Is Doug Ford ''too Hoserish'' to run diverse Ontario?

[Loco101]

Not a very large crowd considering how many Ontarians there are.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Sarah89

Ontario is rapidly changing in its demographics and a Premier should reflect this. Why do we have a fat, white guy with a Hoser accent in charge? he's a thing of the past. We should have a person of colour in charge. This province is soon to be immigrant majority anyway. Send this Hoser packing back to the 1980's.

Like him or not, your discriminatory intolerant and racist remarks aren't helping your cause..Moderators, can you please close this thread? If these kind of comments were made towards a minority group it would be shut down in 3 seconds, and I'm not even a Doug Ford fan.

[Sarah89]

Originally Posted by Razor

Like him or not, your discriminatory intolerant and racist remarks aren't helping your cause..Moderators, can you please close this thread? If these kind of comments were made towards a minority group it would be shut down in 3 seconds, and I'm not even a Doug Ford fan.

I mentioned the word ''White'' once. Since when is calling someone a hoser and overweight racist or intolerant?

[vid]

Some people like to draw an equivalency between "hoser" and racial slurs because it blurs the line between racism and non-racism and that makes them more comfortable.

It's either that or he's got some contorted reason for why suggesting more minorities should be in positions of power is racist against minorities.

[Sarah89]

Originally Posted by vid

Some people like to draw an equivalency between "hoser" and racial slurs because it blurs the line between racism and non-racism and that makes them more comfortable.

It's either that or he's got some contorted reason for why suggesting more minorities should be in positions of power is racist against minorities.

The fact is is that racialized people are not in positions of power at all even in city councils in cities that they are the majority in.

[Dengler Avenue]

There was a Chinese on the Toronto City Council and another one on the Richmond Hill one, AFAIK. I don’t know if they’re in the position of power as you intended, though.

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Anyway, how are your loved ones (referring to your other thread) doing?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Sarah89

The fact is is that racialized people are not in positions of power at all even in city councils in cities that they are the majority in.

This is actually quite true, though the reasons for it may be more complex that the usual simplistic blame game (it's the fault of evil white people).

It's worth noting that OTOH GTA minorities tend to be quite well represented in provincial and federal-level politics.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Sarah89

I mentioned the word ''White'' once. Since when is calling someone a hoser and overweight racist or intolerant?

Calling someone out as a hoser and overweight is certainly intolerant when you're factoring that into his ability to do a job (Premier of Ontario) that has nothing to do with these traits.

If we were talking about a firefighter's job, then perhaps "overweight" would be relevant.

And as for "white", well you opened the thread with it, and that clearly seemed to be in opposition to the "diverse" Ontario you say isn't represented by Doug Ford.

[wave46]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Calling someone out as a hoser and overweight is certainly intolerant when you're factoring that into his ability to do a job (Premier of Ontario) that has nothing to do with these traits.

If we were talking about a firefighter's job, then perhaps "overweight" would be relevant.

And as for "white", well you opened the thread with it, and that clearly seemed to be in opposition to the "diverse" Ontario you say isn't represented by Doug Ford.

If the Premier was Dalton McGuinty (another white male, albeit not overweight, with different political leanings and less 'hoserish') would this be a topic?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by wave46

If the Premier was Dalton McGuinty (another white male, albeit not overweight, with different political leanings and less 'hoserish') would this be a topic?

Likely not, and I alluded to this earlier in the thread when I brought up Justin Trudeau.

[wave46]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Likely not, and I alluded to this earlier in the thread when I brought up Justin Trudeau.

Yeah, I don't get the whole angle the original poster was going for.

It's kind of a underhanded way of criticizing a politician of any stripe.

If one wanted to criticize Doug Ford, he's given them enough material to do so without having to go the the race/gender/etc/etc angle.

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by Sarah89

The fact is is that racialized people are not in positions of power at all even in city councils in cities that they are the majority in.

There's no equality or fairness in a democracy.
But other systems of government I've seen tend to be much worse. I agree that racial minorities are not well represented on many municipal councils in Ontario.



Here is one of my city councillors for my ward here in Timmins. She is half Indigenous (originally from one of the First Nations next to the Town of Chapleau) and half black (Jamaican heritage I think). I believe she is the first non-Caucasian person elected to council here. Of the many candidates for Ward 5, she received the most votes and was one of four candidates elected for our ward.



Kristin Murray


Contact

You may contact Councillor Murray at:
Email Address: kristin.murray@timmins.ca
The Corporation of the City of Timmins
220 Algonquin Blvd. East
Timmins, ON P4N 1B3
(705) 360-2611
Councillor Murray sits on the following boards:

Audit Committee
Cochrane District Social Services Administration Board
Indigenous Advisory Committee
Porcupine Health Unit
Timmins Economic Development Corporation
Violence Against Women

Bio

I currently live in Ward 5 with my two daughters, Keenyah and Nylah.

In 2001, I moved to Timmins from Chapleau to attend post-secondary studies at Northern College, obtaining a dual diploma in Social Service Work and Drug and Alcohol Counselling. I later attended St. Francis Xavier University where I studied Leadership.

I have a deep understanding of community and have an extensive career investing in the City of Timmins’ Not-For-Profit sector. My contributions have led to the development and support of numerous social planning programs, art endeavours and successful community initiatives.

