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...and noticed the entryway



What we have here is a remnant of the original building.
Good eye KevinW!
It's really too bad this particular building wasn't kept in pristine condition.

I also revisited HossC's excellent Schulman post on Milliron's

Hoss included this photograph of the Terrace Restaurant which looked out on the roof-top parking lot.



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Here's a 2nd, more expansive, view of the Terrace Restaurant.


juliusschulman.org

The lighting situation on the right is pretty impressive [and remember, this is 1949!]

In 1947, at the time that J. W. Milliron commissioned the architectural firm of Guren and Krummeck to design his first branch of Milliron’s department Store,
he noted that “Treatment of this suburban location should be one of complete Suburnanity”. Located at 8379 South Sepulveda Blvd. in the city of Westchester,
the design was considered a “Modernist Work of Art”.

hmmm...I don't believe I've ever heard the word "Suburnanity" before.



update:

If you google "Suburnanity", a bunch more Schulman photographs show up. Perhaps there are some we haven't seen on nla.


like this one

juliusschulman.org

Look at the 1940s print on the curtains....so cool! ( they're stylized leaves....odinthor?)

Hoss, do you know if Mr. Schulman took any color photographs of Milliron's Terrace Restaurant? I'd love to know the color motif.
Whoa, I just noticed those striped chairs. I'm guessing the motif was Green and a Cream color

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My mother, aunt, and uncle visited L.A. some time in--if I'm not mistaken--the 1930s.

24th and Juliet

ODINTHOR Collection

Great looking group. (& your Mom is cute as a button)

Is that a thin wire running up that short 'pillar' (for lack of a better word) over on the right----->
___



OK, I just zoomed in....I think it's a crack.


detail / (crack is whack)
_____





Oh, and here's the neighboring house across 24th St. facing Juliet.


GSV

Note the interesting corner bay-windows on the second floor

You can see them in this odinthor pic as well.


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It's too bad that massive palm is gone.
-I just noticed the interesting looking tree next to the house is gone as well. What kind of tree is that? (it looks like something you'd find on the Sinai Peninsula)

(and remind me again, who's the good looking dude in the glasses?)

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I'll end tonight's blogging with an ugly 'mystery' location.

This is another slide taken in Santa Monica in the 1980s.


EBAY

Any guesses?

(oh..and thanks for locating the mystery street-corner FROM last night Hoss.
Do you think that clock on the roof was an original feature that they reproduced...
or just something they added out of the blue?

So many mysteries so little time.

Goodnight noirishers
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More Downtown Westchester

Rolling Hills Herald, October 22, 1948:





CDNC


May 2017, SE corner of 87th Street and Sepulveda Eastway; the Mademoiselle building is now the Triangle Cleaners:



GSV
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24th and Juliet

ODINTHOR Collection

Great looking group. (& your Mom is cute as a button)

Is that a thin wire running up that short 'pillar' (for lack of a better word) over on the right----->
___



OK, I just zoomed in....I think it's a crack.


detail / (crack is whack)
_____





Oh, and here's the neighboring house across 24th St. facing Juliet.


GSV

Note the interesting corner bay-windows on the second floor

You can see them in this odinthor pic as well.


ODINTHOR Collection

It's too bad that massive palm is gone.
-I just noticed the interesting looking tree next to the house is gone as well. What kind of tree is that? (it looks like something you'd find on the Sinai Peninsula)

(and remind me again, who's the good looking dude in the glasses?)

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The dude? Who's that babe in the stylish hat?
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I also found that the Crescent Bay Yacht Club was just south of the Gables Beach Club:

_LINK

Why is is so easy to find pictures of the Gables Beach Club, but perfectly impossible to find even a single photo of the Crescent Bay Yacht Club???

What a great callout graphic you made!

Your 1926 article mentions "the coming breakwater project." The only breakwater for yachts around that area and
time that I can think of was on the north side of the Santa Monica Pier, and from what I've read it was built in 1934.
Did the Crescent Bay YC exist until then? Was there another breakwater used by yachts that I've forgotten about?
Maybe the name of the club was changed before 1934 because the members had no place to anchor their yachts?
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24th and Juliet

ODINTHOR Collection

Great looking group. (& your Mom is cute as a button)
Thanks! That would have gotten an appreciative smile from her...

