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With vacant lots becoming luxury condos across the city in the blink of an eye, officials are looking up - and to some unlikely places - to build affordable apartments.
What a great idea!

As we all know, there are plenty of lowrises around that could be converted to high rise skyscrapers.

Just because someone doesn't earn as much as a Wall St. Analyst does not mean they don't deserve to live in the sky.
     
     
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Just because someone doesn't earn as much as a Wall St. Analyst does not mean they don't deserve to live in the sky.
Amen.

And with the City so short on space, what better place to go than up!
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Amen.

And with the City so short on space, what better place to go than up!

But... but... I thought there was a GLUT of square footage in the City, and the WTC should never have been rebuilt on such a huge scale...

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Isn't it funny how overnight there is suddenly a shortage of housing AND office space in NYC?
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2006, 5:36 PM
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Isn't it funny how overnight there is suddenly a shortage of housing AND office space in NYC?
There has always been a shortage of housing in NY, and the office shortage was predictable. Millions of square ft lost on 9/11, added to conversions, and little or no new major office construction equals shortage!

Enter: the WTC and the West Side.
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is it approved, any renderings.
     
     
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The developer, the World-Wide Group, has made an agreement with the city for a 75-year lease of a 1.5-acre site on East 57th Street and Second Avenue, and it will make payments to the city worth $325 million. The developer will raze the two existing schools on the site, P.S. 59 and the High School of Art and Design, build two new schools that will accommodate more students, and develop a 59-story apartment tower and a long, four-story band of retail stores.

The city will issue about $130 million worth of bonds to build the schools through its educational construction fund, but the debt will be paid back with the developer's payments. The profit from selling the development rights is so great, according to city officials, that it will pay for capital improvements of other city schools around the five boroughs.


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Old Posted Mar 19, 2007, 11:51 AM
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2nd Ave. Eyed by Developers as Luxury Lane

By ELIOT BROWN
March 19, 2007

Two new planned condominium towers suggest developers seem to be warming to Second Avenue on the Upper East Side — long viewed as a distant cousin to nearby Park and Fifth avenues, if even related at all — as a spot for luxury residential apartments. The developers of the two buildings, both glass towers rising 18 and 30 stories, are trying to capture some of the Westchester crowd — families with pockets that are deep but not bottomless, and want addresses less expensive than those closer to Central Park.

The 30-story tower, to be built by the World-Wide Group by late 2008 on the corner of Second Avenue and 74th Street, is planning prices between $2.5 million and $7 million for units of up to five bedrooms. The building's 87 units tend toward the spacious — three-bedrooms are just shy of 2,000 square feet, while the five-bedroom units are planned to be 3,400 square feet in size. "We believe this will be a value buy for New York families," an executive vice president at World-Wide, David Lowenfeld, said. Families are the target audience, Mr. Lowenfeld said, as he believes there is a pent-up demand for this price range on the Upper East Side. In addition to the generous square footage of the apartments, the building would contain amenities such as a "cruising wall," a miniature climbing wall located inside of a 2,400 square foot space aimed at children of various ages.

The 18-story building, currently a skeleton of concrete pillars on the southeast corner of Second Ave and 79th Street, is planning 40 units to be priced between $1.4 million and $4.5 million. Few details have been released about that building, being built by developer Meyer Chetrit, will also cater to the family crowd, a senior associate with the Corcoran Group, the marketer for the building, Beth Benalloul, said. "There's definitely a need for these high end buildings on the Upper East Side — I can tell you that," Ms. Benalloul said. Second Avenue has hardly been a stranger to high-rises over the years – numerous residential towers more than 30 stories line the street near the two planned buildings – though the move to the higher-end residential comes as in part as a result of rising land prices and a lack of developable sites further towards Central Park.

Development on the Upper East Side is being squeezed to the east for reasons of availability, the developer of the 30-story tower, Mr. Lowenfeld said. Property on Park Avenue rarely comes up for sale, he said, let alone the multiple adjacent lots that developers traditionally need in order to piece together space for a new high-rise. In addition, Second Avenue, unlike much of the East Side closer to Central Park, is not part of a historic district, so new construction there does not have to win the approval of the city's Landmarks Preservation Commission.

The recent interest in Second Avenue follows two recent projects by Mr. Lowenfeld further south on the avenue. On 57th Street, World-Wide is planning to build a 59-story tower on top of a school, and on Second Avenue and 55th Street, the company built a 32-story condo tower.

While a spike in interest along Second Avenue coincides with an increase in action from the MTA related to building a Second Avenue subway line, analysts say there has been no noticeable hike in values in anticipation of the line. "We'll believe it when we see it," a real estate appraiser, Ronald Gold, said. "We've been talking about it for 30 years." Subway or no subway, Second Avenue in the Upper East Side has become far more desirable in recent years, Mr. Gold said. "Before 1998, it was certainly a second-class neighborhood," he said. "There was a huge dividing line on the west side (of Second Avenue), primarily because of access to the Lexington avenue subway line. "Where is it now, because of this feeding frenzy over the last six years, everything's up for grabs."

