[Halifax] The Cunard (1475 Lower Water) | 57 m | 19 fl | U/C

[someone123]

This thread is for the Cunard Block development being planned by the WDCL. Rendering will be added soon.

[Jstaleness]

The website says construction to start in Spring of 2013. Would that be the building itself? Could site prep start any earlier?

[halifaxboyns]

Now that we have an official thread, I will just post the link to the CH story on the Cunard Block again, just in case.

[Jonovision]

It's interesting to note that Michael Napier Architects and Ekistics have taken over design of this.

[sdm]

So is Waterfront Development Corp goign to design the building then sell the development package? Not sure why they would take such an approach.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by sdm

So is Waterfront Development Corp goign to design the building then sell the development package? Not sure why they would take such an approach.

I wonder if this was done in response to the Salter situation.

[Jonovision]

Originally Posted by sdm

So is Waterfront Development Corp goign to design the building then sell the development package? Not sure why they would take such an approach.

That is my understanding of the situation. And from what I have heard there has been some good interest from developers.

[sdm]

Originally Posted by Jonovision

That is my understanding of the situation. And from what I have heard there has been some good interest from developers.

Oh i sure there has been, but was that interest in building something already designed or with them designing to a certain level or generality.

[someone123]

Interestingly enough, the Sentinel project they mention in the PDF was never built. It was for the King and Alderney drive site next to the King's Wharf site. I used to have renderings somewhere...

[someone123]

The WDC will soon be looking for a developer for this project, and it sounds like there will be some HbD-related meeting on Thursday (not clear if this is some kind of open house or something else). Maybe we'll get some more detailed project information soon. A developer could by chosen in the fall and construction could start shortly thereafter.

In ANS there was a good quote from the president of the condo board for the building across the street. He pointed out how this is already planned for and how it will probably have a positive effect on the value of condo units in his building.

[beyeas]

Originally Posted by someone123

In ANS there was a good quote from the president of the condo board for the building across the street. He pointed out how this is already planned for and how it will probably have a positive effect on the value of condo units in his building.

Definitely positive to see reasoned responses like that, rather than the expected "They are blocking my view" response (ala The Martello). Congrats to the president of that board for taking a logic based view of the development situation in that area.

[Waye Mason]

Originally Posted by beyeas

Definitely positive to see reasoned responses like that, rather than the expected "They are blocking my view" response (ala The Martello). Congrats to the president of that board for taking a logic based view of the development situation in that area.

39 meters as of right pre bonus, 49 post, for the land, 19 max for the water lot. So 18 stories seems a little unlikely but close to it, what would that be, 15? 16? 160 feet at 10 feet per story, assuming they can get away with ground floor at less than 15 feet.

I have every confidence in Colin MacLean at WDC, he is doing great work turning that ship around.

[eastcoastal]

Originally Posted by Waye Mason

39 meters as of right pre bonus, 49 post, for the land, 19 max for the water lot. So 18 stories seems a little unlikely but close to it, what would that be, 15? 16? 160 feet at 10 feet per story, assuming they can get away with ground floor at less than 15 feet.

That site is fairly sloped - I'd imagine even a difference of 1-storey - with the high point being the corner of Lower Water and Morris. If this is adhering to HRMbyDesign, I think it needs a tall first storey - not sure if it works out to +/- 15 feet.

[worldlyhaligonian]

So how long until the anti-height crew comes out of the woodwork?

[Waye Mason]

Originally Posted by worldlyhaligonian

So how long until the anti-height crew comes out of the woodwork?

Like Sisters, there is no basis for complaint. The community consultation on height ended 5 years ago with HRMbD. Staff won't even ask the neighbours, because they already did that. 49 metres with bonusing is already approved.

[worldlyhaligonian]

Originally Posted by Waye Mason

Like Sisters, there is no basis for complaint. The community consultation on height ended 5 years ago with HRMbD. Staff won't even ask the neighbours, because they already did that. 49 metres with bonusing is already approved.

I truly hope so, these folks can use anything as a "basis for complaint". The list of dead projects that were supposedly okay to proceed is longer than the phonebook.

[worldlyhaligonian]

Doesn't there have to be some sort of public input still though? This is where things usually go poorly as the room gets stacked with anti-height folks.

[Jonovision]

With HRMByDesign the only public input required is an open house event put on by the developer.

[worldlyhaligonian]

Originally Posted by Jonovision

With HRMByDesign the only public input required is an open house event put on by the developer.

Right, okay I remember now. The appeal process is similar as before though? e.g. groups such as HT can seek an appeal of an approval?

[halifaxboyns]

Originally Posted by worldlyhaligonian

Right, okay I remember now. The appeal process is similar as before though? e.g. groups such as HT can seek an appeal of an approval?

Appeal would be to council - then I believe to the UARB? Or did the UARB get taken out?