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View Poll Results: What do you think about shadows?
I don't care about shadows. 26 42.62%
It depends on the situation. 35 57.38%
Shadows from tall buildings are awful. 0 0%
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2017, 2:16 AM
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How many people care about the shadows tall buildings cause?
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2017, 2:23 AM
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Without a shadow of a doubt, I do not care about shadows.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2017, 2:34 AM
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When someone shadows me in Hockey I find it annoying.
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They do not bother me at all. I think it is pretty sad a buildings height can be restricted because of the shadow it will cast at a certain point on a certain day.
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I don't like anything over three stories.
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Using the term shadow has negative connotations. One could use an equally biased word: 'shade'. What do you think about shade?

To answer the question, I prefer shade but 95% of metro Toronto doesn't have buildings tall enough to provide shade. In a few areas I'd support completely no protection from the sun: the waterfront, Riverdale Park, Cherry Beach, etc. On most streets in the core I don't want that. I want shade.
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They do not bother me at all. I think it is pretty sad a buildings height can be restricted because of the shadow it will cast at a certain point on a certain day.
Calgary has shadow rules that restricts buildings from casting a shadow over the Bow River and the city hall, winter months are excluded from this rule.

As a result, the pathways along the Bow River are always in the sun when the sun is out - the city hall thing I did not know and it's kind of odd IMHO..
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Shadow puppets are way cool!
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I'm not obsessed with height so, yeah, shadowing should be accountable in planning decisions.
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For all those that voted "It depends on the situation" what are the situations?
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I do think that shadowing of certain areas such as (some) parks and squares should be taken into consideration in new construction. The same goes for towers adjacent to lowrise areas. This doesn't mean no shadows at any time whatsoever, but buildings can be overbearing in context. It could simply be rearranging floorplates locating building mass to one corner of the site. I can see how many Calgary forumers in particular are annoyed at shadowing bylaws because of how strict the one for the riverfront is. And I agree that a 20ft wide shadow at noon on December 21 shouldn't make or break a design.

I work in an area that can be in pretty much constant shade during the winter and while it doesn't bother me that much as it's downtown, it's certainly not great. It's much more pleasant walking on the sunny side of the street in my neighbourhood when it's -10. Some people go on about how they prefer shady streets or whatever, but that's really only at the height of summer I'd think. Shade can also be accomplished at that time through other means, like, you know - trees. Ideally a park would be treed in summer to provide shade and open in winter to allow sunlight.
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Shadows count for something. I find that I naturally walk on the sunny (northern) side of most east-west streets. This might be anecdotal, but I find that the stores on the north side of Queen St. West in Toronto, for example, to be a bit more high end and the retail spaces a bit more coveted than the ones on the south.
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Calgary has shadow rules that restricts buildings from casting a shadow over the Bow River and the city hall, winter months are excluded from this rule.

As a result, the pathways along the Bow River are always in the sun when the sun is out - the city hall thing I did not know and it's kind of odd IMHO..
THere are also parks, and Stephen Ave that cannot be shadowed at certain times of year (spring and fall equinox). I agree with it, in our climate the sun can be the difference between being comfortable or not.
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In many nimby ruled places, it seems that shadow studies are mandatory, even for very height-challenged low rise buildings. It's the most common go-to nimby complaint after views. Shadow intrusion can threaten a four story building proposal because it blocks sunlight in a playground a block away on the shortest day of the year.
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As a general rule, not really. That said I do care if they create large shadows over public schools and public places like parks, civic plazas etc. You should be able to enjoy such places in the sunshine for most of the day.
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^ "For most of the day" is the important part, not all of the day.
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Speaking of shadows.


Best movie I have seen in a long time involving shadows!

https://youtu.be/Cv568AzZ-i8
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Looks pretty funny!

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Made me laugh pretty good.
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It's a restriction which should be a cause for better or more thoughtful design. As long as it protects important public spaces and helps make the city more livable, I'm all for it.
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For all those that voted "It depends on the situation" what are the situations?
What isaidso said basically, in my opinion, anyways. I want parks and waterfront areas that have sunlight, but get some localised shade from trees. But in the downtown core, I don't care if I'm walking in shade or not.
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