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Dac150 · #**461** Posted **Mar 21, 2007, 1:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Lecom

Looks eerily familiar

Look how different the surrounding area is though compared to now. It's funny how time has changed.

Daquan13 · #**462** Posted **Mar 21, 2007, 1:26 AM**

Yeah, you can see the North Tower being started, but as the photo indicates, the South Tower was not yet started.

In another photo, 7 WTC wasn't built yet, but there was a substation there in the shape of it upon which Silverstein built the tower.

Note how the remains of Greenwich Street ran throuh the area before the construction began.

Also, upon visiting Tishman's website, I found out that they built the Twins.

kznyc2k · #**463** Posted **Mar 21, 2007, 5:42 AM**

Lecom, thank you for posting that picture. I've never seen the towers at that stage before from such a telling angle. What year is that -- '67-68ish?

Intersting to see one of the two Hudson Terminal buildings is still standing.

NYguy · #**464** Posted **Mar 21, 2007, 12:05 PM**

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Beekman would appear just to the left of 7 WTC, at about the same height, no?

Now that I look at it closer, Beekman would probably appear between towers 2 and 3 in that rendering. At 876 ft, it'd be taller than Chase, but set back about the same distance. Other than that, it would be behind tower 2.

Daquan13 · #**465** Posted **Mar 21, 2007, 1:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by kznyc2k

Lecom, thank you for posting that picture. I've never seen the towers at that stage before from such a telling angle. What year is that -- '67-68ish?

Intersting to see one of the two Hudson Terminal buildings is still standing.

Probably around that time, since the bathtub had to be built first.

Now I see the outline of the tub area where the Twins were built, while past that area, no tub walls were put in.

2-TOWERS · #**466** Posted **Mar 21, 2007, 2:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dac150

Look how different the surrounding area is though compared to now. It's funny how time has changed.

the good ol' days

Kent76 · #**467** Posted **Mar 21, 2007, 4:42 PM**

On wikipedia I read that the Freedom tower will have 108 ( 87 for occupancy ) floors and that will there be an obs deck at 1362 feet? Is it true?

RockMont · #**468** Posted **Mar 21, 2007, 5:26 PM**

I think it will be equal to that of a 108 story building, with the foundation, and some area on top being non-floors, the foundation being equal to the first 15 and some utility floors between the observation deck and the top business floor. Kind of like the Empire State Buildings "floors" 86 t0 102 are between the rooftop and the top of the spire, which has a little compartment inside and is considered the 102nd floor.

NYguy · #**469** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 12:03 PM**

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the Empire State Buildings "floors" 86 t0 102 are between the rooftop and the top of the spire, which has a little compartment inside and is considered the 102nd floor.

The Empire State's 102nd floor is currently the city's highest observation deck. The more popular deck (on the 86th) is the city's highest outdoor observation deck...(btw, there are a few regular floors above the 86th)

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86th Floor Observatory:
The 86th floor Observatory, 1,050 feet (320 meters), reached by high speed, automatic elevators, has both a glass-enclosed area, which is heated in winter and cooled in summer, and spacious outdoor promenades on all four sides of the Building. High powered binoculars are available on the promenades for the convenience of visitors at a minimal cost. Souvenir counters are also located in the 86th floor observatory. The 86th floor observatory is handicap accessible.

102nd Floor Observatory:
The 102nd floor Observatory has reopened as of November 1, 2005.
Admission tickets are only sold at the Observatory ticket office, located on the 2nd floor of the building, at a cost of $15.00 in addition to regular admission tickets.

Observatory Hours:
Open daily 365 days a year.
8:00am to 2:00am, 7 days a week. Last elevators go up at 1:15am.

from the 102nd...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/starber...7594327002396/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/starfis...n/photostream/

Daquan13 · #**470** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 1:48 PM**

I think that's highway robbery for them to want to friggen charge an additional $15.00 just to go up into that 102nd floor shoebox!!

I was told or heard that only 10 or 12 people can fit in there at one given time.

2-TOWERS · #**471** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 1:52 PM**

the twins were a 110 floors, and and 92 feet shorter , then the sears, which also has 110 floors, and BD is at level 116 and is only at the 103 floor of the sears right now, interesting how the floor count is on some buildings

2-TOWERS · #**472** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 1:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Daquan13

I think that's highway robbery for them to want to friggen charge an additional $15.00 just to go up into that 102nd floor shoebox!!

I was told or heard that only 10 or 12 people can fit in there at one given time.

yes it is a shoebox , as i myself , was lucky enough to go up there alot of times, at the price of addmission, now it will cost about 30.00 to see both decks, which also includes a movie, and last i seen the movie they still included the twins, i just hope F/T will have the outdoor deck, like 2 wtc, that was breathtaken.

Daquan13 · #**473** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 2:04 PM**

In the beginning, it was said that the Freedom Tower would have 2 obs decks.

Now they're only mentioning one. And it is my belief that because of the rotating support ring for the spire, they probably won't put a 2nd obs deck there.

DUBAI2015 · #**474** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 3:04 PM**

That little white ring is supposed to rotate?

CGII · #**475** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 3:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by 2-TOWERS

the twins were a 110 floors, and and 92 feet shorter , then the sears, which also has 110 floors, and BD is at level 116 and is only at the 103 floor of the sears right now, interesting how the floor count is on some buildings

Even more interesting was that the WTC observation decks were higherthan Sears'.

NYguy · #**476** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 7:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Daquan13

I think that's highway robbery for them to want to friggen charge an additional $15.00 just to go up into that 102nd floor shoebox!!

I was told or heard that only 10 or 12 people can fit in there at one given time.

If people want to get up there, they'll spend the extra $15. If the demand is too high, it'll lead to closing again. As you've just noted, it's a very limited space.

NYguy · #**477** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Daquan13

In the beginning, it was said that the Freedom Tower would have 2 obs decks.

Now they're only mentioning one. And it is my belief that because of the rotating support ring for the spire, they probably won't put a 2nd obs deck there.

There'll be no outdoor deck/rotating ring at the Freedom Tower. Previous plans called for an outdoor deck at 1,362 ft, but that was pulled back.

NYguy · #**478** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 7:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

from the 102nd...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/starber...7594327002396/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/starfis...n/photostream/

A little more on the mystery floors...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tocci/3...7594419553875/

Daquan13 · #**479** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 10:27 PM**

You'd think that after all this time, they'd put a restaurant up there somewhere between the 86th and 102nd floors, but I guess that won't happen.

CGII · #**480** Posted **Mar 22, 2007, 11:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Daquan13

You'd think that after all this time, they'd put a restaurant up there somewhere between the 86th and 102nd floors, but I guess that won't happen.

There's no room.