unless it went across their pool area. And being north of all the close properties, only in the summer morning and late evening would there be a chance of a shadow.
The fontainbleau is huge.

[sky-of-webs]

Man that tower just keeps looking better with every rendering.

[future29]

Originally Posted by ScottG

kinda weird that there are three 'sky lobbies'..notice the top floor is an observation deck.......so then why have the stratosphere anymore??????

did you think they would build something this high and not make an observation deck?

[mdiederi]

Originally Posted by sky-of-webs

The fontainbleau is huge.

Have there been any renders of Fontainebleau? I think this is the first mock up I've seen of it. Hope it's not just another big box. Originally it was supposed to be taller and probably more slender.

[Patrick]

Allure Turned out great, very fast construction, popped up out of nowhere.
Turnberry, eeh those elevator shafts are an eyesore.

The Las Vegas Tower, LAME NAME. But hey, its growing on me. I still dont really like the whole "shape" its not bad as the one in London, now thats a nastly looking building (30 St. Mary Axe, or whatever its called)

It looks good from the corner angles. Its nice and tall, but two tall. I really dont like how that thing might be the 2nd tallest in the USA. I hope it really gets redesigned.

Fontainebleau looks promising, tall, nice shape.

[Don Pacho]

Eagle Point & Skywalk
Grand Canyon West, Arizona
As of Nov 24, 2006

I could not see much of the Skywalk project since the site is closed from the public view.
However, a chief of the Hualapai tribe describes proudly the beauty of this area:




Here is a small video (about 12 secs) I took of this zone:

Grand Canyon West – Eagle Point


That small concrete or metal object at the left side on the top is the only visible thing to the public.
This will be the view that people will be able to see from skywalk:




The billboard in front of the site:




Notice that the rendering shows a similar eagle, one of the canyon attractions people will be able to see from the skywalk.
The eagle:




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[sky-of-webs]

The sky lobbies break up the tower into different sections served by local elevators, each sky lobby is served by one or two express elevators. Its the only way to have a tall building that wouldn't be completely full of elevator shafts. There is only one observation deck(s) (note the strat is several floors high).

[hulahoop]

I think the Last Vegas Tower has a great shape, much better than the Ivana. It really is world class architecture, but I don't think it really needs to be so tall to be a very positive addition to the Las Vegas sky line.

If it were a 100 to 150 meters shorter, it still would be higher than the very tip of the stratosphere, and therefor the tallest structure West of the Mississippi. It could still have the highest observation deck in Las Vegas, depending on where they placed it.

If it were at least a 100 meters shorter it would also "fit" into the strip much better. I like the way that the North Strip hotels (Wynn, Encore, Trump Palazzo) create (or will create) an upward diaganol line toward the stratosphere. The LVT as presently planned would be way out of proportion to the rest of Las Vegas, kind of like how the World Trade Center was for the rest of the New York skyline.

Finally, if it were a 100-150 meters shorter, I don't think that its architectural beauty would be compromised. In fact, I think some of its proportions might be improved.

Milam may already be thinking in these terms, and may be asking permission for over 550 meters, when he may only really be aiming for 450. I'm curious about the forums' consensus on whether the tower would be diminished aesthetically by being shorter?

[Steven C.]

FYI, dont know whether it is TRUE, but i pass the Ivana site each day, and it says on the sign that it was APPROVED with the FAA for 923 ft (or something around that height)

that true? or did someone say that hight was a problem with that project and the surrounding views etc?

[ScottG]

Originally Posted by future29

did you think they would build something this high and not make an observation deck?

no but im thinking the stratosphere aint liking that.

Ive seen soome rough rendering of fountainblue a while ago, and it doesnt look like that.

its more like the palazzo...with out the 3rd back leg....then rotate it 180 degrees, the 2 side legs bend to the east like the aladinn. and its all glass...and blue/silver. BUT it was an early design so who knows!

they said it was to mimic a razor...?

and LV TOWER looks great...curios as to why so many renderings are popping up...and from where?
im likeing all the evidence of work that has been put into the planning! this should keep us talking for a while

EDIT...

i just looked at the fountainblaeu massing again ..and that actually was the same design i saw a while back, except the views were from the riviera road...so maybe the hotel front is goin to face the south..also notice how the hotel tower and the turnberry towers are all facing the same direction...maybe to not abstruct the views from the condo units....

