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Cirrus · #**281** Posted **Nov 5, 2010, 3:22 AM**

It's still under construction. There's a fence around it, the sidewalk is closed, and there are new glass stickers on all the windows.

Nowhereman1280 · #**282** Posted **Nov 5, 2010, 3:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cirrus

The mansion is excellent.

That mansion is a monstrosity when it comes to Urban Planning. They tore down three or four wonderful 3 flats to build it AND owned the lots across the alley from it and used that to eliminate the alley mid-block and essentially mess up the alley for the entire block. The owners of this property should be arrested for crimes against the built environment...

Sorry but quad-lot mansions don't belong in Lincoln Park. I'd love to arson that place and watch it burn. Unfortunately I'm sure they have insurance and it would be rebuilt within a year. These people are morons and terrible anti-urban fools...

Cirrus · #**283** Posted **Nov 5, 2010, 4:05 AM**

The city let them take out the alley?

Anyway, that's a shame.

Baronvonellis · #**284** Posted **Nov 5, 2010, 4:52 AM**

Hey dude, relax. The alley doesn't extend past their property anyway. They didn't remove the alley for the rest of the block. They don't own the other side of the block. On the other side of the block a developer is building a row of shops. This house is way better architecture than a couple old 3 flats. I'm glad that they decided to live in the city and not the suburbs.

I do think it's funny that there is a hot dog stand and a check cashing place at the end of their block though.

Cirrus · #**285** Posted **Nov 6, 2010, 2:24 AM**

It's clear that the building is bad urbanism whether they took the alley out or not. Good urban buildings do not have privately fenced yards.
I just assumed it was in the suburbs, but if it's on an otherwise urban street then yes, it is bad urbanism - made somewhat better by its good architecture, which is adequately detailed to be interesting for pedestrians.

Architecture and urbanism aren't the same thing. A building can be good one and bad the other.

Of course, to qualify as a good building all the way around, it has to be both.

photoLith · #**286** Posted **Nov 6, 2010, 2:34 AM**

I agree with Cirrus for sure on this one, its a beautiful building but totally doesnt meld with its surroundings at all. It needs to butt up right to the sidewalk and not be fenced in. I hope that doesnt become common place in River North.

spyguy · #**287** Posted **Nov 6, 2010, 3:24 AM**

^This is not River North. Trust me, if you know this area then you know that this building fits in, as awful as that sounds. This is Chicago's billionaires row where excess is the norm. There's really nothing left to salvage on this block anyway, so look at the positive - the extremely wealthy are choosing to stay in the city rather than buy some lakefront estate on the North Shore.

BTW Nowhereman1280, Parrillo made his fortune in insurance.

photoLith · #**288** Posted **Nov 6, 2010, 3:26 AM**

Oh, where is that than in Chicago? I just guessed river north, since that areas is very expensive.

spyguy · #**289** Posted **Nov 6, 2010, 4:04 AM**

Burling Street in Lincoln Park. I'm sure what happened there annoys many people on this board, but at this point I don't really care. It's not an important street to me and at least the average person can walk or drive it, unlike Kinzie Park on the river. And I have some sympathy regarding the fenced yard; there was going to be a large commercial/retail project directly across the alley on Halsted. I believe that has since stalled but I'm sure it will be revived at some point.

RCDC · #**290** Posted **Nov 15, 2010, 11:46 PM**

Here's a real beauty. Not sure if it qualifies as traditional, but anyway:

photoLith · #**291** Posted **Nov 16, 2010, 12:19 AM**

If it didnt have the balconies, it would be really good. I dont understand why its so hard for modern architects to just get it right. Where is that?

Busy Bee · #**292** Posted **Nov 16, 2010, 1:26 AM**

Looks like DC to me. Adams Morgan maybe?

RCDC · #**293** Posted **Nov 16, 2010, 1:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by photolitherland

If it didnt have the balconies, it would be really good. I dont understand why its so hard for modern architects to just get it right. Where is that?

I don't know, while the balconies are atrocious, the rest isn't great either. The arched transoms and the little windows next to the balcony doors cheapen the look, and overall the proportions are just off imo. It's just completely at odds with the surroundings.

This was put up just before the historical overlay for this area was established, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Looks like DC to me. Adams Morgan maybe?

Yes on both!

photoLith · #**294** Posted **Nov 16, 2010, 6:32 PM**

Well, the bottom two floors at least are good. What is this historical overlay? Is it a regulation saying that all buildings have to fit in with their historic surroundings?

Cirrus · #**295** Posted **Nov 16, 2010, 8:24 PM**

Yeah, I'm not much of a fan of that one. Too much mixing of unrelated styles. They got a lot wrong.

But one thing they did pretty well is the ground floor. The bright color and detailed cornice is something a lot of otherwise better buildings leave out. A little bit of a stoop would have helped, though.

RCDC · #**296** Posted **Nov 18, 2010, 2:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by photolitherland

Well, the bottom two floors at least are good. What is this historical overlay? Is it a regulation saying that all buildings have to fit in with their historic surroundings?

Overlay is zoning jargon, meaning it's designated a historic district while overlay means the underlying zoning still applies.

Being in a historic district means new construction would be subject to OP/HPO (office of planning / historic preservation office) and HPRB (historic preservation review board) critique.* But I think the most significant factor would be that the original townhouses on the site wouldn't have been razed.

*this is nothing...Dupont Circle would additionally involve the Dupont Conservancy, while Georgetown would fall under the auspices of the CFA (commission of fine arts) and the OGB (old georgetown board). DC is a blast to work in.

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Originally Posted by Cirrus

Yeah, I'm not much of a fan of that one. Too much mixing of unrelated styles. They got a lot wrong.

But one thing they did pretty well is the ground floor. The bright color and detailed cornice is something a lot of otherwise better buildings leave out. A little bit of a stoop would have helped, though.

Yeah, in terms of sidewalk frontage it's quite nice, but above is still inside a pedestrians' peripheral vision, so it just jumps out even if you're not deliberately looking up at it.

jetsetter · #**297** Posted **Jan 20, 2011, 9:32 PM**

Meier Hall at Elmira College is finally finished.

Elmira College @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/elmiracollege/4662958677/

Elmira College @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/elmiracollege/4705753203/

Elmira College @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/elmiracollege/4706396550/

Elmira College @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/elmiracollege/4663581208/

Elmira College @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/elmiracollege/4616290991/

Simon Hall at Indiana University Bloomington

Brent A. Jones @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/brentajones/4875885748/

Brent A. Jones @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/brentajones/4875261135/

StevenW @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/helloev...23/3938150612/

Brent A. Jones @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/brentajones/4875888288/

RLS_rls · #**298** Posted **Jan 20, 2011, 10:48 PM**

^That one definitely has a Futurism feel to it.

Cirrus · #**299** Posted **Jan 20, 2011, 11:31 PM**

That first one is awesome. Really nice work.

The second one... I like it, but it's weird. RLS's comment is about right I think. It looks a building from the 1930s that was meant to be futuristic.

jetsetter · #**300** Posted **Jan 21, 2011, 5:05 AM**

Putin's alleged new dacha on the Black Sea.

(The guy below will soon be kidnapped by the FSB and transported up to Siberia.

)

More photos: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...lack-Sea-shore.