900 Albert St | 234/203/105m | 65/56/23fl | Approved

c_speed3108 · #1 Posted **Feb 11, 2009, 8:39 PM**

EDIT: 2018 updated renders

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Latest renders and height increase for Trinity Centre at Bayview Station (900 Albert) in Ottawa. Preliminary sewer relocation underway and zoning going to Council next month.

232.5m / 65 fl (was 230.9m/65fl)
204.4m / 56 fl (was 192.7m/52fl)
130.7m / 27 fl (was 130.1m/32 fl)

Architect is GGLO from Seattle
http://www.gglo.com/

Thread
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...164924&page=23

Latest drawings June 2018
http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Im...une%202018.PDF

Formerly known as 801 Albert | 140.4m & 130.9m | 33 fl & 30 fl | Approved
and 900 Albert

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Phoenix proposes two 31-storey residential towers
By Peter Kovessy, Ottawa Business Journal Staff
Tue, Feb 10, 2009 4:00 PM EST

An Ottawa developer has reactivated its plans for a residential development just east of the Bayview Transitway station, but has returned with a significantly taller proposal.

DCR Phoenix has submitted a site plan application to build a pair of 31-storey, 338-feet high-rise apartment buildings and a four-storey office building on a 5.35-acre site at 801 Albert St. (map), formerly known as 801 Wellington St., according to city documents.

The proposed development would create 466 dwelling units and 478 surface and underground parking spaces. The property would have to be rezoned to accommodate the increased density.

A rezoning application was initially submitted in 2003 to allow for a residential development consisting of townhouses, stacked townhouses and an apartment.

The development was to be incorporated into a light rail station as part of Ottawa's since-cancelled north-south rapid transit line, an individual familiar with the file said on background.

"It all came to a halt with the death of the north-south light rail and then it got put on hold for two or three years as water mains were being built through the site," he said.

In September 2007, the developer requested its application be reactivated and proposed two 19-storey towers.

The developer's most recent application has not yet been deemed complete by city planners, but is being circulated for early public review.

DCR Phoenix's manager of planning could not be immediately reached for comment.

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Mille Sabords · #2 Posted **Feb 11, 2009, 9:05 PM**

"Surface and underground parking" already reeks of a tower-in-the-park type of garbage. I'll wait to see renderings, but it would make me smile more if I had also seen the words "retail podium" and "Integrated with a transfer station".

waterloowarrior · #3 Posted **Feb 11, 2009, 10:00 PM**

here's their old proposal('05)

http://www.phoenixhomes.ca/phoenixNe...ber28-2005.pdf

Davis137 · #4 Posted **Feb 12, 2009, 12:44 AM**

It'd be awesome to ANYTHING built west of Lebreton near Bayview/Scott Streets...would add some much needed rejuvination to the northern section of the city...

Jamaican-Phoenix · #5 Posted **Feb 12, 2009, 2:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

here's their old proposal('05)

http://www.phoenixhomes.ca/phoenixNe...ber28-2005.pdf

I quite liked that proposal.

cityguy · #6 Posted **Feb 12, 2009, 2:14 PM**

I live on Preston,these towers rise up quite close to my house.

harls · #7 Posted **Feb 12, 2009, 2:52 PM**

The views would be phenomenal....

osirisboy · #8 Posted **Feb 12, 2009, 4:40 PM**

what are the chances of this thing actually getting built at 31 stories? did they make it taller so they have room to negotiate with the city on height?

cityguy · #9 Posted **Feb 12, 2009, 6:56 PM**

^that's what I'm thinking.

Beatrix · #10 Posted **Feb 12, 2009, 7:00 PM**

Well, the elevation at Bayview is substantially lower than that of the CBD. I don't think it would obstruct any views of Parliament....

highdensitysprawl · #11 Posted **Feb 12, 2009, 7:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by osirisboy

what are the chances of this thing actually getting built at 31 stories? did they make it taller so they have room to negotiate with the city on height?

Happens all the time...it is rare that the public or councillors ask the developer to increase the height/density. City Planners do, but I've never known the public or the elected officials.

Its called the art of the negotiation.

waterloowarrior · #12 Posted **Mar 4, 2009, 4:10 AM**

application page (site plan)

To construct 2- 31 storey apartment buildings. + 2 storeys of mechanical equipment and 3-4 storeys of office building.

Deez · #13 Posted **Mar 4, 2009, 5:02 AM**

bahaha.

This thing is an absolute abomination of urbanism...some of which is the City's fault and some the developer's.

First of all...why on earth are the property lines set so frigging far back from Scott (Albert?)? This development is steps from the CBD yet the setbacks are similar to new single family home subdivisions in Avalon. And what abuts the property line? A surface lot? At the intersection of what could be an N-S-E-W transit transfer location? Give me a break.

cityguy · #14 Posted **Mar 4, 2009, 12:29 PM**

I guess you would have too see the site,the property lines are set far back because of steep terrain.

eemy · #15 Posted **Mar 4, 2009, 1:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by cityguy

I guess you would have too see the site,the property lines are set far back because of steep terrain.

Usually they would just zone it Hazard or something similar to prevent development on that part of the land (at least where I work). Obviously the road ROW is particularly wide along Scott Street/Wellington in that area. I'd be curious to find out why.

It seems a little bit premature to begin developing Bayview. There should really be a more comprehensive plan for the area before development should proceed.

harls · #16 Posted **Mar 4, 2009, 2:31 PM**

You can see the hatch marks along Scott street on the left hand side, but that's the only place where steep terrain is shown.

the drawing makes me think of Place Champlain in Hull with its parking lot along Taché.. it has a similar type of drop-off from the street.

TransitZilla · #17 Posted **Mar 4, 2009, 4:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Deez

First of all...why on earth are the property lines set so frigging far back from Scott (Albert?)? This development is steps from the CBD yet the setbacks are similar to new single family home subdivisions in Avalon. And what abuts the property line? A surface lot? At the intersection of what could be an N-S-E-W transit transfer location? Give me a break.

You can see from the site plan that this site is criss-crossed with sewer easements. If the buildings were brought any closer to Scott/Albert, they would be encroaching on the easement.

I don't think there's any other alternative in this case.

waterloowarrior · #18 Posted **Mar 4, 2009, 5:01 PM**

The residential buildings have about 50% more resident parking spaces than required (although based on the numbers it is probably all underground and visitors is above ground)

Radster · #19 Posted **Mar 4, 2009, 8:07 PM**

The first thing that came to my mind when I saw this plan was the grouping of all the Alta Vista apartments and condos (in the vicinity of the Canada Post depot). I agree, this is a joke.

Deez · #20 Posted **Mar 5, 2009, 12:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by bradnixon

You can see from the site plan that this site is criss-crossed with sewer easements. If the buildings were brought any closer to Scott/Albert, they would be encroaching on the easement.

I don't think there's any other alternative in this case.

I guess that shows how much I know about reading site plans.

Would these sewers predate the current Scott St. alignment? I wonder if there are plans to move them...