Metro Vancouver Road Infrastructure Discussion

[libtard]

Pre cast barriers strung together lining the side of a cliff instead of cast-in-place cement retaining wall. How very BC

[Klazu]

I hope nobody goes proposing that this accidents calls for reduction on speed limits on SFPR. I am 100% sure this truck have been going way beyond the current speed limits, which is laughably low to begin with.

[Metro-One]

Jesus Christ! How do you pull off that party trick?

Many highways in the world only have those flimsy metal braces along such drops.

Good thing heavy concrete barriers were there, or he would have completely flown off, isn't that right libtard?

Come here, give me a hug!

[libtard]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Jesus Christ! How do you pull off that party trick?

Many highways in the world only have those flimsy metal braces along such drops.

Good thing heavy concrete barriers were there, or he would have completely flown off, isn't that right libtard?

Come here, give me a hug!

On an urban road like this steel guard rails would not be the ideal application although they still would have done a better job of keeping this truck from sliding off the edge. A cast in place cement retaining wall would be the best. Either way BC chooses the worst form of protection with pre cast jersey barriers strong together instead of a barrier with continuity from one end to the other

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by libtard

On an urban road like this steel guard rails would not be the ideal application although they still would have done a better job of keeping this truck from sliding off the edge. A cast in place cement retaining wall would be the best. Either way BC chooses the worst form of protection with pre cast jersey barriers strong together instead of a barrier with continuity from one end to the other

Then it is obvious that your destiny in life is to become a civic engineer and become MoT's barrier specialist.

Then you can dictate what barriers they install.

And no, I highly doubt a steel guard would have done much better. I have seen images of many vehicles in the exact same position as this truck after hitting a steel barricade.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by libtard

On an urban road like this steel guard rails would not be the ideal application although they still would have done a better job of keeping this truck from sliding off the edge. A cast in place cement retaining wall would be the best.

The truck ended up on top of the barrier - it's hard to see how a cast in place barricade would have helped. It's sometimes hard to figure out how vehicles end up where they do, but after watching several videos it's easy to see how a crash can very easily turn that momentum into rolling or even flipping, and after that almost anything can happen. It doesn't even take a crash per se, it can happen even if someone just tries to swerve to avoid something (an animal, for example) and looses control as a result.

[officedweller]

New parking facility, streamlined processes to support trucking industry
The Government of B.C. is supporting the province’s commercial trucking industry by constructing a new parking facility on Highway 17 under the Port Mann Bridge.

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2017TRAN0112-000849

[Metro-One]

I see a protected T.... ugh.

Should be an interchange.

[moosejaw]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I see a protected T.... ugh.

Should be an interchange.

Another step backwards

[makr3trkr]

Originally Posted by moosejaw

Another step backwards

it's honestly flabbergasting...

this should be RI/RO, or an underpass for any other movements...

just build another facility on the other side of the highway!

[flipper316]

How in the hell do they expect a fully loaded big rig make that left safely and quickly onto 17 east without getting smoked. People drive freeway speeds you know it'll happen eventually. Oh, whatever they'll probably stick a set of lights there. At this point, it's not even worth to drive the perimeter road through the Surrey section. Way too many lights. Thank you, BC government.

[Metro-One]

So odd to do this move just after announcing the major replacement of the Sunburry intersection with an interchange.

Looks like the western half of the SFPR will be more of a freeway while east of the Pattullo Bridge will be more akin to the Mary Hill.

The variety in design quality is strange in BC. Some projects are bang on, and then there is this.

[urbancanadian]

Looking on Google Maps, it almost looks like the site has already been preloaded for some time. Has this been planned for a long time now?

Originally Posted by makr3trkr

just build another facility on the other side of the highway!

On a map it looks simple, but isn't the land to the south a steep hill? Agree though that simple interchange would have been much smarter.

Originally Posted by Metro-One

So odd to do this move just after announcing the major replacement of the Sunburry intersection with an interchange.

Looks like the western half of the SFPR will be more of a freeway while east of the Pattullo Bridge will be more akin to the Mary Hill.

The variety in design quality is strange in BC. Some projects are bang on, and then there is this.

I've said before that the BC government seems to have different "stages" for its highways. Highway 1, 91 (mostly), and soon Highway 99 are in their "final" stage and are built to the highest standard. Highways are almost never built properly from day 1 and are upgraded piecemeal until things are so bad that they need a massive makeover ala Hwy 1/99.

I almost wonder if this is a form of corruption where the construction companies are making tons of money by constantly getting to "re-do" everything instead of doing it right the first time.

Seems like the 80s was a golden era for the province though. Highway 91 and the Coquihalla are still well-designed to this day.

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Then it is obvious that your destiny in life is to become a civic engineer and become MoT's barrier specialist.

Then you can dictate what barriers they install.

And no, I highly doubt a steel guard would have done much better. I have seen images of many vehicles in the exact same position as this truck after hitting a steel barricade.

Even if it was built with the specs he wants, he would have found another reason why BC is bad and never does anything right. He'd probably claim the road should have been built at-grade. And even if it were he'd claim the curve is too sharp. And even if it weren't he'd claim they aren't using the proper pavment. And so on...

[moosejaw]

It would make more sense to build it one way accessible going west bound. I would doubt there would be enough demand from east bound trucks that would use this.

This has to be the most ass backward thing?

[Metro-One]

Going to write to the MoT on this one.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

The truck ended up on top of the barrier - it's hard to see how a cast in place barricade would have helped. It's sometimes hard to figure out how vehicles end up where they do, but after watching several videos it's easy to see how a crash can very easily turn that momentum into rolling or even flipping, and after that almost anything can happen. It doesn't even take a crash per se, it can happen even if someone just tries to swerve to avoid something (an animal, for example) and looses control as a result.

The truck ended up on top of the barrier because the barriers not cast in place, there for they tip forward and act like a ramp for the truck to drive up. This would not happen with a cast in place barrier or steel guard rail

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by libtard

The truck ended up on top of the barrier because the barriers not cast in place, there for they tip forward and act like a ramp for the truck to drive up. This would not happen with a cast in place barrier or steel guard rail

What part of "rolling" and "flipping" did you not read?

[libtard]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

What part of "rolling" and "flipping" did you not read?

That part was purely anecdotal and had nothing to do with the accident that we were discussing

[flipper316]

Getting back to the Perimeter Road with the Sunbury intersection and the 91 Connector road "improvements" for a second. I hope the government isn't thinking that they're taking credit or boasting about some new road infrastructure or new road improvement road project when they damn well know this easily could've been avoided if they just did this right in the first place.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by flipper316

I hope the government isn't thinking that they're taking credit or boasting about some new road infrastructure or new road improvement road project when they damn well know this easily could've been avoided if they just did this right in the first place.

Hey, if you don't get at least a dozen announcements and photo opportunities out of the same project then you're a real political rookie.