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Old Posted Apr 13, 2017, 3:07 AM
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^That is post tensioned cabling. After the concrete is poured, they will put the cables in tension to strengthen the deck. This allows for much less traditional rebar in the deck.
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I was wondering the same thing. It looks like rebar, but I dont understand what its structural purpose would be.
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Concrete is stronger in compression. Cracks need to widen, and can't if the slab is fully compressed.

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Bvic, that last picture is great. Thats going to be be one long slab when it levels out after garage level. I'd say 90% of Chicago doesn't know or realize how huge this project is or what the visual impact it's going to make.
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Wow this thing is moving right along!
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Is this photo showing the end where the tightening will be done after the slab is set, post tensioning?
Was this done on the first parking level?
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I was wondering the same thing. It looks like rebar, but I dont understand what its structural purpose would be.
Concrete works great in compression, but is pretty bad in tension. Basically you can place a lot of weight on a concrete column, but if you were to hang a concrete column from the ceiling you wouldn't be able to hang nearly as much weight from it.

The steel rebar both holds the concrete slab in compression and adds tensile strength to the slab.
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Concrete works great in compression, but is pretty bad in tension. Basically you can place a lot of weight on a concrete column, but if you were to hang a concrete column from the ceiling you wouldn't be able to hang nearly as much weight from it.

The steel rebar both holds the concrete slab in compression and adds tensile strength to the slab.
Rebar takes the tension - concrete takes the compression.
Post tension puts the concrete under compression making it stronger.



in this photo you can see both the rebar (vertical, and horizontal at right angles) and the post tension cables (running diagonally).


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I think we said the same thing. Nice pics!
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Thanks for all the great photo updates everybody. The documentation of this project is every bit as impressive as the construction progress so far. I'll be in town next weekend and I'll be sure to snap a few to add to the pool.
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The cables take quite a circuitous route, no? The curves don't 'feel' right to me, but they definitely look deliberate and in their final resting place. Interested to see if anyone has more insight.

[QUOTE=harryc;7772128]Rebar takes the tension - concrete takes the compression.
Post tension puts the concrete under compression making it stronger.

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[QUOTE=vexxed82;7772269]The cables take quite a circuitous route, no? The curves don't 'feel' right to me, but they definitely look deliberate and in their final resting place. Interested to see if anyone has more insight.

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Rebar takes the tension - concrete takes the compression.
Post tension puts the concrete under compression making it stronger.

The tendons run over the tops of columns. They're sit high in the slab through the column, and low in the slab toward the center of the span between columns. This way, when the cable is pulled, the slab between columns is almost "pulled up".
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The cables take quite a circuitous route, no? The curves don't 'feel' right to me, but they definitely look deliberate and in their final resting place. Interested to see if anyone has more insight.



The tendons run over the tops of columns. They're sit high in the slab through the column, and low in the slab toward the center of the span between columns. This way, when the cable is pulled, the slab between columns is almost "pulled up".
the amount of UP is very small for a HUGE amount of tension, conversely the amount of down will impose lateral tension - so the harder you push down, the stronger you make the slab.

(and yes the curved post tension cables just seems wrong).
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Thanks for all the explanations. I have never heard of tension cables before. You learn something new everyday
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