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Old Posted Dec 2, 2007, 10:02 PM
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I agree. I was just thinking Dam, this has been on the books for 20 years? Seems to me demand for more office would have taken place over that long of time. It should have evolved into a 20 story project by now.

Oh now come on - you know better than that. Things seem to work backwards in Buffalo for some reason. This project probably STARTED as a 30 story tower and has been scaled back to 11 over the years.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2007, 10:00 AM
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Oh now come on - you know better than that. Things seem to work backwards in Buffalo for some reason. This project probably STARTED as a 30 story tower and has been scaled back to 11 over the years.
How true. Remember the Adelphia feasco? 40stories, 33, 28, 25, 20 18, 15, see ya later. What a crock, and dont even get me started on The Rigas's. God, I miss FAN TV!
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2007, 2:44 PM
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If downtown can get more anchor tennants in new buildings without moving from other downtown location I don't care how big the building is. When we start to see this happen then we'll know that things are really changing. By the way all the whining on BRO about who will stay in all the new potential hotels obviously don't know anything about the market or have never been in a downtown hotel or had a convention downtown. Pretty sorry. Maybe in 3 years when Spitz needs to get re-elected he will come to Buffalo with cash in hand for a glitzy new convention center.
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50 Court St. made a nice first impression, though maybe thats because its carrying a 20 year history. Now that it is old enough to vote, i say its time for change and a lot deserves to be done with this space.
The height of this building is a sneaky version of the blue cross blue shield. It could have the aesthetic zeal of the new m&t, yet i feel like its short contrapposto is reckless to the sizable grid and stature of the liberty building.

Paladino should consider his lawsuit as a proposal, smell the partnership and raise the bar. Of course I'm sure he wants nothing to do with deceasing the integration of his complex and is satisfied with everything being nonchalant and puffy Duffy.

These design elements represent a stay away quality where the building is thickly cut on top and on bottom, Its a magic lantern toward stateliness. It says we pay attention to the public sector, just stay out of our parking garage. Desirable qualities like these, need to remain focused on the city and contribute towards higher levels of transcendence. Keep the network of investment tight and do not let up on its effect towards our commercial sector.



consider extra floors of class A parking and raise the roof! ok enough im tardy.

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50 Court St. made a nice first impression, though maybe thats because its carrying a 20 year history. Now that it is old enough to vote, i say its time for change and a lot deserves to be done with this space.
The height of this building is a sneaky version of the blue cross blue shield. It could have the aesthetic zeal of the new m&t, yet i feel like its short contrapposto is reckless to the sizable grid and stature of the liberty building.

Paladino should consider his lawsuit as a proposal, smell the partnership and raise the bar. Of course I'm sure he wants nothing to do with deceasing the integration of his complex and is satisfied with everything being nonchalant and puffy Duffy.

These design elements represent a stay away quality where the building is thickly cut on top and on bottom, Its a magic lantern toward stateliness. It says we pay attention to the public sector, just stay out of our parking garage. Desirable qualities like these, need to remain focused on the city and contribute towards higher levels of transcendence. Keep the network of investment tight and do not let up on its effect towards our commercial sector.



consider extra floors of class A parking and raise the roof! ok enough im tardy.
So I'm gathering through the above confusing miasma of wordage that you want 50 Court's height increased?

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hahahaha yeah i was running over due with time and bunched a few things that i shouldn't have. just nice to hear something about court st.
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hahahaha yeah i was running over due with time and bunched a few things that i shouldn't have. just nice to hear something about court st.
right on!

I wish it was taller or at least in the construction phase now!
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Plans unveiled for Freezer Queen site
Hotel, townhouses and condominiums included in preliminary multiphase plan

By Sharon Linstedt



Preliminary plans for the Freezer Queen site includes a 250- to 400- room, five-star hotel tower. More Photos

When Orchard Park businessman Gerald Buchheit heard the idle Freezer Queen plant on Buffalo’s outer harbor was going on the auction block, he drove to the Fuhrmann Boulevard site last summer out of curiousity.

After a brief walking tour of the long-time industrial property, Buchheit made up his mind to buy it.

“It’s an absolutely spectacular site. I was blown away by the views out over the lake and the Boston Hills to the south. Then you turn around and there’s the Buffalo skyline,” he said. “I just kept thinking ‘people should be living out here and enjoying this.’ ”

Jon Williams, owner of Buffalo’s Ontario Specialty Contracting and a friend of Buchheit, made an independent field trip to the property and drew the same conclusion.

“When you’re out on that peninsula, you get the feeling you’re in world of your own. You have all the charm of the waterfront, but downtown Buffalo is five minutes away,” Williams said.