[LMich]

Originally Posted by Steven C.

FYI, dont know whether it is TRUE, but i pass the Ivana site each day, and it says on the sign that it was APPROVED with the FAA for 923 ft (or something around that height)

that true? or did someone say that hight was a problem with that project and the surrounding views etc?

Yes, it was approved to that height. The project didn't fail because the developer couldn't get the height, the financing just wasn't there. But, as is obvious, there is a big difference between 923 and 1,888 feet, in fact twice the difference.

[Fido]

Originally Posted by Don Pacho

Eagle Point & Skywalk
Grand Canyon West, Arizona
As of Nov 24, 2006

That small concrete or metal object at the left side on the top is the only visible thing to the public.
This will be the view that people will be able to see from skywalk:

This pic is amazing!!!
Grand Canyon is trully beautiful I wish I could be here someday.

[mdiederi]

Just a couple weeks ago the owner of the Ivana/Summit site was given a two year extension by the city to start developing the site with the original plans. In the application they said that all the issues that stopped the earlier development have been resolved. The Kisache Group from Atlanta recently said that they had purchased the plans as they were originally submitted, except that they will add a casino. Kisache has zero track record, as far as I can tell, and their website is vague and misleading, using photos of property they have nothing to do with. But, who knows?

[mdiederi]

Here's some more on that Summit project extension. It was submitted September 19, 2006 and approved on December 6, 2006.

Scroll down to item 77 in this link.
http://www5.lasvegasnevada.gov/sirep...doctype=Agenda





They submitted the same JMA design as before, but further in the filing it said something about a redesign and Kirsache mentioned a casino, which I don't see in the ground level plan.

[Don Pacho]

CityCenter models














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[sky-of-webs]

Nice find on the Summit diagrams and massing renderings.

[Daquan13]

Originally Posted by sky-of-webs

Nice find on the Summit diagrams and massing renderings.

Does this mean that the Ivana project still has a chance to be built? Would be good if it does!!

[ScottG]

i doubt this devolepment team is anything to write home about...http://www.thekisachegroup.com/ExecutiveBoard.html look at the "CEOs" they are real young...with an 'associates' but is 'determined and passionate' no success history, nothing to prove themselves, no credibility...

[mdiederi]

Yeah, that's the impression I get too, but if they can come up with the money, that's all it takes. They aren't even mentioned in the application, it was the current property owner who submitted it. Hope they're not taking him and other investors for a ride?

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Good close-ups of the PCC model Don Pacho. I can see some monorail tracks running through there.

Speaking of models, I just got back from the preview for the Frank Gahry show at the museum. It opens to the public on Wednesday. There are over 100 models for the Brain Institute building. Mostly small preliminary ideas and some larger final versions. There were also some preliminary doodle drawings on display. The melted part of the building is the back and faces the street corner and contains the cafe, an assembly area and a brain museum. Then there is an open air area under the part of the melted lattice leading to the main building. The spiral staircase is in the middle of the main building. The front, facing the parking lot, is the blocky part and half of the blocks are glass and it's pretty straight forward looking from the parking lot. There were also floor plans and all of the floors in the main building are offices with desks, not a single hospital bed in the entire building, so patients will not be staying there. It's not a hospice.

Still no announcement for groundbreaking, except that it will be after the new year. I remember them saying it would be last August.

There was also a large model of the Guggenheim in Bilbao and a tiny model of the Disney building and a large model of a museum in Jerusalem.

There was also a model for the vision of that whole Union Park area downtown.

All of the models were handmade mostly from wood, foamcore, cardboard and plastic. None are as polished as the CityCenter model in Don Pacho's pictures.

[AhChu]

Not to sound so negative, but does the content of that site give you the feel of a poorly done college business project. It is filled with "we believe" or "we are different" etc.