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Is that a thin wire running up that short 'pillar' (for lack of a better word) over on the right----->
___



OK, I just zoomed in....I think it's a crack.
Either that, or the electrician had had a few too many for lunch that day (hic) . . .

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detail / (crack is whack)
_____





Oh, and here's the neighboring house across 24th St. facing Juliet.


GSV

Note the interesting corner bay-windows on the second floor

You can see them in this odinthor pic as well.


ODINTHOR Collection

It's too bad that massive palm is gone.
Absolutely. It was a pretty good size for that kind of palm (Phoenix canariensis) in the 1930s. They're slow-growing, and if memory serves, they were introduced into California in the 1870s (I wasn't actually there in the 1870s. I was visiting a friend overseas). So either it managed to get planted there quite early after introduction (why there?), or someone paid a lot of denaro to have an old one moved, or for some reason the tree was very happy and grew unusually quickly.

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-I just noticed the interesting looking tree next to the house is gone as well. What kind of tree is that? (it looks like something you'd find on the Sinai Peninsula)
Well done, e_r--you're thinking Acacia. Dagnabit, though, I can't get a good enough look at its leaves etc. to give a more specific answer.[/quote]

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(and remind me again, who's the good looking dude in the glasses?)
You're making my family very happy: That's my Uncle Lloyd. So you see three of five siblings: My mother, aunt, and uncle. My other two uncles were too young to be traveling out to wicked So Cal, and were back on the farm in Nebraska. Likely further pix from this trip sent back home are scattered among all my cousins.
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The dude? Who's that babe in the stylish hat?
The touch of vanity that runs in my family is having a good day today... My mother enjoyed turning heads. And so do I.
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[...] Look at the 1940s print on the curtains....so cool! ( they're stylized leaves....odinthor?) [...]
I agree, e_r: Yes, very cool, and I think they'd look contemporary and "in" these days. I'm sure I've seen that pattern before...so it must be good . . . If they're based on anything real, it might be tobacco leaves.

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Forgive me if this is a stupid question - I searched this thread and read five pages of search results for “negro”, and one page of search results for, um… “n-word”… and I didn’t find an answer.

I understand that the tallest pole, almost dead-center in the photo, is some kind of early lighting fixture…


http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single.../id/3704/rec/1

…but I couldn’t find any answer to what these two, shorter poles are:



Obviously, they look like telephone poles, but if there are any wires running between them I can’t make them out. Additionally, one has five crossbeams, while the other has only four, which seems odd.

The Huntington says that the photo was taken in 1882.

This website says:


Assuming that the photo is correctly dated, are these the first telephone poles in Los Angeles? And if not, what the devil are they?
My husband was a lineman and says they are telegraph poles
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What a great callout graphic you made!

Your 1926 article mentions "the coming breakwater project." The only breakwater for yachts around that area and
time that I can think of was on the north side of the Santa Monica Pier, and from what I've read it was built in 1934.
Did the Crescent Bay YC exist until then? Was there another breakwater used by yachts that I've forgotten about?
Maybe the name of the club was changed before 1934 because the members had no place to anchor their yachts?
Glad you like the graphic, Flyingwedge!

Sadly, I know nothing about the breakwater situation, but the latest reference to the Crescent Bay Yacht Club that I could find appears in the Evening Outlook newspaper dated March 23, 1931. LINK

There may be later references, but heck if I can be sure - that Santa Monica Public Library archive is an absolute nightmare to navigate through!

(Only un-hide this next section if you want to see me ranting like a madman about how crummy the SMPL website is!)




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My husband was a lineman and says they are telegraph poles
Interesting, sadykadie2! Your husband my well be right - a telegraph would certainly seem to be more likely to appear in 1882 than a telephone line.
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[QUOTE=Scott Charles;8093063]Thanks, ER - I’m really glad you like the photo!

I’m no expert sleuth like the rest of you folks here, but after I posted that photo the other day, I decided to try my best to find out ANYTHING about the Crescent Bay Yacht Club (I mean, Google literally has NOTHING on it).

