NEW YORK | 3 Hudson Blvd (The Girasole) | 987 FT | 56 FLOORS | ON HOLD

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

^ no it remains to be seen if its high quality or not.

I seriously doubt a SOM design in Midtown Manhattan of all places, with Boston Properties as developer, will be low quality.

SOM is the gold standard in corporate architecture and Boston Properties is the fanciest office REIT in existence. You could hardly have more assurance that it will be a blueblood design for higher end tenancy.

[patriotizzy]

Originally Posted by Zapatan

Not really super exciting but pretty massive, and looks fine

Don't really get all the hate though?

Calling a spade a spade does not equate to hate. It is very mundane as previously mentioned. Nothing more than filler at this point. The verticals metal fins are overdone (globally by the low-reaching "architects") and they do nothing to bring vibrancy. All design features are so vague and shallow, they are nearly invisible. Shame of a design for a fancy new neighborhood.

I hope to God phase two has natural warm facades like brick or stone. All these glass buildings do nothing to bring warmth to a cold-looking neighborhood.

[Prezrezc]

The penultimate design was trying too hard to work with a multiplicity of design elements.

Less is more here, especially if it looks like what they're after and if to their collective tastes it reflects their corporate image.

Build it.

[NYguy]

Counter clockwise, 50 Hudson, the Spiral, and 3 Hudson Boulevard...the "4 corners" towers (55 Hudson makes the 4th).


https://www.instagram.com/p/BwGbzj9htnE/





Opposite angle...


https://www.instagram.com/p/BwGQSJuHoyL/

[NYguy]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvSMTTaHBG8/

Hudson Yards from Weehawken with 3 Hudson Yards rendered : The first steel columns are in place for the Moinian Group/Boston Properties' new Manhattan office tower 3 Hudson Yards. The 1.9-MSF development will rise across from the Javits Convention Center and Related-Oxford's HudsonYards.

It will stand 53 floors, approximately 940 feet tall and open in 2021. FXCollaborative are the architects and new renderings on-site show an uneventful, pared-down design of glass and steel. The project will have retail, a possible duplex rooftop entertainment space/terrace, and will seek LEED Gold. Perhaps the signing of an anchor tenant will spice things up a bit...

[chris08876]

High res / crisper renderings




Credit for both: notrianglestudio

[Prezrezc]

Post 845 nos. 1 & 2 and post 846 #2 are all different now.

Moinian needs to shit or get off this pot now.

[DeSelby]

Truly Pritzker Prize-worthy architecture. We’re looking at NYC’s next icon, up there with ESB and Chrysler.

But in all seriousness, this site is a bitter disappointment that showcases all of the very worst traits of NYC developers. There’s going to be a very sad contrast between 50 HY with its expensive glass and classy white stone cladding and 3 HB across the street, a cheap glass box.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by DeSelby

There’s going to be a very sad contrast between 50 HY with its expensive glass and classy white stone cladding and 3 HB across the street, a cheap glass box.

There's probably no difference in the relative expensive. You might night like the design, but has nothing to do with "cheapness".

For some reason, people on SSP believe that if a tower is glass and a box, it's somehow cheaper than other building forms. Bizarre. Glass isn't cheaper than other materials, and boxes aren't cheaper to build than spired or slanted buildings. And developers build according to zoning and perceived tenant floorplate needs. That's what guides building design.

I think the new design fits in with HY quite well. Of course the building itself has no particular distinction, and I would prefer the earlier taller, slimmer version. But it fits perfectly with Related's existing towers.

[matt19215]

New renders and height increase!

https://www.newyorkyimby.com/2019/05...son-yards.html

[jsbrook]

Originally Posted by Crawford

There's probably no difference in the relative expensive. You might night like the design, but has nothing to do with "cheapness".

For some reason, people on SSP believe that if a tower is glass and a box, it's somehow cheaper than other building forms. Bizarre. Glass isn't cheaper than other materials, and boxes aren't cheaper to build than spired or slanted buildings. And developers build according to zoning and perceived tenant floorplate needs. That's what guides building design.

I think the new design fits in with HY quite well. Of course the building itself has no particular distinction, and I would prefer the earlier taller, slimmer version. But it fits perfectly with Related's existing towers.

This is not true. Certainly not every glass tower is cheap. But: 1. there is a range in the price and quality of glass facades; 2. most glass IS cheaper than terracotta, bronze, limestone, copper and other similar materials that have been used in some of the masterpieces going up. I think this building is looking fine. Not great architectural shakes. But fine.

[chris08876]

This is back to super tall status.

[NYguy]

Filings are FINALLY beginning to show that this is more than just a 15-story building. They must have begun transferring the development rights over from the railyards. Final height not given yet, no zoning diagrams.


http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=08

05/24/2019

AMENDMENT BEING FILED TO REVISE FLOOR DESIGNATION,SECTION 8F,11,12,PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHT,BUILDING STORIES AND DWELLING UNITS IN SECTION 13 AND TO SUBMIT REVISED SCHEDULE A AND PLANS TO SHOW RESDESIGN OF PROPOSED OFFICE BUILDING TO 55 STORY.WVA#28044/14

OLD DESCRIPTION:APPLICATION FILED TO CONSTRUCT 14 STORY NB
NEW DESCRIPTION:APPLICATION FILED TO CONSTRUCT 55 STORY NB

Building Height (ft.): 874
Building Stories: 55

According to the Schedule A, terraces on these floors:

6-7
9
29
45
54

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/BS...de=ES722550994

[JMKeynes]

If it’s one of the mundane designs we’ve already seen, this will be a missed opportunity.

[patriotizzy]

I remember the initial proposal being that thumbnail we currently see (why is the thumbnail so terribly outdated anyway???). I enjoyed the twist in the building.

Now we have a tall... glass box.

*shrugs, moves on*

[Zapatan]

I guess 874 feet is sans crown? I don't care about a minor height cut as long as it looks more interesting, the new renderings make it seem like it is.

[chris08876]

Credit: JC_Heights

[chris08876]

Credit: JC_Heights

[chris08876]

Boston Properties’ 888-Foot Tall 3 Hudson Boulevard Gets Height Cut In New Filings, In Hudson Yards

This week Boston Properties filed permits for a 56-story commercial building at 3 Hudson Boulevard, also known as 400 Eleventh Avenue in Hudson Yards, Manhattan. Located between 34th and 35th Streets, the empty lot is one block from the 34th Street-Hudson Yards subway station, serviced by the 7 train. The proposed 888-foot-tall tower will yield 1,538,210 square feet of commercial space.

In May Boston Properties finalized a $500 million equity investment deal for 3 Hudson Boulevard with the Moinian Group, acting as both the lender and co-developer with the Moinian Group in the joint venture. There has been many changes to the development since the Moinian Group broke ground on the property in 2017 when specs called for a 940-foot-tall, 53-story skyscraper.

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[Zapatan]

Didn't we already know this? I remember reading something like that aways back.

Not a huge deal honestly, it may actually balance out the area better in contrast with the 1000+ towers.