Métro City Condos | ?m | 3 x 20 fl | Proposed

[Innsertnamehere]

https://pub-hamilton.escribemeetings...umentId=313024

In front of Planning Committee.

This has been appealed to the OLT, thus the extended timeframes on it.

[ScreamingViking]

From pages 4-5. Most critique is textbook, and I'm not sure why the need for commercial/retail services is a concern... seems like it's needed regardless.

Which one of us submitted in support?

A total of 21 submissions were received from members of the public. One submission was in support of the increased height and density.

Twenty submissions received expressed concerns related to the proposed development. The concerns from the public included:
- Height, massing and shadow impacts;
- Visual impact on the Niagara Escarpment;
- Increased vehicle traffic;
- Loss of green space;
- Garbage collection;
- Noise;
- Wind impacts;
- Loss of on street parking;
- Loss of affordable housing;
- Need for commercial/retail services for the neighbourhood;
- Sustainable development practices;
- Loss of greenspace being proposed combined with the loss of mature trees and the impact this development may have on the environment; and,
- Impact on the existing infrastructure.

[TheHonestMaple]

My biggest fear for Hamilton is that all of these projects that are stalled out at planning or the OLT, they become economically unviable with rising interest rates.

This city's skyline would be dramatically different if it didn't have an incompetent City Hall and residents that didn't oppose every single new build. It's exhausting sometimes just thinking about the wasted potential of the downtown core because of stuff like this.

City Hall and the city in general should be kissing the ground these developers walk on if i'm going to be totally blunt. This city (complaining neighbourhood associations or the City Hall itself) has turned down so much potential tax revenue by stalling out projects like this one.

Just let them build! We need the tax revenue to fix up our failing infrastructure and we desperately need new residents that can support the local businesses. Look at how Toronto transformed since 2007. Why Hamilton doesn't make it happen I have no idea.

[Innsertnamehere]

https://www.thepublicrecord.ca/2022/...towers-appeal/

OLT Sets April 23, 2023 Hearing Start for Spallacci John/Charlton Towers Appeal

The Ontario Land Tribunal will conduct a two week hearing in late April 2023 to decide upon a Spallacci development proposal for three tall buildings at 299-307 John Street South & 97 St. Joseph Drive.

Spallacci wishes to build the towers to be taller than the escarpment at 22, 24 and 25 storeys.

These will be the first tall buildings built near the escarpment since the creation of the Niagara Escarpment Plan’s (NEP) creation in 1985. The surrounding tall buildings were built before the implementation of the NEP. The NEP was created to protect the environment of the escarpment, including ensuring views of the escarpment.

Officially, the developer is appealing for “non-decision” by the City of Hamilton. The primary issues are with the Niagara Escarpment Commission (NEC).

The NEC says the proposal does not comply with the NEP.

“As proposed, the overall height of the three towers represents a significant increase over the maximum allowable building heights for the subject property and exceed the relative height of the Escarpment brow,” reads an NEC report.

“The proposal presents serious concerns associated with compatibility of the development and impact on the existing visual access for the public to the scenery of the Escarpment’s wooded slopes and brow.”

The NEC says the developer needs to lower the heights of the building, and suggests the buildings should only be allowed to the height of the present zoning on the property which varies between 12 to 18 storeys.

The NEC is concerned the approval of this proposal will undermine the Niagara Escarpment Plan and lead to similar tall buildings all the escarpment throughout Ontario.

Hamilton’s Design Review Panel recommended the developer only build two towers on the site. With the developer appealing for non-decision to the OLT, there was no final DPR review.

St. Joseph’s Hospital is an added party to the appeal, the hospital submitted that its interests are impacted by the proposal. The hospital states the proximity of a large number of residential units could cause neighbour complaints regarding noise from the hospital’s mechanical systems, that changes to wind conditions could impact the hospital’s air intakes and exhaust vents, and that the hospital has future expansion plans to increase its density along John Street.

All four parties, the developer, City, NEC, and hospital are to exchange issues lists during the summer.

The OLT will conduct a Case Management Conference on September 19 to consider the procedural order and issues list for the expected ten day hearing scheduled to begin on April 24, 2023.

[bigguy1231]

Just saw this on Joey Coleman's site. Looks like they have come to an agreement.

https://www.thepublicrecord.ca/2023/...s-development/

[TheRitsman]

Spallacci can't even build their already approved Royal Connaught. I give this a 5% of ever happening unless they sell to someone else.

[TheHonestMaple]

Well if the bureaucrat asshats at City Hall didn't hold this one up for literally years, then maybe he would have built it by now. This city is its own worst enemy.

[Corktowner]

In this case I actually have a lot of sympathy for the planning staff that had to review this application. The original proposal was godawful, and from what I’ve seen the latest version doesn’t seem a whole lot better. As someone who lives nearby, I hope Spallacci sells to someone who knows what they’re doing and gives a shit about urban design. Maybe Slate could buy it and consolidate a cluster of properties like they’ve done at Yonge and St Clair…

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by TheHonestMaple

Well if the bureaucrat asshats at City Hall didn't hold this one up for literally years, then maybe he would have built it by now. This city is its own worst enemy.

Yea this one really ain’t the cities fault here. It’s the Niagara Escarpment Commission and the developer itself for moving at a snails pace on everything.

[johnnyhamont]

Originally Posted by TheHonestMaple

Well if the bureaucrat asshats at City Hall didn't hold this one up for literally years, then maybe he would have built it by now. This city is its own worst enemy.

Echoing ritsman, there's zero degree to which bureaucrats have presented any barrier to the Connaught project for many, many years, yet nothing. This developer has proven its ineptitude for building condos exists quite independent of external barriers. Unlike the sentiment of others though, my hope is not they they sell to a proven developer but that they somehow internally figure their own stuff out and get on a roll with Connaught, Metro and more in the future. Heaven knows we desperately need some of Hamilton's legacy suburb builders to full-on pivot into urban high-rise building, Spallacci included!

[SteelTown]

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