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Old Posted Mar 18, 2016, 10:16 PM
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And since TO has no historic fishing villages, there's no comparable there to my neighbourhood.
Bronte, now part of Oakville, began life as a small fishing village. There's a memorial to fishermen lost at, well, lake down by the harbour. The area has essentially become a retirement community for upper middle class WASPs.
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LOL, Richmond was never "poor and white", as was pointed out to you. Sure it may not have been filled with little label queens tottering around on their stilettos out to their 3 series, but it was never poor.
You still called it an ethnic "ghetto" despite its now-vastly-wealthier and more-diverse demographic, so...

Anyway, it's gotten to the point where these monster houses below from the 90's, (that replaced the original bungalows), are now being demolished for a third wave of redevelopment


http://www.richmond-news.com/news/we...isis-1.2217152
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2016, 10:21 PM
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Ghetto = high concentration of minority group, not necessarily equivalent to "da ghetto".
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Is Hamilton Victoria?
I don't think so.
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2016, 1:07 AM
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Richmond was never particularly poor (nor particularly rich). It's always been more middle class than anything else. The east side of Vancouver was always more poor than Richmond.

That being said, I think ethnic ghetto is a bit harsh. A more accurate term would be ethnic enclave.
Yes, Richmond has its Asia culture. However it is also the warehouse and distribution centre. When you include the Airport and all the industrial lands I think it has to in common with Misgauge than any other part of the GTA.
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Fun thread. I'll go with:

West End - Church and Wellesley

Yaletown - King-Spadina

Gastown - St. Lawrence

Downtown Eastside - I guess Dundas/Sherbourne

Mount Pleasant - no idea

Commercial Drive - Kensington Market, Little Italy and Trinity Bellwoods

Kitsilano - the Beaches with maybe a bit of the Annex and north Riverdale thrown in

Point Grey - Rosedale/Moore Park

Shaughnessy - Forest Hill

Richmond - Markham and Agincourt

North Burnaby - East Danforth/Old East York

Metrotown - Scarborough City Centre area?

Surrey - Brampton

North Vancouver - southern Mississauga?

West Vancouver - Oakville/York Mills hybrid

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Downtown Eastside - Nothing really
Downtown East - Dundas and Sherbourne to Queen and Sherbourne
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Old Posted May 14, 2016, 3:53 AM
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Bronte, now part of Oakville, began life as a small fishing village. There's a memorial to fishermen lost at, well, lake down by the harbour. The area has essentially become a retirement community for upper middle class WASPs.
Bronte = Horseshoe Bay?
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Shaughnessy reminds me of Forest Hill more than Rosedale. Point Grey is harder since it has the university influence but in a more upscale semi-suburban setting. Almost as if Glendon College was the site of U of T.
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Yorkville = Yaletown
Is Yaletown really that upscale feeling? Yaletown strikes me more as your standard affluent young professional area (that's why I said King-Spadina or the Entertainment District). Yorkville I associate more with wealthy empty nesters from Forest Hill etc. and multimillion dollar condos, though there are more "ordinary" condos in the area too.
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Is Yaletown really that upscale feeling? Yaletown strikes me more as your standard affluent young professional area (that's why I said King-Spadina or the Entertainment District). Yorkville I associate more with wealthy empty nesters from Forest Hill etc. and multimillion dollar condos, though there are more "ordinary" condos in the area too.
I guess I don't know much about Yaletown - I would have thought of Yonge and Eglinton as equivalent.
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Yaletown is downtown though.
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Yaletown is downtown though.
Yeah, I thought of that after I posted. Liberty Village, perhaps?
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Is Yaletown really that upscale feeling? Yaletown strikes me more as your standard affluent young professional area (that's why I said King-Spadina or the Entertainment District). Yorkville I associate more with wealthy empty nesters from Forest Hill etc. and multimillion dollar condos, though there are more "ordinary" condos in the area too.
Seems like when ya describe Yorkville... sounds a bit more akin to the Bayshore condo district in downtown Van City's Coal Harbour area.
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Old Posted May 15, 2016, 3:42 AM
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Fun thread. Obviously, there are big differences between the two cities - the built form is totally different, and demographics-wise, Toronto has a huge southern European, African and West Indian presence that Vancouver almost totally lacks - but some of the suburban areas are more easily comparable due to the fact that both cities were on the receiving end of much of Canada's immigration since 1970.
Yeah, Van has no equivalent to say, Woodbridge or Mount Dennis/Weston.
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Seems like when ya describe Yorkville... sounds a bit more akin to the Bayshore condo district in downtown Van City's Coal Harbour area.
I suppose Coal Harbour comes closest to the Yorkville demographic but I'm not sure if has the other aspects (is Bayshore a cluster of buildings or a neighborhood?)

Basically Yorkville is the closest Canada gets to Fifth Avenue or the Magnificent Mile and Gold Coast in Chicago IMO.
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I suppose Coal Harbour comes closest to the Yorkville demographic but I'm not sure if has the other aspects (is Bayshore a cluster of buildings or a neighborhood?)

Basically Yorkville is the closest Canada gets to Fifth Avenue or the Magnificent Mile and Gold Coast in Chicago IMO.
Firstly, agree with your assessment of Yaletown. Neighbouring "North False Creek" condoville is even higher end... for obvious reasons (as it overlooks False Creek).

As for the Bayshore district, etc., the Westin Bayshore Inn (adjacent to Stanley Park) originally had a vast parking lot, which was developed into condo towers - as well as adjacent areas in Coal Harbour. I refer to that area as the Bayshore district. Considerable higher-end stuff in that 'hood and, IMHO, more higher-end than even North False Creek.

Furthermore, condo towers along West Georgia St. (west of Burrard St./north of West Georgia St. toward the Bayshore district) could be categorized as downtown Van City's "Fifth Ave.", etc. IMHO (including the upper-scale Shangri-La/Trump Tower as minor players therein).

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You still called it an ethnic "ghetto" despite its now-vastly-wealthier and more-diverse demographic, so...

Anyway, it's gotten to the point where these monster houses below from the 90's, (that replaced the original bungalows), are now being demolished for a third wave of redevelopment


http://www.richmond-news.com/news/we...isis-1.2217152
Forgot to reply to this. The irony is that many of the kids of the Hong Kong wave of immigration are finding out they're now priced out of Vancouver's housing market.
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Old Posted May 15, 2016, 5:43 PM
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Well to answer the question literally:

5th Avenue, Vancouver:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.26817...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Park Avenue, Toronto:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.67088...7i13312!8i6656
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Old Posted May 15, 2016, 10:22 PM
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Municipality of Point Grey = North Toronto/Forest Hill/Leaside

Municipality of South Vancouver = York/East York (though North Burnaby arguably has that "feel" too?)

What's also tricky is that the Lower Mainland's social geography is relatively simple compared to the GTA.

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