While you were working on the yacht club, I saw a small column at the top of the page which mentioned an aviator, Leo Nomis, who had been found wandering in Death Valley. Since backstories on people is what I do, I checked on him and found that he was born in Iowa in 1889, served as a pilot in WWI and then stayed in the Los Angeles area after the war. His obituary lists him as a movie stunt pilot and in a 1921 directory he is listed as a "photoplayer". There is a fairly impressive list of movies he worked on.

More research shows that he was a flying instructor for Pancho Barnes among others. He was a charter member of Barnes' Stunt Pilots Union.

He is found at Clover Field (Santa Monica) in 1928 and a residence listed for him in 1930 is 6213 Airy Way. This is in the Hollywood Hills. That house appears to be still there, although large amounts of shrubbery conceal it from the street.
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Forgive me if this is a stupid question - I searched this thread and read five pages of search results for “negro”, and one page of search results for, um… “n-word”… and I didn’t find an answer.

I understand that the tallest pole, almost dead-center in the photo, is some kind of early lighting fixture…


http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single.../id/3704/rec/1

…but I couldn’t find any answer to what these two, shorter poles are:



Obviously, they look like telephone poles, but if there are any wires running between them I can’t make them out. Additionally, one has five crossbeams, while the other has only four, which seems odd.

The Huntington says that the photo was taken in 1882.

This website says:


Assuming that the photo is correctly dated, are these the first telephone poles in Los Angeles? And if not, what the devil are they?
Coincidentally, as I work on a project that, um, I'm working on, I just ran across in my notes the following description of an 1855 property on Calle de los Negros, and thought it might be of interest to NLA:

July 7, 1855, published (Los Angeles Star): “A Desirable House for sale. The undersigned offers for sale his large and commodious House situated on the Calle de los Negros. Fronting on the street is a large saloon with a good bar and an excellent Billiard Table, and is considered one of the best stands in this city; adjoining is another large room furnished with counter, shelves and other fixtures, proper or convenient for a Store or Tavern all in good condition, and in good repair. In the interior is three sleeping rooms and a saloon, all floored with lumber; also a kitchen and a cellar and a fine corridor on the inside. The lot extends to Alameda street and has a zanja of water constantly running through the premises. Purchasers wishing to make a bargain will please call on the undersigned, where they can see the premises and learn its price. The sale to be in all cases for cash. Jose Vicente Guerrero.”

If it's the same lot which he had three years later, and which was to be auctioned by the Sheriff or non-payment of taxes, the starting bid for it for the auction was to be $2500 (Los Angeles Star, March 6, 1858). I should add that many of these to-be-auctioned properties were redeemed by their owners before they went under the hammer.
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Hoss, do you know if Mr. Schulman took any color photographs of Milliron's Terrace Restaurant? I'd love to know the color motif.
Whoa, I just noticed those striped chairs. I'm guessing the motif was Green and a Cream color
I don't remember finding any color Shulman images of Milliron's. If there are color images, and I leave them out, I normally mention it.

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(oh..and thanks for locating the mystery street-corner FROM last night Hoss.
Do you think that clock on the roof was an original feature that they reproduced...
or just something they added out of the blue?
I've looked through dozens of aerial photos of the area around 101 Broadway to try and figure out the provenance of the clock. I think I can see the building on a 1928 aerial at UCSB, and there's no sign of the clock. As far as I can tell, the clock was added sometime in the '90s as a new feature.

So far, I've had no luck finding last night's mystery location .
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Vehicle license plates, Santa Monica?

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I'll end tonight's blogging with an ugly 'mystery' location.

This is another slide taken in Santa Monica in the 1980s.


EBAY

Any guesses?

(oh..and thanks for locating the mystery street-corner FROM last night Hoss.
Do you think that clock on the roof was an original feature that they reproduced...
or just something they added out of the blue?

So many mysteries so little time.

Goodnight noirishers
E R - Just an observation, the vehicle license plates in the above mystery photo appear to have a light green background with white letters & numbers. Plates are possibly Baja California border zone issue, circa 1984-1985.

Plate reference source: www.worldlicenseplates.com >>> Mexico, Baja California, Border Zone Passenger/Private

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