I pride myself on being a results-oriented person with ability to grasp and act on the issues that are of concern.

Over the years I have lent my skills to many organizations and community groups, most recently as the Health Promoter with Misiway Milopematesewin Community Health Centre. One of my priorities is to maintain the existing city services provided to local residents while providing effective growth opportunities that yield tangible benefits to the community.

An avid nature lover and promoter of all things northern, my favourite thing about Timmins is spending time in our community’s outdoor spaces. My hobbies include running, coaching Ringette and crafting.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Calling someone out as a hoser and overweight is certainly intolerant when you're factoring that into his ability to do a job (Premier of Ontario) that has nothing to do with these traits.

If we were talking about a firefighter's job, then perhaps "overweight" would be relevant.

And as for "white", well you opened the thread with it, and that clearly seemed to be in opposition to the "diverse" Ontario you say isn't represented by Doug Ford.

That's exactly what I'm talking about!..It's so obvious, yet some posters skirted around it.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Loco101

There's no equality or fairness in a democracy.
But other systems of government I've seen tend to be much worse. I agree that racial minorities are not well represented on many municipal councils in Ontario.



Here is one of my city councillors for my ward here in Timmins. She is half Indigenous (originally from one of the First Nations next to the Town of Chapleau) and half black (Jamaican heritage I think). I believe she is the first non-Caucasian person elected to council here. Of the many candidates for Ward 5, she received the most votes and was one of four candidates elected for our ward.



Kristin Murray


Contact

You may contact Councillor Murray at:
Email Address: kristin.murray@timmins.ca
The Corporation of the City of Timmins
220 Algonquin Blvd. East
Timmins, ON P4N 1B3
(705) 360-2611
Councillor Murray sits on the following boards:

Audit Committee
Cochrane District Social Services Administration Board
Indigenous Advisory Committee
Porcupine Health Unit
Timmins Economic Development Corporation
Violence Against Women

Bio

I currently live in Ward 5 with my two daughters, Keenyah and Nylah.

In 2001, I moved to Timmins from Chapleau to attend post-secondary studies at Northern College, obtaining a dual diploma in Social Service Work and Drug and Alcohol Counselling. I later attended St. Francis Xavier University where I studied Leadership.

I have a deep understanding of community and have an extensive career investing in the City of Timmins’ Not-For-Profit sector. My contributions have led to the development and support of numerous social planning programs, art endeavours and successful community initiatives.

I pride myself on being a results-oriented person with ability to grasp and act on the issues that are of concern.

Over the years I have lent my skills to many organizations and community groups, most recently as the Health Promoter with Misiway Milopematesewin Community Health Centre. One of my priorities is to maintain the existing city services provided to local residents while providing effective growth opportunities that yield tangible benefits to the community.

An avid nature lover and promoter of all things northern, my favourite thing about Timmins is spending time in our community’s outdoor spaces. My hobbies include running, coaching Ringette and crafting.

Not that it has anything to do with her ability to do her job, but if the photo is any indication of what she looks like in person... she is very beautiful!

[Loco101]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Not that it has anything to do with her ability to do her job, but if the photo is any indication of what she looks like in person... she is very beautiful!

I've seen her in person and she is indeed beautiful. Her smile and personality really catch the attention of many people.

There are stereotypes out there that Indigenous people and black people don't smile very much but she certain proves them wrong.

[Phil McAvity]

Originally Posted by Razor

Like him or not, your discriminatory intolerant and racist remarks aren't helping your cause..Moderators, can you please close this thread? If these kind of comments were made towards a minority group it would be shut down in 3 seconds, and I'm not even a Doug Ford fan.

Exactly, and I AM a Doug Ford fan

When insults and racist comments come from the left, few say anything but if they come from the right, all hell breaks loose. What further proof do we need that the media are run by lefties? This forum is no different

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

Exactly, and I AM a Doug Ford fan

When insults and racist comments come from the left, few say anything but if they come from the right, all hell breaks loose. What further proof do we need that the media are run by lefties? This forum is no different

[vid]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

Exactly, and I AM a Doug Ford fan

When insults and racist comments come from the left, few say anything but if they come from the right, all hell breaks loose. What further proof do we need that the media are run by lefties? This forum is no different

Dude, you run this website. You could close this thread!

[Sarah89]

Originally Posted by Phil McAvity

Exactly, and I AM a Doug Ford fan

When insults and racist comments come from the left, few say anything but if they come from the right, all hell breaks loose. What further proof do we need that the media are run by lefties? This forum is no different

Doug Ford is nothing new... just following the policies and legacy of the infamous Maggie. The media is far from leftist owned. Canada and our news media has probably been in Conservative control since Mulroney. Serve the rich, hoard the money. Destroy social mobility and create an oligarchy. The rich eat the butter from the trough as evidenced with the heft corporate welfare payments given to them while no poor person gets a chance.

[vid]

The PCs promised to "reduce spending to eliminate the deficit", but they want to do it without raising taxes or firing anyone. So how do you do that?

Well, you shift the spending onto city budgets to shrink the provincial budget, forcing health care and daycare to be covered by property taxes, and city councils take the blame for tax increases! It's actually quite brilliant.

Puts the cities in a really shitty situation, but who cares? They don't vote PC!