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View Poll Results: Which of the designs would you like to see become the new Lansdowne 'Front Lawn'?
Option A: "One Park, Four Landscapes" 12 11.88%
Option B: "Win Place Show" 23 22.77%
Option C: "A Force of Nature" 14 13.86%
Option D: "All Roads Lead to Aberdeen" 16 15.84%
Option E: "The Canal Park in Ottawa" 18 17.82%
None of the above. Please keep my ashphalt. 18 17.82%
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2012, 3:44 AM
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Stats, please??
Their buildings are more stumpier than ours
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2012, 6:16 AM
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In terms of population, projects approved/cancelled, the time delays in the approvals process, and council makeup,Halifax might have Ottawa beat.

I lurk on the Halifax page, and some of the shit that goes on in that city is nuts. I think a single councillor can veto a project proposed for their ward.

Their downtown might have actually shed people during the census, and the grand plan to bring people downtown (to the tune of 50% of population growth) calls for more zoning restrictions and lower building heights. Their city council can't get out of its own way.

Strange for a city known for boozing and good times.
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Halifax has twice the amount of NIMBYs than Ottawa does
Proportional or by numbers?
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2012, 2:52 PM
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But how do they have an underground city? Is it somewhat similar to TO (PATH) and Montreal (RESO)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Halifax_Link
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2012, 10:53 PM
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For the NIMBYs, I would say proportional.

I know if Ottawa had a 'links' pedestrian plan proposed, many people would claim that's where the druggies will go. Any indoor public space shouldn't be built, because that's where the druggies will go.

Enclosed pedestrian bridge? Druggies.
LRT station underground? Druggies.

I assume by walking on the surface of the earth, one can avoid ever encountering a 'druggie' in the open air.
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Wow, a city that rivals Ottawa for its lack of action. Remember when they droped out of the 2014 Commonwealth games after winning the bid in 2008?
Wow, really? That's sad and a wasted opportunity.
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Wow, a city that rivals Ottawa for its lack of action. Remember when they droped out of the 2014 Commonwealth games after winning the bid in 2008?

Wow, really? That's sad and a wasted opportunity
Yeah really----the worst part was that there were other Canadian Cities that put in a bid to be the Canadian entrant in the competiton for the games.

Ottawa was one of them--and it could of meant a fix to the stadium issue in Ottawa if we won as you had to have or build a decent stadium for soccer etc for the games. Probably would have got some fed and/or prov money to help out as it is an international event.

Well Halifax won the right to be the Cdn. entrant and a few months later got cold feet, saying they would have to spend more than originally thought for facilities, including a stadium, and did not want to risk it. They withdrew and it was to late to put together a new Canadian bid for the games. We all lost out.
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Vanity gigaproject.

Heard that one in response to LRT (the usual "We're not Toronto" refrian).

I'm sure it was used to protest the Halifax bid, too. Apparently, the 'We're not Toronto" comment counts as leitimate argument in Halifax, too (scroll down):

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=194226&page=4
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CFRA.

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Friends Accuse City of Skipping Rules for Lansdowne Art
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Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Opponents of the Lansdowne Park redevelopment say the arts community is "shocked" it won't have an opportunity to bid on public art at the project.

The Friends of Lansdowne says the one per cent earmarked for public art will not be awarded through the normal call for proposals from artists.

It has been folded into the contract for the urban park consultants, with Jill Anholt Studio awarded the contract for two pieces: a screen and a beacon.

The Friends of Lansdowne says it's another example of the City of Ottawa not following normal, competitive processes for the Lansdowne redevelopment.

In a statement, the Friends add "many from the arts community are shocked that they did not have an opportunity to compete for this important $4 million commission.
It must not be easy to constantly live in shock, as these folks seem to.
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Perhaps if the shocks increase in intensity to a sufficient degree, the appeal issue will become moot. Who wants to start a rumour that the Aberdeen Pavilion is being turned into a Wal-Mart?
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Perhaps if the shocks increase in intensity to a sufficient degree, the appeal issue will become moot. Who wants to start a rumour that the Aberdeen Pavilion is being turned into a Wal-Mart?
I believe you just did.
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CFRA.

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It must not be easy to constantly live in shock, as these folks seem to.
Wasn't this art announced when the final plans were presented in February? SHOCK can be slow-coming I guess. A SLOW shock?
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City should go ahead with Lansdowne work, report says

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By David Reevely, The Ottawa Citizen April 25, 2012 12:19 PM

OTTAWA — The city should move on with more work at Lansdowne Park while it waits impatiently for a court ruling on whether its larger redevelopment plan can proceed, city staff say in a report to be presented next week.

The recommendation includes starting to remediate contaminated soil, renovate the Horticulture Building, and prepare underground pipes and other services to be shut down and moved.

The recommendation comes even though the Ontario Court of Appeal hasn’t yet ruled on a significant court case aimed at blocking the city’s partnership with the Ontario Sports and Entertainment Group, the partnership of developers and sports businessmen. The case, brought by the Friends of Lansdowne community group, says the partnership is illegal.

“On 30 March 2012, legal counsel for the City wrote to the Senior Legal Officer of the Court asking when a decision might be expected. No answer has been provided,” the report says.

The city and OSEG would together renovate Frank Clair Stadium for football and soccer, build a new park at the southeast corner of the Glebe site, and build stores, restaurants, and condominiums on its northern and western edges.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2012, 4:53 PM
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Darn tootin'.

Pardon my language.
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So they aren't happy with what the urban park consultants are doing? The same ones that were chosen through a design competition?

But I thought design competitions guaranteed bliss and happiness from all parties?
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So they aren't happy with what the urban park consultants are doing? The same ones that were chosen through a design competition?

But I thought design competitions guaranteed bliss and happiness from all parties?
Bingo. And with construction starting, they get what they didn't want anyway: to be inconvenienced. Every statement shows the public more and more what a sham their opposition is.
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FOL judgment to be released on Monday.
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FOL judgment to be released on Monday.
Already? ;-)

If the city wins, it's hard to get too excited because you just know that the FoL will try some other means of obstructing the whole thing. They don't seem to lack for imagination along those lines.
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Already? ;-)

If the city wins, it's hard to get too excited because you just know that the FoL will try some other means of obstructing the whole thing. They don't seem to lack for imagination along those lines.
No doubt. What I'm most afraid of is an "appeal allowed in part" that sends some part of the issue back to the trial judge and starts the whole process over. The timing for the FIFA event is already razor thin.
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Joanne Chianello is reporting on Twitter that the "Friends of Lansdowne" have lost their appeal.

https://twitter.com/#!/jchianello/st...87298326380544

Decision: http://www.ontariocourts.ca/decision...12ONCA0273.htm

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