The neighborhood is already known as one of the city's most desirable for families, with a concentration of private and public schools and family-oriented retail such as children's clothing stores. Manhattan's Community District 8 had one of the greatest increases in the population of families with children between 1990 and 2000 in the borough, increasing 5.5%, according to Census data. The district, which runs from 59th Street to 96th Street, is also the second most affluent in the city, with an average median household income of more than $74,000 in 1999. Much of that wealth is concentrated closer to the park, between Fifth and Lexington Avenues, although there are few bargains east of Lexington, where new condo developments are crowding out former walk-up rental apartment buildings. "It's getting unaffordable for the average person," a resident of the Upper East Side for six years who runs a Pilates exercise studio, Shara Arntosky, said. "These luxury buildings are going up and these cute little four-stories are coming down."
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GLASSY FUTURE A condo-rental tower is planned above two East 57th Street schools.


By C. J. HUGHES
Published: December 16, 2007

THE thought of shrieks from playgrounds during recess may till now have distanced developers from choosing sites near schools. But with buildable city lots in such short supply, they now appear willing to reconsider.

Two Manhattan buildings are to rise close enough to schools that they will almost seem part of campus: the Azure, at 33 East 91st Street, and a condo-rental at 250 East 57th Street.

And if the schools and apartments end up looking similar, it’s because the same developers are to build both, under deals hammered out with city’s Educational Construction Fund, a division of the Department of Education.

Created in 1967 but dormant for some time, the fund works to ease overcrowding in schools by leasing unused air rights over low-slung buildings, in exchange for new classrooms.

In the past 40 years, the fund has added 18,000 school seats, said Jamie Smarr, its director, adding that the two new projects alone will create 2,700. “We’re getting $300 million of new construction out of this,” he said, “and none of it is going on the city’s books.”

The Azure, which broke ground in September, will be a “co-op with condo rules,” which means subletters won’t require board approval, said John Caiazzo, a vice president of the DeMatteis Organizations, based in Elmont on Long Island. It is a developer of the 32-story tower, along with the Mattone Group of College Point, Queens.

The Azure’s L-shaped lot had been home to Public School 151, which closed in 2000. The new structure, with 80,000 square feet across five floors, will serve Middle School 114, whose 350 students are now shoehorned into a nearby elementary school. It is set to open in September 2009, Mr. Caiazzo said.

The Azure’s 127 units will range from 600-square-foot studios to 1,970-square-foot three bedrooms, he added. Priced from $713,000 to $3.7 million, the units went on sale in October, though “only a few contracts have gone out.”

Mr. Caiazzo played down concerns about noise; the school’s 40-foot-wide recreation area will be away from apartments, he said.

In fact, proximity might be a plus. “We’ve gotten quite a few inquiries about people moving here, so their kids could attend that school,” he said.

The high-rise at 250 East 57th Street, as designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, is an angular 59-story glass tower over a retail base. Its offering plan still requires state approval.

But David Lowenfeld, a principal with World-Wide Group, its Manhattan-based developer, envisions a total of 320 units, from studios to three-bedrooms. Sixty percent will be condos, priced at $1,500 a square foot, he said.

The 1.5-acre site now houses P.S. 59 and the High School of Art and Design, which faces Second Avenue. For the 2011 school year, the schools will have roomier new quarters. The elementary will triple in size, and the high school will grow 40 percent, Mr. Smarr said.

First, though, World-Wide Group must build P.S. 59 a temporary facility; It is currently under construction on East 63rd Street.

But what about noise from P.S. 59’s future rooftop playground? “This is the middle of New York,” Mr. Lowenfeld said. “People are used to noise.”

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This design looks promising, but I'd like to see some other angles before passing judgment on it. In particular I'd like to see the other side where the building dramatically narrows near the top. From this angle, it looks like the top is precariously balanced on top of the rest of the tower.
     
     
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Meh...this is not going to fit in well, I can just see it.
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the top floor is like a teeter-totter!
     
     
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Just because someone doesn't earn as much as a Wall St. Analyst does not mean they don't deserve to live in the sky.
Really? Since when was this the USSR?

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need - right?
     
     
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This looks so promising, but yeah need to see more renderings.
     
     
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Really? Since when was this the USSR?

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need - right?
Haven't you ever stumbled into the so-called Political Forum?
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Interesting design. I like it. Wasn't expecting anything much for this tower. My guess is around 600 ft.
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What a stupid looking tower.

But of course, before I tear it apart verbally any further, I must see more renderings.
     
     
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I'm VERY dubious the tower will be as shown - I mean, it looks too thin at that choke point to even allow an elevator thru, nevermind being structurally sound...
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I'm VERY dubious the tower will be as shown - I mean, it looks too thin at that choke point to even allow an elevator thru, nevermind being structurally sound...
SOM has much experience with designing and building towers. I doubt they would propose something that couldn't be built.

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The high-rise at 250 East 57th Street, as designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, is an angular 59-story glass tower over a retail base.
What you're missing from that rendering is the other side of the "twist".
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