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Originally Posted by deasine
i just had a thought:
We all know that the Canada Line will exceed its capacity soon after its completion because of the lack of planning given. From what I see today on the 98 B-Line, I'm guessing the busiest sections of the Canada Line will be from Waterfront Station to Bridgeport Station. That is because Vancouver-Suburbs commuters and Vancouver-Vancouver commuters travel in. Well how about removing some of the Vancouver-Vancouver commuters by implementing the Arbutus StreetCar? If it travels from Waterfront Station down Granville St. to W 5th Avenue then existing tracks down Arbutus and wind its way downt to Marine Drive station, I'm sure that some commuters wouldn't mind a slower trip if there was less people but was equally as reliable.
We can't undo what we did to the Canada Line, so might as well introduce new infrastructure to serve with the Canada Line.
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That has been thought of before, that the Arbutus streetcar could be a full running LRT line instead.
But the question is, how much would it actually relieve Canada Line congestion?
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Mr.X, are you saying that adding more and longer trains will cause congestion, implying that is something we don't want?
I thought the goal here was to get more people using mass transportation, so in my opinion the more people crammed into the system, the better. This is why it is called "mass" transportation.
Using your logic, bigger platforms would also only provide a short term solution, as soon people will fill into that space aswell.
Besides, crowded stations will lead the government to feel that the system needs expansion and improvement, therefore bigger platforms and more lines.
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That is something we want....the Broadway M-Line will be dumping tons of people onto the Canada Line. But the question is can the Canada Line handle that? Imagine a Broadway Station scenario, with people waiting for 3 or 4 trains just to get on. Nevertheless, any ridership growth is good.
What I said was a 40/50-metre platform is far from sufficient. Most metro systems around the world build longer platforms so that they can add more cars to the trains for additional future capacity. The Canada Line train is 41-metres long, most of the platforms will be 40-metres long, and all are expandable to 50-metres. What are you going to do with that 9-metres? That's smaller than a bus.
Ideally, the Canada Line should have been built with 80-metre platforms or at the very least 50-metre platforms but extendable in the future to 80-metres.
But it all comes down to poor planning...or rather, poorly flawed principles on how to build a rapid transit rail line on the part of the provincial government...counting nickels and pennies rather than just building it. The P3 system is flawed.
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Besides, crowded stations will lead the government to feel that the system needs expansion and improvement, therefore bigger platforms and more lines.
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They will definitely see it that way...but if we had built it right, all we would've needed to do was buy more cars instead of ripping up the system and roads apart again to extend the platforms or building another LRT line.
You're going to have people walk into a station in 2009. They will look left. They see a wall nearby. They will look right. They will see another wall nearby. And then they will think, "wtf?"
It can be best put that the Canada Line will be a victim of its own success.
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when the trains increase form either millennium or expo lines, the stations wont be as crowded as they are now while people wait for trains to arrive.
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