After comparing notes, Buchheit and Williams teamed up to submit the winning $3 million bid at the Nov. 1 auction. They’ve spent the past month fleshing out concepts for Queen City Landing, a project that will bring a mix of residential and hotel uses to the 20- acre site.

The new owners declined to put a price tag on their dreams for the site, but said preliminary plans for the multiphase project include:

• Conversion of the existing six-story, 272,000-square-foot food production and storage plant to condominiums, possibly adding two more floors to create luxury penthouse suites;

• A 250- to 400-room, fivestar hotel tower, to be built on the tip of the mini-peninsula;

• A residential tower and townhouses on undeveloped areas of the property.

The Queen City team plans to move as “expeditiously” as possible with the hope of beginning the food plant-to-condo conversion by late spring. They are currently interviewing local and national architects for the project.

“Our objective is to move as fast as the process allows. We’d love to have a model condo ready by next summer,” Buchheit said.

Mayor Byron W. Brown called the ambitious makeover proposal “intriguing,” and a “sign of the times,” for the city’s long-under-utilized waterfront.

“It opens the door to what we expect to happen out there,” Brown said. “Other investors and developers are looking at the outer harbor, and they will be watching this closely.”

The Queen City Landing team said its plans are not contingent on other projects, or creation of critical mass.

“We want to be the first kid on the block. This project stands on its own,” Williams said.

The site, which is a finger of land extending out from 975 Fuhrmann Boulevard into the city’s outer harbor, is flanked by the Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority Boat Harbor to the south, and 120-acres of nearly undeveloped NFTA property on its north side.

Access to the site will get a boost via the state Department of Transportation upcoming upgrade of Fuhrmann Boulevard, a nearly $50 million effort that will create a four-lane parkway with two-way traffic.

The property’s main structure was built in 1927 as a refrigerated warehouse complex. It became Freezer Queen’s frozen food plant in 1955, and was operated as food production and warehousing complex until June 2006, when owner Home Market Foods shut it down.

Buchheit and Williams concede the property’s industrial past, which included extensive use of ammonia to aid refrigeration processes, has likely left the property in need of some environmental clean-up.

“We’ve made initial contact with the [New York State] Department of Environmental Conservation, and we’ll talk with Erie County and the city about brownfields programs, if that becomes necessary,” Buchheit said. “But our initial investigations haven’t found major problems.”

In addition to any remediation, the project will require rezoning from industrial to residential status, and will need city planning board approvals before the overhaul of the food plant can begin.

The housing/hospitality project will be the first of that nature for both Buchheit and Williams. Buchheit, who is the former owner of the Statler Towers in downtown Buffalo, is probably best known for developing the Quaker Crossing retail complex in Orchard Park.

His core business is Accent Stripe, a national highway marking and specialty paving company.

Williams’ contracting firm has a track record in an assortment of private and government projects.
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2007, 5:08 PM
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Buchheit, who is the former owner of the Statler Towers in downtown Buffalo,

nough said.
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2007, 6:41 PM
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nough said.
I was excited until I saw that. Who knows, it may work out well. I just can't believe all the hotel proposals.
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Old Posted Dec 7, 2007, 2:22 PM
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Can anyone tell me if the new Buffalo Creek Casino and Hotel tower construction has been started yet?

Thanks!
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Can anyone tell me if the new Buffalo Creek Casino and Hotel tower construction has been started yet?

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just saw a report saying they'll break ground late december possibly.
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Old Posted Dec 7, 2007, 10:35 PM
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waterfront place construction pics from today...

http://allthingsbuffalo.wnymedia.net...-place-120707/
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Did the price of glass go up? The windows are half as big as they should be on the TH's.
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Its a wonder they bothered putting them in at all.
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Its a wonder they bothered putting them in at all.
yeah, exactly.
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then again, I'm not the one paying 300k-1mil for a condo on the waterfront.
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I saw Burj Dubai on the news the other day and was bored today so I had a little fun with sketchup and threw it into the buffalo skyline if it were built on the parking lot behind city hall

Looking west


Looking north


looking northeast, check out the shadow, this is what it would look like at 5 pm in the summer


this is what it would roughly look like looking from the I-190

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Damn....that's amazing.
Anything above 50 stories would look out of place in the Bflo. skyline.
All the preservationists would have a stroke if something one-quarter that size was proposed.
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I saw Burj Dubai on the news the other day and was bored today so I had a little fun with sketchup and threw it into the buffalo skyline if it were built on the parking lot behind city hall

Looking west


Looking north


looking northeast, check out the shadow, this is what it would look like at 5 pm in the summer


this is what it would roughly look like looking from the I-190
repost they'er gone!
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